2mo ago

LA Times reports that Palm Springs bomber had an account on Lemmy.world

www.latimes.com

A fire, a fascination with explosives and family discord marked path to clinic bombing

Imagine my surprise reading this on the LA Times this morning (emphasis mine):

“I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely...”

Here is an archive of the article.

Here is his account.

It looks like he only stayed on Lemmy for about a month, most likely a temporary Reddit exile with the earliest exodus on June 2023. The article mentions threads on Reddit but doesn't provide any quotes from there. User IndictEvolution on Reddit deleted their account, and the article makes it sound like they are referring to a different username that they don't specify.

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Admiral Patrick @lemmy.world

2mo ago

A fire, a fascination with explosives and family discord marked path to clinic bombing

www.latimes.com /california/story/2025-05-20/fire-fascination-with-explosives-family-discord-marked-path-to-clinic-bombing

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2mo ago

CW: Suicide

LA Times reports that Palm Springs bomber had an account on Lemmy.world

www.latimes.com /california/story/2025-05-20/fire-fascination-with-explosives-family-discord-marked-path-to-clinic-bombing

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cm0002 @lemmy.sdf.org

2mo ago

A fire, a fascination with explosives and family discord marked path to clinic bombing

www.latimes.com /california/story/2025-05-20/fire-fascination-with-explosives-family-discord-marked-path-to-clinic-bombing

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Not beating the Reddit.world accusations. 😏
- But have you considered .ML is evil tankie!?!!?
  
  We need to step up our game. Quickly kill some white rich people, there's nothing more evil than that!
  
  it's cool that Mali (.ml) is one of the Sahel states that's rejecting imperialism and ML also happens to stand for marxism-leninism
  
  "Tankies are a serious threat to domestic and international politics. Please ignore that only 1% of all people know what that is. Also let us actively keep a terrorist and retroactively remove their comments before it became news, because the FBI made us."
  
  I can bet .ml is considered a bigger threat.
  
  I mean it is but this was about .world
- I think theyre embracing the comparison
This person was removed as the sole mod for !antinatalism@lemmy.world three days ago.
Edit to add:
NBC: Reddit bans an anti-natalist group after Palm Springs explosion.
The Intercept: What is “Efilism,” the Obscure Anti-Natalist Ideology of the Palm Springs Bomber?
Rolling Stone: Palm Springs Bombing Suspect Apparently Promoted Human Extinction
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://old.reddit.com/r/efilism
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://old.reddit.com/user/UraniumTetrachloride

He’s still the sole mod for !efilism@lemmy.world and !chemistry@lemmy.world, though those communities never really got off the ground.
- lmao
- wtf? being a domestic terrorist is not against lemmy.world rules as long as you don't do it on the site...
- Man this will probably hurt the amateur chemistry community due to overreacting crackdowns, even though this is one guy who was part of that community and plenty of other people have done bombings without any interest whatsoever in amateur chem. I do think the community needs more moderation given how frequently I see dumbasses on reddit doing some extremely dangerous shit without realizing it, but this will probably get any discussion of fun chemistry banned everywhere.
  
  Mander.xyz is a better instance for science than Lemmy.world anyways.
- Wow. Now there's a bunch of people who should never have been born. Too bad they've gotta make it everyone else's problem
The next terrorist to come from lemmy better not be another edgy fash loser. Do better.
- Eco or better!
  I dk what's better than eco.
  
  Some Willem Van Spronsen type stuff maybe?
  
  Old school like Narodnaya Volya perhaps.
- I disagree. terrorism and accelerationism are not needed and do more harm than good. The idea that you can just commit political violence and solve your problems is too tempting to angry people, who then believe that the actually successful tactics like organizing are not necessary. It’s taking the easy way out and usually just turns more people against you.
  Of course, violence to protect people from the violence of the fascists is entirely acceptable and to be lauded.
  
  I think they're joking lol
  Well, some adventurism seems to have some positive effect though. Look at how taking down the UHC pig is being received by the public. Could be used to radicalise some people perhaps
- Must be pretty embarrassing for .ml that shitlib central got a terrorist before they did, ngl.
A fascist on lemmy.world???
Lmao another victory for hexbear.
- We lost "First Lemmy Instance to produce a Domestic Terrorist" tho
  
  There's still "First Lemmy Instance to produce a based domestic terrorist".
  
  This is inaccurate.
  I still maintain that UlyssesT killed the UnitedHealth CEO as he, once again, mysteriously disappeared right before the killing and Luigi is a fall guy. He's also widely attributed to have killed Henry Kissinger. Difference is he got away. Hexbear reigns supreme.
  
  I mean if we count doing agitprop in foreign countries where it's illegal to be a Red, we might take first for international t-rist...
  
  Totally not saying any of us did it or not though. That's illegal
  
  International terror is where it's at these days
Of course it's fash nonsense, too.
- Seems like nihilistic anti-natalism?
  
  Aka malthusian, which is ecofascism.
  
