The consequences (of my actions) have been extreme

I really thought this was going to be a satire post about the Yemen bombing Signal chat group leak based off the reddit title.
- I was inspired to post this story in light of recent events.
  
  Thank you for your service.
- I don't blame you, thought the same and already seen a few today.
- There's a lot of overlap with this and the leak.
  Honestly I see correlation between this, the Trump Locker room talk, the Blizzard and Riot sexual harassment cases, etc.
- It's a good post though, relevant but not another post about the same damn thing lol
- i was waiting for the guy to come out as an us official as the punchline
- same
  edit: pawb.social user spotted

Thought at first that its a meme about the signal groupchat that was leaked currently and then read its discord and its 1 year old.

Don’t talk shit about people behind their back. It always has a way of getting out because it’s clearly how you feel when their is no filter in place.
- I used to talk shit people to their face and compliment them behind their back. Thought it was cool. Anyways, didn't work at the workplace.
  
  It's better to say ''Yes'' and fail then to say ''No'' and succeed. Presentation is everything in a workplace.

Still not sure whether OP is Pete Hegseth.

Wow this must be the biggest group text leak ever.
- I can hardly even imagine one that's worse
  
  👊 🇺🇸 🔥

Derek sounds like a real one. That poster lacks so much situational awareness they'd fall into an open manhole like in a cartoon.

If the contents of my friends' group chat got leaked... people would just think we're fucking idiots, not terrible people.
Good work, Derek. Be better, losers in that chat.
- I think that's obtuse, comedy has no limits: As long as you don't act upon uncomfortable / morally reprehensible ideas you joke about, you aren't any worse or better than if you had never joked about it. I would argue that exposing a bunch of people for what they joke about with no evidence that they've actually done something wrong is far worse than joking about offensive subjects. (one has zero negative affects, the other has many)
  (I must say I disagree completely with that guy sharing messages from his girlfriend- that piece is very weird and a total breach of trust)
  
  Keep in mind the source of this story. The author has every reason to describe the stuff on their group chat sound tame, so if it sounds bad, it's probably 3 times worse than that.
  
  (I must say I disagree completely with that guy sharing messages from his girlfriend- that piece is very weird and a total breach of trust)
  My impression from the original post was that kind of stuff was what drove most of the fallout. Leaked off color memes aren't going to ruin people's relationships, but leaked shit talk or breaches of someone else's privacy will.
  
  If the public got to hear first hand all the black humor that goes on in the EMS field, society might further collapse.
  
  Everyone on here is an insufferable twat.
- How do you know that?
  
  Because they're a fucking idiot, duh.
  
  Easy, by having an inflated ego and a holier than thou attitude! 👍
- derek is still a cunt though. If you join and find shit you don't like the first thing you should do is confront people. Either derek just likes causing people problems (and is a problematic individual) or he is not very bright and thinks that everything people say must be 100% true and serious.
  I would not ever want to be friends with derek, that's for sure.
  
  Derek is a decent person, so you don't have to worry about that.

- Every parent's "talk" with their kids should start with "Never say or post anything about yourself on the internet, in any capacity, that you wouldn't want literally everyone in your life knowing about. Assume everything you type, post or share will be seen by everyone."
  I would extend that to include even uploading things to private cloud servers and saving things to your own computer. You don't have to take these precautions, but then it's on you to deal with consequences of people seeing the things you want to keep private. Sure, there can be bad people who make extra effort to find and share your private things, but if you already covered your bases ahead of time by not saying things you don't want others to hear, not posting media you don't want others to see, you can make it almost impossible for people to cause you harm this way. Also, don't talk about war plans in group chats.
  edit: if you're one of the kinds of people who read this and feel a reaction of outrage or disappointment that you can't contain, this means you're sharing things you shouldn't and are now getting worried you won't be able to make yourself out to be a victim when it happens. Don't get mad at me, I didn't make these rules, you just never heard them before. Fix your shitty social life and shitty sense of humor.
  
