let 'er rip

Linux is a useless hassle for most computer users.

I'd go a step further. Desktop computing as a whole is overkill for most users.
- As much as I'm loathe to admit it, my cheap Asus Chromebook is likely more than what 90 percent of humanity requires. And most of them could easily just get away with using a phone or tablet instead.
  I'm an old school guy. I love a good tower with a pair of monitors and stuff to do my editing and 3D design. But even those intensive tasks are getting better on smaller form factors.
  It's just not my world anymore. I've aged out of it.
- I wanna disagree with this so bad but I'm willing to bet 90% of the business done on desktops could be done in a web browser without much problem. Though I imagine a lot of proprietary software that keeps businesses going benefits from having a desktop. Not that it couldn't be retooled.
Why would you say something so brave, yet so controversial?
I could argue the same thing about Windows 11.
Can you imagine an average person going into best buy and buying a laptop, maybe in S mode, forced to make a Microsoft account and wait 5-8 minutes updating their machine before they can use it, just for Microsoft edge to pop up asking them to change their accent color. Or downloading a program online and a big old popup comes up saying "Available in the Microsoft Store!"
I personally argue Linux Mint is awesome and what's best for most people. my grandma (81) didnt want to switch to 10 or 11 after Windows 7 was going to be EOL, she tried mint and she absolutely loved it.
- For me it's com to a point that drivers are better on Linux. Linux is still missing drivers for a lot of devices but the ones we do have work seamlessly compared to windows
I’m a fairly savvy computer user and its always looked like a hassle to me. Maybe I’m just lazy and dont want to put the effort into learning it, but MS practices with windows lately are really pushing me into finally doing it.
- The hassle is the price of having more control over what's happening inside your computer. Some people don't want to care about that, and for those people, Absolutely it's too much of a hassle.
  I think the controversial opinion isn't whether or not Linux is more hassle than Windows or Mac (it is...of course it is), but whether or not that hassle is worth it. Does the extra control over your computer outweigh the few extra things you need to do to keep it running right.
  For me, the answer is yes. I don't find having to be a little extra careful about some precautions before hitting the update button a huge inconvenience, or working through the occasional glitch when an AUR package upgrades past its dependencies.
  But would that be too much hassle for someone like my mother, for example, who literally just wants to play games on Facebook? Of course. And there's nothing wrong with thinking that.
- Maybe one day you just buy another SSD and give it a try on there... Thats how I did it 2 years ago and I couldnt have guessed how much it would eventually, over time, become worth it to me.
  I initially installed PopOS but it worked so well that after 2 weeks I though to myself, "well this is boring, I installed it and now what?" and proceeded to try Arch (unsuccesfully at the time).
You use linux because you think it's objectively better. I use linux because I like doing nifty shit. We are not the same.
To add to this. Most complaints about windows from linux users are just people who don't know how to use windows, which is kinda embarrassing considering its the most used OS by a really big margin.
- Do you have any examples? I dont think I have seen complaints about Windows that are invalid if you knew how to use it.
- Linux based OSes are by far most popular globally. Windows is only super popular on desktops and laptops.
As an avid arch linux user.... Yeah, but I still love it
Android and ios is easier to use compared to both Linux and windows
- I don't understand iOS. It's super unintuitive. Maybe it's coming from the fact that I grew up in the DOS generation and had to fumble around with everything to get it done, that I am just fundamentally incompatible with a hardened and uncustomizable OS? I keep looking for "obvious" functions that simply don't exist, and am continuously flabbergasted when someone hands me an iPhone to do something.
  Linux, Windows, Android? I'll figure it out in seconds.
Ah, yes - the typical "I don't like it/it's too much of a hassle for me therefore it is useless for everybody."
Same thinking pattern that prevents the USA from adopting the metric system: I like the old system (because I grew up with it and don't want to learn something new) therefore the new system is bad.
These people should really try to be a bit less egocentric. Is it so hard to recognize that the world doesn't revolve around you?
- Dude one of my guys got a ticket yesterday where someone couldn't figure out how to turn on their monitor and they're in their 30s.