  Shit like this comment give major ecofash vibes.
- it's only fashion nonsense because the media will only ever cover fashion
  when it's anti-fashion the media never covers it. Remember when FORmica xavier eliminated the [[[[synonym for lint]]]] of the number of appendages on your hand? Media barely even covered it. Nobody remembers the incident even though literally cinco de mayo chicharrones ay ay ay
  
  This reads like genAI gibberish but I fear that I'm just old and not hip with the slang kids are using. I hate the future
“I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely...”
kills one and injures 4 others
I got a funny feeling this guy doesn't actually care about consent.
- Lock it down!
Oh fuck they’re going to call us all extremists
- We'll have to push back with pointing to the decentralized nature of the fediverse, and that there's gonna be crazies on some instances. I always use email as an analogy when explaining Lemmy, maybe we could continue that and argue you wouldn't blame all of email infrastructure if an extremist had a gmail or Hotmail or whatever.
  Actually now that I read that, it just might be more confusing. But there's gotta be a counter angle to argue to get ahead of people thinking "Lemmy=bad"
  
  Also even if the cops shut down world, people will just … move. Like yours and my instances don't even have the word "lemmy" in the domain. I don't think anyone would care beyond "we shut down that radical forum."
  Though most likely is it goes completely unnoticed and some bombing or shooting or human rights abuse next week will shoves it down the memory hole for good.
- You think that quote's bad, you should see what they're saying on Xitter
  
  Soooo..... What are they saying? I don't have xitter...
  
  I’m glad I’m not there. I only ever had a Twitter account when I made a bot that fact check replied every post of Trump’s around 2016, then I deleted it.
I love how quickly lemmy.world speed ran the aesthetically lib to fash redditor pipeline problem without even a profit motive behind them.
- I mean lemmy.world aims to be Reddit 2, and reddit had jailbait, fatpeoplehate, the_donald, keeps Gamergate subreddits open, r/conspiracy, and so many more horrid things kept up because it made more clicks.
  So why wouldn't lemmy.world keep an active terrorist on board? Think of the potential money to be made.
  
  Maximizing the MAU and pLTV of a niche internet forum for the love of the game.
Fucking wild that Lemmy made it on mainstream news.. of course it had to be some stormfrontian to get it to that stage..
- If I had to choose between a bomber and something like r/jailbait (which was the medias first big look at reddit) as the sites big first exposure to the world, I'm going for the bomber every time.
Damn Axis.world made a domestic terrorist before Us
I guess we cant call ourselfs the most dangerous instance anymore
lmao, the only mod action on his account was removing him as the mod of !antinatalism@lemmy.world three days ago, after he was already dead.
Which was the day after the bombing, FBI must have been up LW’s ass pretty quick.
- LW still not banning that comm is disgusting
  
  Up until now I thought anti-natalism was nonviolent. Now they've got their own Unibomber.
- That seems very minor. I wonder if it was just a coincidence. Someone pointed out in another comment here that he's still the moderator in a couple of other communities.
  
  That’s the only mod action for the entire community, if it’s a coincidence it’s a wild one.
Yeah but see Hexbear is actually the violent extremist instance not the Rational Centrist instance of lemmy dot world. Or something I dunno I have a brain
- It’s the same thing that happened on Reddit when a childfree subscriber killed his kid
It is not called stormfront.world for nothing
- Who calls it that? ?
  
  Typically Leftists on the various Lemmy instances.
Malthusians, you want to stop new births and yet you don't target Elon Musk, who coincidentally is also a billionaire? Smh.
- Yeah what the hell. We know why but the lack of targeting Edgelord Khan is wild. It really says alot lol.
Wonder if the wayback machine can find anything from reddit or if we can find their account on lemmy.
Fuckin wild and 100% un-surprised it was .world lol
- I linked his account on Lemmy.world in the original post. I couldn't find an active account on Reddit though, unless the LA Times reporters used the wayback machine themselves to see his old posts. I'm sure that they would be on wayback machine, but the article mentions a different web handle associated with him.
These weirdo antinatalists and their misanthropic ideology are very dangerous. They often like to hide their true intentions behind pseudo progressive opinions.
- I don't think they even do hide them very good, they are scratched really fast. Worse is that malthusianism runs pretty shallow under mainstream liberalism and is reproduced by white supremacy.
- . I wish the planet earth itself was hit with such a large celestial body as to simply explode
  This does not even dignify a response. Please seek professional help.
Least fascist lemmy.world user 💀
- I think I am a world user, it was just the top of a drop down menu when I created my lemmy. God damn it.
  
  You've got nothing to worry about. It's the largest instance. There's no particular stigma for users on it. Unlike there is for the more ideologically selected instances, like .ml.
- The irony is almost too much coming from a .ml account...
  
  Irony is when anti fascists call people fascists, apparently
  
  ? This instance has been doing a pretty good job banning reactionaries so far
100% guarantee that he also had a Steam account and wore pants at some point in his life.
- 100% of people who consume water die!
  