  I have had this exact talk with my kids repeatedly and probably will again ''the internet is a PUBLIC place, if you wouldn't do or say things you wouldn't be comfortable doing in the quad at school or in the middle of Walmart, DON'T do it online."
- Depends on context. Maybe I'm not reading the OP right, but if it's in the context of "yo guys what do I say" it's different from "yo guys look how desperate she is lmao"
- If you're ever concerned that your private messages will get leaked, why send it? That seems like a you issue for trusting them.
  
  Sadly, people rather get in trouble and make themselves out to be a victim than decide to use some measure of self control and not spout every stupid thing that crosses their mind in their weird little shitty discord channel with their other shitty friends.
  Seriously, I have been around the internet since the beginning of it, and people make the same mistakes over and over. This is one of them, and one I've never had to deal with because I don't say shitty things to people, I don't make "off color" jokes and have no desire to, and you know what... somehow I am not lacking a social life, it's almost like being a shitty person doesn't have to be a substitute for having a personality, you can just learn to socialize like a big boy or big girl and not set yourself up for disaster later.
- Isn't that what Derek just did to him? Feels bad I guess ;D
- Yeah that's my line. Something someone told you in confidence is a shit thing to make fun of them for, forwarding it to friends is another level.
  Derek's lame but they were shit too
  
  Nah fuck that.
  If your comment was so bad that a person you both trust and respected was like, "WTF" to expose it, that's on you.
  The whole meToo movement is based on this. Just "locker room" talk to some, but deeply disgusting sexual harassment from a small group and behavior to the other 90%.
  
  confidence
  If this is supposed to be private, personal stuff, why then would you share it with either someone you don't know well, or share it in a public space where others can see it? "Confidential" material means it should only be seen by people you trust. This whole post is about someone they didn't know or trust coming into their space and sharing their shit. It's entirely on them for saying stupid shit on the internet and not being careful.
- I text my friends offensive shit too, but imo the only reason you can consider them funny is because it's the exact opposite of who i am. Like i don't even really swear irl. But shit like forwarding private messages or bullying real people is so disgusting to me. I often talk to girls from tinder, and they sometimes send me screenshots of people from tinder to make fun of them. Instant turn off and block.
  
  If you're sharing it privately, that's your true self, the version of you unfiltered and able to avoid the consequences of actually saying it.
  Not if, but when it gets exposed by a Derek, will people look at you differently?
  You just discovered something important about yourself.

I love how the government is now just assholes in a shitty group chat.

Derek is the fucking GOAT

Good guy Derek

If I had to explain some of my in-group chats, it would be complicated and awkward, but not life-destroying.
- I think my saved memes are 50/50 funny and concerning
  
  The thing is, on Lemmy these are pretty normal... but for my very conservative grandma who hardly understands what a lesbian is...
  
  You just concentrated 4 top tier shitposts into a single comment.
  
  Im pretty sure that pipeline meme is depicting my nibling.
  
  What’s the first one?
- Well.
  Depends on how fash the US turns for me
- Me and my buddy have the nuke thing going. Mutually assured destruction 😎
- just dont admit to them?

Ah yes, "cocksucker" as the first insult to come to mind, the sign of a good person
- Why is "cuntlicker" not also a common insult? #equalrights
  
  They should both be high compliments imo
- what about it?
  
  It implies that for a man, sucking cock (a legitimate sexual act for any gender) is an insult because that would make him gay. So Homophobic.

Leaking PMs between you and an ex is a dick move 😵

I would never feel bad about that, have you ever had girls show you their gcs? I'm traumatized
- Think woman project a bit about what men do, since ive never discussed womans bodies in a homie gc or seen ppl do it, sure some out there exist and its not rare but all the girls I know discuss everythink, like dick shape size, how long they last what kinks they have everything you thought was private

Shitposting is just pretending to be stupid/racist/shitty for laughs/attention, right? Pretty low form of humor, if you ask me (no one did), but I'm also guessing a lot of shitposters aren't just pretending.
I like a laugh as much as the next person, but we can't sit around going "Why are people in this country so fucking stupid/racist/shitty?" while simultaneously elevating "acting" stupid to some high form of humor. You see how that's counterproductive, right?
“Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. It is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that mental lying has produced in society. When a man has so far corrupted and prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the commission of every other crime.” - Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
“Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company.” - Jason Garrett-Glaser
- I don't think it is that people are saying shitposting is a higher form of humor, but that it requires a level of trust that you know the people you're shitposting with know you and know you're joking. Lack of that leads to your second quote.
  