Actual direct conspiracy is usually not necessary to achieve the outcomes of most nefarious things people worry about. Two rich people which both want to protect their own wealth can look at each other and their respective actions and then take next steps working to protect their wealth without ever talking to each other and get basically the same outcomes as if they had coordinated. Shared interests and a reasonable understanding of the likely outcomes of choices can be almost as good as direct conspiracy.

It's not collusion, it's game theory. So you can't arrest me.
I get beat up every time I post something like this. Almost every nasty thing we see in the world is a simple case of an individual or group working towards their own best interests.
But why then do people do shitty things that they have to know will hurt someone? It's not that they're evil, they just don't care if you're not in their Monkeysphere.
Can't think of anything I've read that puts this together so well. Yeah, I know, cracked.com. Give it a spin, it really changed my thinking about the world. (It's old so the formatting in kinda hosed up.)
https://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html
- I read the article. It was entertaining, and there's definitely a lot of truth in what they write, but I found the whole thing to be, very ironically, over simplified. I think what bothers me the most is the author assumes/implies that human empathy does not extend beyond our line of sight. As if it's impossible for me to be considerate towards people I don't know. Which is complete bullshit. Their arguments seem to assume that a general sense of morality does not exist amongst people.
  I, personally, believe that most people are good and value being good. Certainly there are plenty that do not, but I believe they are the minorty. Fortunately my gripes with the article don't really discount the main point being made, it just suggests that things aren't as simple as the author tried to make it seem.
Very good point.
Remind me of a bit about the oligarchy of various families in early Rome. Even when the families disagreed with each other they never let is spill out into the lower classes. Why ruin a perfect thing?... then gracchis
That's why you need regulations: the market doesn't regulate itself.

I'll bite: most people don't give a fuck about the fediverse and the hassle of having to understand it all in order to navigate it is only a barrier to entry that will slowly drive away people until the platforms die a slow, painful death.

Everyone on here saying they like it this way and prefer it over the mess that is Reddit or X are completely missing the point that negative growth will only lead to a failed platform.

The fediverse tries to solve a problem that doesn't exist for everyone, while promoting itself as the solution to everyone's problem.
You're right, most people don't give a fuck about it, and many of the attitudes on Lemmy aren't shared by the vast majority of people. That's not necessarily a problem, but it is if you think that Lemmy is going to suddenly overtake Reddit.
- The Fediverse tries to solve a problem that doesn't exist for everyone
  I beg to differ. Twitter and Reddit CEOs having meltdowns affect more or less everybody who uses those platforms, don't they? Learning how the Fediverse works is a small price to pay for a guarantee that their platform will never disappear out from under them again.
Why will growth be negative? At worst it will be zero. Once people get over the initial hurdle of figuring out how federation works they don't tend to leave. We'll have slower growth than non federated platforms because of it, sure, but we aren't going to lose users.
- We are losing users.
Where I have (mostly) found myself freed of political extremists and bots on lemme, they've been replaced by relentlessly hubristic tech pedants who can find fault with anything I can think of to say.
So it's gone from infuriating to endlessly aggravating. I guess that's an improvement?

Marketing should be banned.

Its sole purpose is to get people to buy shit they do not need, in order to make someone more money than they deserve. All through manipulation of your brain.

It's the sole reason we are over consuming.

In a platonic world, marketing is for getting word out to the community of a product or service. For example - "I suddenly need a back doctor and don't know any", or - "I wish there was some place in town that had organic shallots and asparagus and watercress, locally-sourced honey".
In the real world, the tool is used and abused beyond the breaking point; before we even realized how we got there, we were bombarded by insurance ads from all sides simultaneously. Political ads. Male enlargement pills. Online casinos. Pharmaceuticals, with the fast-talking asshole at the end warning about "suicidal thoughts" and "serious risk of stroke" that comes along with their shit product.
The platonic ideal of marketing is always there. There is a flow of useful information. Unfortunately, it's buried and intertwined with a flood of noise and excrement.
Not as hot a take as you might think. It can't happen of course, at least not under our current economic structure
💯 on point here. Everyone knows it and doesn't understand why.
https://bettermarketing.pub/the-great-marketing-deregulation-2125a0efe094
- Consumers would just search for those kinds of products themselves if they encounter a problem they feel the need to improve. They don't need to be told those products exist.

