Just one more lane

Elon:

Guys, I think I've got it... What if we built another lane but, you know, under the ground, like a tunnel.

Work 👏 from 👏 home👏 !

The answer to so many manufactured problems.

I once heard of an experiment in economics that offers insight into this.

Say you have 100 people. You give each of them one of two choices:

A : you get $40 unconditionally B: you get $70 - n, where n is the number of people who choose B

You end up getting, on average across experiments, n = 30.

If you move the numbers around (i.e, the $40 and the $70), you keep getting, on average, a number of people choosing B so that B pays out the same as A.

I think the interpretation is that people can be categorized by the amount of risk they’re willing to take. If you make B less risky, you’ll get a new category of people. If you make it more risky, you’ll lose categories.

Applied to traffic, opening up a new lane brings in new categories of people who are willing to risk the traffic.

Or something. Sorry I don’t remember it better and am too lazy to look it up. Pretty pretty cool though.

Just going to leave this one here:

Study: 83% Of Road Construction Stops Right Before They Would Have Added The Lane That Would Solve Traffic Problems

Think of it like trickle down economics. If it hasn’t worked yet, you just need to make sure that the fat cats on top are fed so forcefully and so fast that something starts trickling down eventually.

Just keep going. We will tell you when to stop.

omg poland 🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨

One more train* will fix it

just one more lane bro pls one more lane bro i swear just one more lane

Um acttschually, we knew about induced demand as early as 1920, but the government just doesn't care about science. (It used to be called traffic generation)

The other point to make here is, obviously you look at this highway trip and say “Well I am obviously not walking or biking it.” But, the expansive gaps between home and destination are often caused by many many roads and parking lots like this one. We have dedicated gigantic land masses specifically to cars, and it actually lengthens travel time to our destinations.

I have been to countries where, even if thin highways exist, they’re not the rule and it’s easy for other modes to get under or around them; and their roads don’t dominate the urban areas. There, the answer is simple: Just walk, you don’t even need a bike.

The approach worked as intended, more perfectly even.

Look at all those useless expenses on the pic, some people profited on products that weren't necessary to begin with, and put a lot of moneys in so the system wouldn't accidentally change for the better.

Any city's skylines players know what actually would fix this problem?

No! Don't stop now! We are so close!

In a place with essentially nothing but narrow two lane roads, no bike lanes or sidewalks, a little wider might serve some good. Adding a turn lane and a bike lane would free up tons of traffic.

"One More Lane Bro is the only option, I checked, and it should be subsidised by NYT who make too much money." - Robert Moses

I've seen that exact scene in Atlanta trying to get to Alpharetta from 75 S by 675.

Just mandate work from home, that will fix it. Whoa COVID proved it works!

I keep thinking this during my daily commute along a 3 lane freeway. If a bus/truck overtakes another bus/truck (often), it basically becomes a single lane freeway. And during peak, that little manoeuvre is going to cost you and hundreds of cars behind you, probably for a long time.

How about 2 more lanes?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Aja_album_cover.jpg/220px-Aja_album_cover.jpg

Man I remember those days.. when a 10 mile drive would sometimes be a 1 hour drive.

Luke Correia put it best

ngl, from the small thumbnail (on desktop) I thought this was a picture of a Venator from SW lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dKrUE_O0VE

That's definitely fixed my friend.

“What if we put lanes on top of the other lanes?”

I wonder if a picture like this could be used to fool future archeologists (or paleontologists or historic internetologists, or whichever would be studying it) into thinking we put great effort into segregating people with white lights and scum with red lights from using the same roads.

trailblazers ad?? 🐐

LA? 5? 405?

People will talk about induced demand and all that. But those people really just want to be able to get around. The fact that they just don't because the traffic is so bad doesn't mean you shouldn't add more lanes. It means you should add a lot more. Same with the one lane at a time approach. The fact that it didn't work does mean you are doing something wrong, but it maybe that you need to add 5 lanes at a time, not one. Now I'm not saying they should actually do that, just that the arguments against are BS.
A comprehensive public transit system, well maintained and well patrolled is what LA really needs. I am talking Paris metro on steroids. And it is going to cost in the trillions. But it isn't getting any cheaper by waiting.

Not forcing everyone to go to a big centralized city rather than spreading everything out will actually fix it. We started doing that long ago but recently have started listening to greedy real estate developers gentrifying cities and now EVERYONE GO TO CITY TO DO THING and people are now shocked, SHOCKED that traffic into and out of cities is out of control.

And love how other "solutions" are LOL MASS TRANSIT. Yep, going somewhere on a track that doesn't go immediately to a certain place then having to get on a damn bus or in a taxi or a freaking Uber scam to actually get where they need to go which is not only ableist because it's difficult for people with mobility issues to do that, but also problematic if you need to actually transport any decent amout/size of goods on said public transportation. Cars are the best at getting places and no amount of whining and bitching and complaining is going to change it.