  That's totally fair, and I agree with you. I probably shouldn't have used the phrase "high form of humor". I more meant "worthwhile form of humor". Even that doesn't really encapsulate what I mean.
  I don't know. It can be hard to separate brainrot from intelligent comedy, and I laugh at both, myself. I'm not the comedy police or anything, I just don't want to end up here:
- We become who we pretend to be.
  
  Great failure of Pauline (🤡🤡🤡🤡) discourse: actions don't matter, only faith. Bitch nothing in your head matters, only what you do is consequential. Motherfucker destroyed Christianity before it even had a chance get started
- That's me! Cringe and proud.
- In the 90s, calling yourself a flat earther was a opportunity to have a fun and yet silly conversation about belief in science. During that time, both people KNEW that the earth was round. It was an exercise in creativity and played straight for laughs.
  But somewhere in the 2000, some people didn't realize the satire. They actually BELIEVED in it.
  There's a line of shitposting like with anything.
  Shitposting is an art. It's satire.
  Then there's actual shitty people who don't realize that the good shit posts harm nobody. Where shitty people posting disgusting racist things under the guise of Shitposting are too stupid to understand the nuance.
  This commenter said it best:
  To the people who think what OP did was completely normal and something everyone does, (and I hate to use this phrase) check the “ratio” here. Nobody thinks this is normal. You and OP are in the slim minority spewing vile shit about people in your lives. It’s cruel and childish. You’d be smart to learn from OP’s predicament before you find yourself in the exact same situation with everyone you know hating you because you thought it was perfectly normal to constantly trash talk them behind their back. It’s not normal. Not everyone is doing it. Assholes like OP and apparently yourself are doing it. And it clearly can bite you in the ass. As I said in my initial comment, these kinds of things can have serious real world consequences. So you may wanna wise up and start being a respectable human being ;)
  
  Shitposting is an art. It's satire.
  I might get cooked for this but it's just not.
  As a person who has been shit posting for at least a decade at this point, 99% of shit posting is either just saying something stupid on purpose or being a cunt to someone.
  "Shitposting is an art" is some shit a dweeb says online to make themselves look interesting because "I like to say dumb shit for attention" sounds a lot worse.
  Like sure, sometimes it's funny to be a cunt to someone online (within reason) but let's not pretend it's something profound.
  Furthermore, the fact that it's not something profound but just dumbass behavior done for laughs is the reason it can be misunderstood by honest dumbasses.
- Shitposting is just pretending to be stupid/racist/shitty for laughs/attention, right? Pretty low form of humor, if you ask me (no one did), but I'm also guessing a lot of shitposters aren't just pretending.
  The thing is, a lot of them are pretending until they're not. In contexts where their audience isn't made of assholes, they'll just say their racist (or fascist or misogynist or whatever) posts are jokes, they're making fun of racists and they're making fun of easily offended liberals.
  And because they know they're going to use the "just a joke" excuse, they'll post shit that's even more extreme than what they actually believe - so when they say they're just posting to offend people and don't actually believe what they post they're being honest.
  But when they feel comfortable that their audience is full of racists, they'll post the same racist crap, but they'll do it absolutely seriously.
  I believe the term for that is Schrödinger's asshole.
- Isn't this a group chat between friends though, so its not an open community where actual idiots are free to just join it.
  I play a lot of games that include genocide, like Rimworld, Stellaris, Drox Operative 2, Factorio. That doesn't mean I am actually going to go out and commit one.
  
  One, nah. Two, you missed the ex getting her privacy violated by OP sharing her texts in the chat.

I once had a group chat that got leaked. There's a possibility that it may have involved some light treason.
- Well there's always money in the banana stand.

Oh no. The consequences of my own actions have come back to haunt me

Pete Hegseth, is that you?
- It also feels like something Kavenaugh would have been into.

The world needs more Dereks
- I love all the comments who hate Derek, obviously projecting their own shitty behavior.
  What a tell.