Copyright and intellectual property as a whole is actually bad for artists and authors and only serves the interests of large corporations.

You think that opinion is gonna cause you to be bombarded on Lemmy?
- Well it got me bombarded on reddit.
The idea of ~~coffee~~ copyright is good, but corporate lobbying and the current most-money-wins legal system makes our implementation of copyright harmful. TL;DR: Interface good, implementation bad.
- I think even the interface is just intended as a band-aid fix for the current economic system (not gonna say the C word). In a better world art and media would be a public good.
  But I do get your point. Could absolutely be improved for the current system.
While I agree that this is true currently, I do not believe that it necessarily must be. Life plus 70 years is some top-tier bullshit, and no one who isn't a corporate bigwig will fight you on that. But 20 years from release date is not, especially if enforced equally on all creative works instead of just the ones made by artists who can afford corporate lawyers. Imagine if we had some way to protect against art theft or freebooting besides the honor system. Imagine if OpenAI actually had to pay artists to use their works to train Midjourney instead of just saying "it would be impossible to do this without massive amounts of copyright infringement, therefore you should just let us."
You are not wrong.

I like the 1990s Super Mario Brothers movie

They went so needlessly deep on the world building while being completely disconnected to the IP.
I'm so glad I saw this cause I'm getting a physical copy of it soon.
It is far and away a better story than the new one.

not all Christians are assholes who touch kids. a lot of (not saying all) the atheists here are absolutely wild

- Militant Evangelical Atheists are the worst. Give me a good laid back agnostic any day.
- internet atheists
  I'm really into theological debate/discussion but I gotta admit, I cannot stand atheist communities online. I want to believe all the vitriol and seething is coming from kids who haven't processed their religious trauma... But I get the feeling at least half of it is adults with nothing better to rail against
- "one AND the same"
- Victim shaming much?
- My favorite are the ones that treat science like religion, and don't recognize the hypocrisy.
this is just true. first time i saw the atheist memes community i thought "huh that seems interesting" then i looked at whats in there and "huh these people just hate cristianity and barely even give good reasons for it"
- No one hates religion as much as those who got free of it. It's quite valid reason.
  It's of course always big news when another pastor was raping kids, but it's only the iceberg of the violence kids experience in religious homes.
If you consider atheism to be a belief system in itself, online atheists are often a great way to dissuade people from lapsing away from organised religion.
Internet atheism has just always been pretty bad. I enjoy a good joke about religion but some people take it to extremes.
- when I first got on lemmy I literally never minded the atheist memes until awhile after. they started getting very extreme.
This sounds like an asshole Christian kid touchers opinion of you ask me… 🤔
Yeah I had to block the atheism and religion related subs bc they were cringe
Maybe, but religious people are categorically idiots.
- Easy now bronco, only top posts were supposed to be blindly incendiary.
I'm a very well domesticated atheist, tyvm!
E: Jfc, it's just a joke...
They may not all be pedos, but a lot more are assholes who hate homosexuals and trans persons, or assholes who want to deny women their reproductive rights, or assholes who keep voting for far-right extremists. Just because a lot of Christians are "nice people" doesn't mean that their ideology causes any less harm.
- I must've grew up in a very different household then most American's. Practicing religion with my family the Christian ideology shouldn't be any of those things, it should be to spread peace and love, "love thy neighbor".
  Anyone who's a far right extremist especially in 2024 I completely agree are all assholes, but I hope I can reiterate that "Trumps Christians" is its own religion and ideology entirely, and a lot of other people, especially those practicing religion in other countries, are actually those peace wanting love spreading people that Jesus was actually trying to spread to his followers, we are commanded not to judge others for we do not have the right to judge, but also not to condemn others for the same reason. Instead, we're commanded to spread peace and love to all of God's children. That's at least what I've been taught in my church, my family, and by reading the bible myself. We do not agree with those ideologies (being a general dick head, being judgmental, harassing people, restricting woman's rights, etc etc) and anyone who does may believe in Jesus but are not followers of him if thats their purpose in life. And it sucks ever since Trump we've all been categorized into that group and painted as the same thing, which is what makes me despise him even more.
  It seriously hurts to see how many Church's and Christians have become so unbelievably fucking evil in the states.

