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  • “no, land back does not mean ethnic cleansing”

    I didn't suggest ethnic cleansing in the meaning of land back, nor does land back suggest ethnic cleansing. ONE of the scenarios of land back means you (as in the settler populus) would have to start pack up your stuff and leave, if this is what the Indigenous would want with their land reclaimed, then it's not up to you or me.

    This is of course highly, highly unlikely and as others and I have mentioned in other threads, the Indigenous majority would actually realistically want people to stay, most probably including you (idk, I'm not a USian, never mind a Native American), if this is what you're worried about.

    If I was a USian, I'd thank my lucky stars that they'd be this kind and HAVE BEEN despite them sustaining centuries of one of, if not the most brutal ethnic cleansing, land desecration and genocide, which is still ongoing to this day.

  • @Nakoichi@hexbear.net that was actually to me. But even then, assuming I'm not already engaging in real-life activism to downplay the point I was making isn't really a valid criticism of the point, but ig looking at other threads you seem to get that by now so it's w/e really.

  • Realistically and logistically speaking, if they were ever to retrieve their land back, the Native Americans would probably be MORE accepting of the idea to live amongst the working class that don't originate from their land rather than "evicting" the population, basic infrastructure (that's already replaced native tribes' land) would need maintenance, first of all.

    The fact that it scares them that this highly unlikely scenario of reclaiming land then the Indigenous do whatever they want with it is very poetic. The fact that they've probably also imagined dramatically violent scenarios of this is also funny, funny strange.

  • Less than half an hour later, the finders keepers rule I talked about elsewhere in this thread gets invoked.

    it's almost like the most thought-terminating cliches absolutely HAVE to be said and mentioned in the slightest available opportunity 🤣

  • "Ah but you see, a long time has passed by! There's generations [of settler-colonialists] that have already lived through these times, and the people of today have nothing to do with their past!"

    Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous' is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you're currently a part of.

    They're going to say the exact same shit for Palestine if it's allowed to be festered long enough by settler-colonialists, as if it already hasn't been festered.

  • Most of what they're doing is symbolic at best, imo. The trade ban recently introduced only applies to the 1949 borders, so trading with the rest of the zionazi entity is still fair game somehow, if I'm reading this right..:

    The Irish government approved Tuesday, May 27, the drafting of a bill to ban the import of goods from Israeli settlements considered illegal under international law, an unprecedented move for a European Union member.

    The move comes after the International Court of Justice last year said Israeli occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza Strip was illegal under international law, in an advisory opinion the Irish government said guided its decision.

    They're also the 2nd largest trading partner with the entity. I don't think the neolibs there would throw away their yearly ~3 billion check.

    Also, Ireland hosts like most of the US tech companies, so anything so much as threatens US' $$$, which among other things relies on these imports, will lead to Ireland being put in check:

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-41644330.html

  • i wonder if there were any restaurants from within the former USSR countries that took the following Western "civilized detectables" as inspiration:

    who am I kidding, there weren't and probably aren't any lol

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