Be careful who you trust and only post things online that you wouldn't mind everyone in your life seeing. Never trust the internet.

If my group chats got leaked they would just think we were all idiots who love vehicles and watching people get hurt or make really dark jokes.
Nothing really personal other than always posting really cringe crap and then tagging someone who we know it'll piss off and telling them that it reminded us of them.
Yeesh
- My leaked group chats are just messages of me abusing emojis and and reusing memes from 10 years ago
- Somebody would manage to take offense. No doubt in my mind.
- OP gave away the game when they mentioned that they like to boast about trolls they've accomplished or whatever.
  Cringe shit. I bet that chat was just full of awful shit and as bad as the OP sounds, he's actually downplaying it in an attempt to save face.

To narcissists, everything is someone else's fault.
- Is the person who made the comments a narcissist, yes. Is the person who screen shorted it and shared it also a narcissist, absolutely.
  
  "Hmmm should I expose all the offensive photoshops and derogatory things they did said about specific people?" No that's not narcissist by itself.

I thought this was going to be satire about the Atlantic editor being accidentally included in war room group chats. Lol.

I would love for my 40k groups five year group chat to be leaked. My theories about Alpharius is valid I tell you.
Nononono, dont go! We haven't even gotten to the part with Valdor, and the Emperor yet.
- I want to hear it!
  
  OK. We start at the beginning. 10000 years before our current date, a boy is born in Anatolia that will one day become known as The Emperor... Wait perhaps we should start 30 million years ago since you also should know about the war in heaven, the fall of the C'tan and the fate on a race known as the Necrotyr.

Can't have my group chats leaked if I don't have any!
- Thanks for that comparison :(

I suddenly feel better about my group chats, it's all gay memes, positivity and anti-capitalist revolution.
- Same, are we in the same group chat??
  
  Naw, I only just got my pals into Lemmy. Glad to know there are other havens out there, though.
- Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism

LOL private chat with 8 people.
You don't even need a Derek, all you have to do is have one of the 8 perceive that they are being wronged. One's mate makes googly eyes at another, next thing you know, it's all public.
Never post anything anywhere if it ever getting out will fuck you.
Nothing is private and you should strive to be the kind of person that doesn't say shit about other people behind their backs.

i wouldn't have guessed that reading the comments of this would lead to blocking another lemmyworld user. it's amazing how much better a conversation can be when you get rid of the actual shit
- Best part about Shitposting honestly.
  There's the shitposters who post weird funny things and are here just having a laugh.
  Then the awful mofos who think Shitposting means they can be their true selves and post offensive garbage under the guise of Shitposting. Then they get called out, get really offended/flip out because they didn't realize.
  It's a great honey trap.

never admit to the group chat leaks.
Always be shitposting. They can never catch you offguard if you don't stop.
- Shitposting is one thing. Without knowing what the war memes were, I can't say one way or another.
  Sharing private chats from your girlfriend? Yeah, that's too far.
  
  Sharing private chats from your girlfriend? Yeah, that’s too far.
  Whoa whoa whoa, but they said they didn't commit crimes by sharing nudes without consent! They're not that disrespectful!
  
  i doubt the war memes were that bad honestly. There's been a lot of shitposting about it general, it's just that most people haven't seen it because it's not particularly common. The real question is what their actual opinion is.

I sure hope Derek wears a cape.

Derek sounds like a cool guy.
- derek sounds like a dick.
  What you do in private does not necessarily reflect who you are in public. And who you are in public, does not necessarily reflect who you are in private either.
  
  Realistically I don't think we have enough information to judge fairly. The person is probably minimising what they did, and if that is the case may well have deserved it. But we don't actually know what was said.
  
  This was not private. This was a group of assholes laughing behind their friends’ backs at their expense. It was secret, but not private.
  
  lmfao what a fucking excuse of a reason. i hope you know i hate you. not hyperbole. i hope everyone else knows i hate you too. like genuinely, and actually; blatantly being a terrible person like you are is a large part of what is wrong with the world and i despise every single one of you chucklefucks that inches us ever further away from common decency, day by day. life isnt some fucking game.
  do you recognize you’re doing olympic level mental gymnastics throughout these comments in order to make the people you identify with in the internet story the good guys or are you just incredibly dense and/or like fucking with people for kicks?
- Derek sounds like a snitch
  
  Good. Don’t be an asshole to your friends behind their backs. That’s trashy behavior, and you deserve to lose your friends if you do it.
- Invasion of privacy, not cool
  If you think someone is shit don’t screenshot a bunch of chats, just leave and tell people you saw stuff you didn’t like
  
  What about the people on the group chat who were disrespecting other people's right to privacy by sharing private mesaages and pictures? It's cool when they do it?