Firefly was overrated and was right to be cancelled.

Get out.
I was digging this thread until this post. I am looking for my pitchfork now.
Well done.
I hate that I’m supposed to upvote this comment.
How can cowboys and hookers in space be anything but fantastic?
Fuck you! Fuck you AND the horse you rode in on.
Actually, you seem to one of the only ones to understand the post. But still, firefly was awesome, don't go there
whats firefly
- TV series
I saw Serenity before I knew Firefly existed. Love that movie but couldn't agree with you more about the show.

we're gonna let religious idiots and selfish fuckwits destroy the entire ecosystem because they're too fucking stupid to understand simple science and too immature to realize they're the fucking problem.

It's not as simple as stupid group of people does bad things. There is a clear and powerful monetary motivation to harm the environment and the people responsible are well aware of what they are doing. They simply do not care.
The climate deniers are not the problem and it isn't every individuals responsibility to dramatically alter their lives and consumption for the smallest effect on our environment. Your average climate denier denier does not make this better obviously but they are a victim of an intentionally deceitful propaganda campaign
- they disproportionately spew carbon into the atmosphere intentionally subverting their vehicle's emission reduction technology purposely for the ability to offend the libs.
  I agree with your premise, but think it's in addition to the principles I suggested, not instead.
I wish I could tell every single one this. But they are too dumb to get it.
- yup. had someone in another thread, today, say that covid was the same thing as the flu and wearing 'pantyliners' on our faces was because we were scared.
  1.2 million dead americans, 1500+ dead every week for 3 years on average.... the only thing I'm scared of is letting morons like that make decisions that impact the rest of society. If only they realized they don't live in bubbles and cooperating is mutually beneficial, but that would take a modicum of grey matter that they apparently cannot muster.

I like my expensive steak well done.

Let me say that your comment is on topic and a valuable addition to the conversation. I hope you get many upvotes.
Personally I think you should be banned from eating a good cut of meat ever again. The boiled leather of an old worn out shoe should be a feast for you.
- The good news is I would argue the most expensive cuts of beef pretty much cannot be "ruined". So eating them well done is probably ok. I'm talking about meats with insane amounts of marbling like Kobe beef.
Blocked.
I used to eat steak well done until I made it myself for the first time and massively misjudged the timings. Came out medium rare and it was amazing. Do it that way every time now.
But people acting like well done steak is a crime against nature is so bizarre.
Don't forget to smother it in ketchup
- And eat it out of a highchair
Not a problem. But it tastes very similar to a cheap steak well done.
Do you also drink single malt whisky with coke?
- Personally, I do like cocaine with my Scotch, but I understand most people don't.
I hate that I have to upvote this...

I did not care for the Lord of the Rings.

Love the movies, can't get through 2 chapters of the books. I've easily read 1,000+ books, and I'm very forgiving, i.e., not picky. But I just can't get into Tolkien.
- Loved the books (read 'em mutiple times) but didn't care for the movies. Not even the look of them (the film was over exposed with an ugly color palet).
- I hear ya. I found the first half of Fellowship to be excruciating to read. Especially the Tom Bombadil stuff. I gritted my teeth and struggled through it. Then when they get to the barrow downs it really picks up, and I enjoyed the second half of the book.
  I found Two Towers a really fun read.
  I found Return of the King to be okay. Pace was decent but Tolkien's over the top, grandious writing style in that book got kind of annoying.
  Not sure if this helps you, but I thought I'd share my thoughts just in case.
I absolutely hated them the first time I watched them in the theatre. Years and years later I watched them on my sofa, in my living rooms, and finally enjoyed them.
They were too long and drawn out of a story to be engaged by surrounded by screaming children and teenagers yapping to each other.
Watching it at home it went from something I hated to one of my favourites.
The Two Towers remains to this day the only book that I was reading by my own choice that I skipped parts of. Maybe I'd read them if I was reading it today (it was the history lecture part, I wanted them to get on with the story but might appreciate the history more now), but I don't really care to read Tolkien again. I'll always appreciate what he did for the fantasy genre, but it has evolved beyond him now IMO.

