They fly him around the country, but the media outfit he's working for didn't bother to invest in media training for their homicidal poster boy?

So much for standing your ground.

Fuck yeah, make that piece of shit feel bad. Pure uncut Colombian schadenfreude.

“I don’t know anything about that,”

This seems to be the canned response to all "uncomfortable" topics.

It seems that right-wing "debates" are not about arguing a point or another, but bringing up the "right" talking points, and backing out the wrong ones.

"We're gonna have a little bit of a dialogue of what racist things that Charlie Kirk said."

"I don't know anything about that,"

Not much of a dialogue lol

I mean that seems fair that he wouldn't comment on something he doesn't know about

Yea, I bet he wished he could have illegally crossed state lines with a firearm he wasn't legally allowed to have again to protect himself from these organized students

I don't think he gets many other job offers

I think the debate is nuanced so I'm not trying to say it's absolutely equatable, I'm more trying to feel out your actual position.

If a woman was being abused by her husband, stood up to him and killed him in self defense...if domestic abuse/survivor groups invited her to speak, would it be also repulsive?

Rittenhouse was invited to speak at Wednesday's event by the university's Turning Point USA (TPUSA) chapter. Founded in 2012, the non-profit promotes conservative politics at schools and college campuses.

Our gun culture is so nuts that it normalizes shit like this.

When you look at it this way, it is utterly unsurprising that we have so many mass shootings.

He got away with it so he's automatically a power fantasy for Cons.

Because having someone else buy a gun for you that you can’t legally buy, traveling to a confrontational hotspot with your guns, failing to leave a situation that was escalating, and that choice leading to one shooting a mentally ill bipolar person is perfectly legal. And the right wing absolutely wants to make sure everyone knows that. So he gets to be trotted out for any occasion where they need a “famous” person who chose to exercise their right to self-defense, despite making every effort to place themselves in a situation where it might be necessary.

But that’s not his fault.

Because of TP USA.

I feel now is a good time to pimp our community, !toiletpaperusa@lemmy.world

Because he’s famous for racist murder.

Yeah our country isn’t doing great. Send ethics

Turning Point USA invited him, not the University.

1. He's not famous for murder.
2. The university didn't invite him to talk, it was just the venue.

Because the actual story fits blearily enough well with republican's "good guy with a gun" mythos. Trigger Warning: Violence, Death, and Bodily Injury.

If I'm wrong, please correct me and cite your sources.

a guy who is famous for murder

Correction: Famously accused of murder and acquitted of all charges despite rigorous cross examination and ever increasingly difficult hurdles to claiming self defence... such as assuming provocation incited the first attacker. Also despite intense political pressure from then and current POTUS Joseph Biden, who was vocally in favor of murder charges until after the not-guilty verdict was delivered.

His first attacker, Joseph Rosenbaum (deceased): "The man with a toothbrush." A belligerent 36 year old bare chested man. Chasing a 17 year old with a firearm, who was running away. A convicted child molester. At the time being tried for assault and out on bail. Shot at close range.

His second attacker, Anthony Huber (deceased): An avid skater, chasing down a presumed murderer fleeing in the direction of the police. Assailed the accused in the shoulder, neck, and head with a skateboard and grappled over the rifle. Shot at close range.

Third, Gaige Grosskreutz the star witness of the trial: a trained paramedic who chased the presumed murderer alongside Anthony Huber. Confronted the 17 year old, who had immediately prior, shot Anthony Huber while wrestling on the ground. Drew his pistol and immediately lost his right bicep upon pointing his weapon at the accused.

The 17 year old, Kyle Rittenhouse, then approached officers with his hands above his head, and was told to get out of the road. Fears of a mass shooter caused the crowds to disperse.

Please stop calling the idiot a murderer. He was acquitted, and the people who attacked him are none too heroic after looking at their part in the events, nor after seeing their criminal records.

I'm not defending him. But he was acquitted, so he's not famous for murder. A bunch of people believe that he genuinely acted in legitimate self defense, and thus he is a symbol of the correct use of arms for self defense and a victim of a system that tried to jail him for doing so.

Pretty sure he does discriminate

Don't drop any acorns and cut all trees in the surrounding area

I mean, based on history so long as you don't chase him down and try to take his gun, knock him to the ground and move to bludgeon him, or try a false surrender with intent to shoot him you're probably fine.

But seriously, if you think he just started shooting at the drop of a hat, watch the trial footage.

He's a dumbass kid who should never have gone to the protest in the first place (but had every legal right to be where he was) turned right wing grifter because no one else will have him, but all three of his shootings definitely fall under self defense.

I'll take my downvotes now for not expressing views that contradict trial evidence now, thanks.

I had to look up that hand gesture because I'd never heard of it, and finding out what is pissed me off. Are they fucking serious? The O-K hand gesture??

It's so evil and rotten to try to corrupt such a common, useful, and benign hand gesture and to try to turn that into a symbol of hate. Absolutely enraging

If Rittenhouse hadn't even murdered or physically harmed anyone, I'd still say he's worth society's most energetic condemnation on his views alone.

“I think it’s funny how everyone’s saying I got booted off stage, when in reality, we just did a hard cutoff time and just happened to leave at that time…”

Press (X) to doubt

Yeah, it is wild how the anti-BLM types will quote the supposed "the country's cities were burned to the ground" (really, when was this again?) and some ginned-up numbers of total dollars of damages done, usually with great amount of hand-wringing about damage done to businesses.

They tip their hands without even realizing it, I think.

Property over people. It's almost cliche at this point to bring it up but here's a reminder that police in the USA were created primarily to return escaped slaves to their owners, they were a tool of the wealthy and merchant class. It's protect property and serve capital above all else.

He was being beaten with a skateboard, wasn't he?

Remember kids, you can riot, burn, and loot... as long as it's "for a good cause."

Last I checked taking a gun to a place specifically to kill someone is murder, yup, even if our jurors decided they are not criminally liable , still a murderer, just not convicted.

He crossed state lines to hunt people, and now has a taste for human blood.

Your warning is legitimate.

Prison cells are pretty safe.

He forgot to bring his rifle.

Kyle Rittenhouse committed 37 murders!

Not true, the first guy he shot was armed with a plastic bag.

I agree what he did was self defence. I also agree that he absolutely should not have been there in the first place. But it seemed him being there wasn't that serious of a crime in the first place? (I know there was some illegality about him moving the weapon across state lines, but still)

He's a moron. Unfortunately it's not illegal to be a moron.

Ok I'll bite. Why was he there?

You judge a man you never met, about an event you didn't witness.

You judge him with such confidence. You clearly know something.

His odds of a political career are pretty good. Repubs love guys like this. Repubs don't want a functioning government, they want everyone they hate to be angry.