My groups collective chats are more of a microcosm of meme culture at the given time, sort of a petri dish of various meme strains fighting for (limited) mental resources.

There’s always two group chats, one for everyone and one for the people you want to talk to. And if you think that doesn’t happen I have some bad news for you.
- hah ! 😂

Disappearing messages people!

They called him brother that changes everything lol

It's a good thing. Kind seeks kind. Don't be afraid to be who you are.
- Normal people who don't do this: yeah that's weird.
  Sus people: Hey that's not fair!
  
  What is not fair? I just said kind seeks kind, you don't need people that aren't your kind. It's an easy way to figure out who isn't your kind. The leak, is a great way to communicate.
  As OP said, he found quite some more people that wanted to join.

This is a leave a guy in the middle of a desert moment.

Thought this was parity until I saw it was 1yr old

Derek getting mad laid now.

Are you 'Derek'?

Group chat got leaked

Wow. Derrick is a dirty pu--y. Screw you, Derrick, you don't even know us. This is why no one likes you, Derrick.

fuck you derek

Violating someone's privacy doesn't suddenly become OK just because they're a shitty person...
- Yes, those private texts should have stayed private
  
  Agreed
- Things shitty people say when they get caught
- Indeed, just like being a bad person is not fine if you keep your bad behavior private.
- What a bad dichotomy.
  It's not the same as "violating someone's privacy" because that implies that these people shared something deliberately with someone they trusted, that wasn't the case, this was stupid people posting shitty, hateful, vindictive or exploitative material in a semi-open space and not being careful about who they invite in. Fuck them, they deserve this lesson.
- True, but it is oh so satisfying when bad things happen to shitty people. Especially people finding out the true depth of their shitty. Even more satisfying when they complain about it.
- If you find out that someone cheated on their wife, do you have to keep it private to protect the cheater's "privacy"?
  Maybe it's better if that person's wife knows the truth.
  
  Obviously that's different

@TO: would you like being recorded while drunk? This is pretty much the same.
- Sounds like the solution is not to be a asshole while drunk? Or not be drunk? Or not be there to get recorded?
  Nobody forced you to do anything and take responsibility for your own actions.
- If you tend to behave a certain way when drunk that could make you incredibly embarrassed or have consequences in your life you don't want... do you know what you should fucking do?
  Not get drunk around others.
  If you like sexist, racist or other kinds of humor and want to share it with friends who like the same things, you have to fucking accept that people might find out about it and share it with others. If you have anything in your life that you feel shame around, either learn to stop feeling shame about it, or stop sharing it. Those are your only options, acting like a potential victim about it makes you seem like a giant douche.
  
  Look, humans are inherently social beings. In public, there's some pressure to behave the "correct" way, present an image. In private spaces with friends, you don't have that pressure, you can unwind and make the occasional silly joke. That guy, however, betrayed the trust they gave him and TO and you say that's their fault, for being silly with someone they trusted.

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- P

So shitposters were shitposting. Don't be bitches and act surprised when people are offended. Own that shit. It was meant to offend, that's what makes it funny. I'll join their discord and shitpost too. Call me a "bad person" all you want. idgaf.
- Not so much a bad person as someone who vehemently opposes opportunities to be better.
  
  Joking about those things does not make him any better or worse, it's comedy. Ending that behavior is not an opportunity to be better.
  
  Fuck that. Why do I need to be better? I don't give 2 shits about virtue signalling. I don't have to convince the world that I'm a good person, I know my own virtues and I know that I am; so I'm allowed to joke about horrific shit all the fuck I want.
  All of this performative outrage from people is silly. You're not a bad person just because you like dark humor or shitposting.