Black tea is superior to coffee, because the caffeine rush is much more pleasant and the crash is mild. It's better at helping you focus and improving your mood. Tea doesn't wreck your stomach lining and turn you into a raving looney when you can't get it. It's cheaper than coffee, pound for pound. The people who run the world are all tea drinkers.

takes his daily ritaline
Yeah such a mild crash when I drink tea in the morning
Standard English breakfast? Or something else?
- Nay nay! Loose leaf single origin or GTFO! Since we're being controversial, let's be a fun type and talk about what really matters. How long of a steep?! COME AT ME TEABROOOOS
I enjoy both but well brewed tea seems to be faster and less work than well brewed coffee. Both to prepare and in cleanup / maintenance of the equipment.
- Indeed! High five!

Capitalism works great. You just need to put in a few guard rails and be willing to step in and fix she once in a while.

guard rails
B...But that's SOCIALISM!
- Don't get me wrong, I think the tankies and communist are as crazy as the trumpets. A pragmatic center voting base is dead.
As soon as you get even slightly specific about the guard rails, people start moaning.
We just need people to quit bitching about the guardrails
Lemmy has been quite a shock on that front. All these people bitching about capitalism using a machine only capitalism could have provided.
And yes, every excess of the system can be dialed in without trashing the whole thing.
- only capitalism could have provided
  [citation needed]
Unfortunately, capitalism requires an underclass of oppressed laborers in order to function. Or at least, every capitalism ever has had one. Maybe it could work without it? We'll probably never know though.
You should go back to Reddit, and enjoy your capitalist world.
- B I N G O
  Couldn't help yourself even on an unpopular comment thread. I don't like your opinion so get out 🤣

All this revolutionary technology in the world and yet the masses are dumber

Giving people tools does not make them smarter.
Because there are people with money and power who use this technology to manipulate people.
- Let's be honest: way more people than we would like to admit gravitate towards junk content on their own, most of the time.
  Celebrity gossip and conspiracies, reactionary politics and pseudo-science.
  There is a ton and a half of extraordinary educational content on places like YouTube. Say you start watching videos from the PBS Spacetime channel, then start watching what the algorithm throws at you. Pretty soon you'll be getting things like Cambridge physics lectures on your feed. Then suddenly videos about mathematical equations start appearing, another rabbit hole opening up before your eyes.
  The algorithm is an incredibly powerful tool, and just like a knife or a blowtorch, it can be mishandled and/or abused.
  So you give people the tool, people start inputting shit into the tool, and when shit comes out the other end, it's all about "oh look... it's the fault of capitalism!"
  Maybe capitalism seems mediocre because people are mediocre.
  They rant about how there's no good options, you give them a good option, they stare at it blankly for a second before turning their backs on it, to keep on ranting about how there are no good options, and how it's exclusively the fault of some pig in a suit in New York City, or some librul mooslem-lovin' gay commie bastard from Hollywood.

I hate Nutella, taste like greasy watered down cheap chocolate.

The EU version differs from the US version, and even the EU recipe was tampered with and now contains way fewer hazelnuts. The pre-2000 generation was peak nutella. No idea what letter you associate with those folks, I'm way out of the loop.

Almost all of us here spend too much time addicted to what technology has created, it's ruining our lives, we know it, but rather than face that fact, we spend even more time on what technology has created to voice blame on anything but ourselves.

And we are mad at ourselves, but it feels even better to be mad at other people, social structures, and the wealthy. But, we're cheap and easy, so we do the easy thing that makes us feel better, even though it's a cheap and temporary feeling.