  Oh damn, i just hydrated myself
- "Looking for a man who recently drank milk?"
In that same period, Bartkus’ rhetoric on alternative social media sites was dark.
I'm just proud they know we exist.
The implication here is that somehow that's a problem with lemmy and lemmy.world...but I bet he also had an amazon account and no one is blaming them.
- I didn't read it as any particular implication, but that they just found the money quotes they wanted on lemmy.world.
- I heard the bomber was chosen as Time person of the year in 2006
- Small niche where the user is active, big international service that everyone uses that has zero connections to them.
  Gee I wonder why people are talking about lemmy.world
  
  "Active" being a dozen posts from two years ago.
  Though right now we're probably inflating our own importance by thinking anyone at all will associate Lemmy with this guy in any meaningful way. The name was referenced by the reporter because they needed to say where the random posts came from, and talked about like it's just a general social network rather than an organizing place for a radical ideology.
We're hittin the big time boys!
- We did it Reddit!
- Woop! We made mass violence perp level!
CIA plot confirmed
I bet he was an Arch user!
- I'm unaware of this stereotype.
  
  Gonna second this, no clue about this one.
- Implying any of us go outside
  I've finally got my ultra minimalist system set up and I am going to bask in it's soothing glow.
- What the fuck is wrong with you? This guy bombed a clinic, and you are joking about the distro he used?
  
  Found the Arch user.
  
  He did some damage for sure, but thankfully I don't believe anyone was seriously injured.
Of course he was a .worlder lmao. That instance is really never beating the allegations.
- People fighting over instances is fucking stupid.
  
  Not really tho. Some instances talk a big game about their cOnCeRnS when defederating from the explicitly leftist instances but then let fascists of every ilk say the wildest shit as long as it's directed to whomever is the villain of the month for libs.
  
  卄乇ㄥㄥ　ㄚ乇卂卄
  
  I'd agree except it's the biggest one, so fair game imo.
  It's like Hamiltonians taking swipes at Toronto.
- Truly the /pol/ of the fediverse
- Truly the cesspit of Lemmy
- I signed up for it when leaving reddit just because it was the biggest, what’s wrong with .world?
  
  ...That it's no better than reddit and doesn't ban right wingers? Like that IndictEvolution account is still up lmfao
  
  .world is ideologically liberal on average, so a lot of people on the fediverse take issue with that as Leftists tend to be more prominent by ratio than on Reddit. It's also the largest instance, and gets hate for that, as a lot of people like the decentralized aspects of the fediverse.
  
  Not much, its just has most lemmy users/communities so its a big point of failure.
- Holy shit the jokes just write themselves. It'll be amazing if .world doesn't try to censor this.
  Man I am just glad I never made an account there.
  
  Where should I go?? I thought .ml was bad
Our very first terrorist. We're going places boyos. Just hope this doesn't bring like minded people here, especially since reddit banned that sub, and Lemmy's is still up.
- We're still so young, we haven't even killed anyone yet.
  quick edit: I do have suggestions tho
Lemmy.world? The instance of misanthropic baby killing terrorists?
lmao, of course
freakin sweet, this totally won't be used as a pretext to criminalize not using meta/twitter/reddit
Preemptively bombing a fertility clinic as a last resort.
These people are like the photo-negitive of Eugenicists.
anti-natalists present with reactionary ideology since they're obsessed with what other people are doing with their bodies. And they advocate for a totalitarian state to regulate that. But then they're also obsessed with environmentalism?
Maybe their lefty misanthropes? I don't get it.
- If you read some of the other comments here, it's more like they're the two sides of the same coin. Eugenicists want to kill poor and other disadvantaged people and antinatalists (at least going by the bomber's comments) want primarily poor people not to have kids, although they seem to try to dress it up as not wanting anyone to have kids. Who knows, this is all pretty fringe stuff.
  
  Who knows, this is all pretty fringe stuff.
  He personally was the fringe, but antinatalism is product and offshoot of neomalthusianism and eugenicism which are in the core of imperialism. Just the big scale ones do not bomb a clinic, they bomb and starve entire nonwhite countries.
- Maybe the term is being taken over by eco-fascists, but I've considered myself an anti-natalist for many years and I'm only playfully misanthropic.
  I don't go in for the Malthusian claptrap. I just think it's more ethical to adopt an existing, actual real child rather than make a brand new one. I think this is a really really compelling point, and I wish more parents would seriously consider it before choosing to follow their biological imperative.
  It's like with nihilism, where everyone agrees life is ultimately meaningless, but some people are real babies about it (pun intended).
His last comment contained "and that wellness is hard to measure since society does not allow people to express how they truly feel about things."
Too true.
Hmmm, how did they find out?
- You mean the reporters? I wondered about that, but then realized that the guy tended to use the same online nickname on various sites. Searching the web for that nickname probably turned up a bunch of his accounts and then they could read the comments to determine if they were likely the same person. Pretty good reporting, I thought.
  
  Ah, good reason to always make new usernames for each site/service that is signed up for. 😉
Hitler subscribed to vegetarianism.

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