I don't think capitalism is the worst thing on earth.

Capitalism isn't the worst, but unregulated capitalism? There's gotta be boundaries. Capitalism is never gonna care about dumping toxic waste into that river or carbon into the air.
Obviously there are worse things but they doesn't make capitalism great either
Am I saying capitalism is perfect? Definitely not. But I feel like people tend to blame everything that's wrong with the world with capitalism. Problems that would 100% still exist in other economic models.
Case in point, I used to hang out in /r/vegan and people there would blame meat consumption on capitalism. I hate to break it to you but there has never been an economic model in history where people treated animals ethically.
"Capitalism sucks" really has become the blanket statement for a lot of people these days whenever they see something they don't like about the world. I'm sorry but switching to communism, socialism, anarchism, etc isn't going to make people and the world suck any less.
It probably isn't. The problem with it is that it will, by its nature, ultimately collapse. But so do states that use other systems seemingly.
In capitalism profits must always improve. You always need to produce more, leading to exploitation of resources or do the same with less resource, meaning you lay off employees.
Ultimately resources run out, you can't lay off any more people or the economy becomes so awful nobody has the money to pay for your services.
You're not wrong. The basic premise of it seems fine. We have money, which can be a convenient way to do trades. I work in one career, but it doesn't give me food. Instead I get food from the store. And they need it from the farmers. But having food doesn't provide them with their other needs, so they go to another specialist. But that specialist doesn't get everything they need, so they come to me. So using cash is a convenient way of exchanging goods and services.
And some people enjoy running a company. They see a product people need or want, and maybe it's something they also need or want, and they enjoy making it, so they make a business out of it.
The basic premise of it makes sense. I prefer us to have another system, especially since I can see the issues with it. But for the most part, I also wouldn't hate it as much if we weren't in the over aggressive form of capitalism we have now.
That’s how capitalism gets you. It’s insidious.

I'm not sure whether I should upvote many of these because I don't agree with them, or down vote because I don't agree with them.

You can upvote and downvite wether or not a comment is relevant to the discussion, instead of the classical facebook like (originally, reddit was supposed to work like that)

Eggnog should be sold all winter, and not just during the holidays.

It isn't too hard to make! Sometimes I make a jug in the off months when I want a hit of Christmas.
This but with glögg (christmas drink in nordic countries)
I was sad when I went to the store the day after Christmas for Christmas chocolate on sale, and they were all out. Like I'm fine with it being seasonal. It's something I would really just want with sweatpants and a blanket. But I would drink it all winter if available.
I would even argue January is a better time for it. It's always colder in January.
This but with Christmas cake, a fruit cake with white icing on top.

Anytime I see something related to hello kitty, my little pony, and now spongebob, I think red flag.

I don't see what the issue is with something that most people at their age aren't into. Maybe we shouldn't let the cynical fuckfaces rule our culture and define what we should like.

The unabomber was right, but his way of doing things wasn't

I got an advertisement for "AI girlfriend service" and my first thought that followed was "You know, I've never read the Unibomber's manifesto".
- You aren't missing much. Mostly a whine-fest but retold by the most serious dry teacher you have ever had in your life. Me being really charitable here: modern STEM has not solved many of the problem that people thought it would solve, has created new challenges it is mostly unable to solve, and has created orphans of science education. People who had to spend everything they had to get to the position they hold and as a result are warped twisted unable to bond with other people.
  This was really my best shot at it. He picks and chooses to make his points, he projects his life on other people, he demands thst modern society solve every problem even problems that the past had but didnt bother caring about. His points are very incoherent and it is difficult to pin him down to an actual argument, the few times you can a basic level of research shows how incorrect he was.
  Example: a career in the STEM field can be demonstrated to be a wise choice. Low divorce rates, high employment rates, longer lifespans, and high salaries. Yeah he was fucked over by people that doesn't mean life is shit it means nothing more than what I said. And if you think that people will be all nice and happy living in peace once we get rid of modern civilization well I suggest a conversation with an anthropology major.

The people who claim to fight the hardest for civil rights, actually wind up making the situation worse, not better.

I don't mean the people who fight the hardest, but the people who are the most in your face about it...

Truly fighting for civil rights usually means defending some of the worst people that exist, and most aren't actually willing to do that.
- Reminds me of that guy who drove kkk members to meetings, he had a collection of kkk uniforms he was given as his friends quit. I cant remember his name, he was a guitarist or bassist I think. He stood for thier rights of free speech and ended up changing thier minds.

Milk is delicious

I am the milkman.
My milk is delicious.
Special Delivery coming up!
UUAAAAANGHHH!
Explosion Sounds
Warm or cold because I need to know if I should violently disagree
- Warm milk is repulsive.
Best glass of milk I had was at the top of Tokyo tower, filled with ice.

Despite the major problems with modern society I think we're still living in the best age in human history so far.

but it could be better!
- Absolutely, and we should keep fighting to make it better. I think we should look at how things have improved over the centuries as inspiration that we can make things better and it's not hopeless.
We do, everything is safer than ever before.
Climate change, however, will kill loads of us.

For the most part I do enjoy my job and have spent time with my manager outside of work just because we enjoy each other's company.

Dude, I love my job. I mean, I spent 20 years working jobs I hated before I figured out why I hated working them, then found something that fit into the pigeonhole of all the parts I wanted, but once I did all that, yeah, it's the best

The problem with democracy is, too many people are allowed to attend.

The actual problem is that most people don't show up.
Edit: sorry for the long ass comment that you never asked for lmao
The problem with democracy is when you try to put too many people under the same democracy.
All the happiest, least corrupt, highest educated places in the world are small democratic nations.
I understand that this might be an oversimplification, they also tend to be rich, old, and have access to natural resources. You can't just say "local government!" As a magic spell in the middle of the desert and solve everyone's problems in a swoop.
On the other hand, maybe they're rich and old because small nations work well.
In any case, the point still stands. If we were inventing democracy from the ground up today, and one man suggested that the best way to go about it would be for him to lead 330 million people spread across 4 different timezones, from mountainous and snowy areas to scorching desserts, people would probably put him on the list of people to never put in power. Because that's fucking insane. But that's how it ended up working. So then we've had to try to shoehorn in an entire bureaucracy of an institution behind that insane idea to somehow make this work for everyone. A huge, tangled mess of trying to be representative of the rural farmer with little education, the homeless in New York, and the actors in Hollywood all at the exact same time. People who will in all likelihood never cross paths, but will now all be forced in to the same marmelade jar. And then we just hope for the best?
I think it wouldnt take long for someone to instead suggest that maybe we should group people into more natural sections of people who live in the same area and generally need the same thing. And then make it work within that area.
I realize there are state laws and governments, which is good! I just think we need more of it. And more authority and independence to the local governments. Because we are putting entirely too much stock in one cake figure guy for anyone's good.
I also believe other, huge nations would benefit from the same treatment.
The problem too is that too many people are too uneducated
There should be a legal minimum limit on the amount of education someone has to be able to vote. That education must include how to read and understand bullshit, how to see facts

Not only was Deckard a replicant, he was a replicant uploaded with memories of Gaff, the character played by Edward James Olmos.

Gaff was an injured in the leg when responding to the original break-in at the Tyrell Corporation. One replicant got fried going through an electric fence, but a mistake in the script miscounted and there is one extra unexplained replicant that is never mentioned.

It is my firm belief that that captured replicant was programmed with Gaffs memories and tasked with finishing Gaffs mission, while Gaff himself had to act as a chaperone. And he's pretty pissed off about it because everyone seems to think this replicant can "do a man's work", as he says at the end of the film.

People should not be ostracized or even punished for liking fictional stuff. Yes, i am talking about Lolicon/Shotacon.

Mathematics is a specialised branch of philosophy - and there is (probably) more than one valid kind.

I think maths is pure logic, an abstraction of basic truths. Like if you put two things in a bag, and put three more things in there, there are now five things in the bag. I don't think there are other valid answers. Can you explain what about it makes you think it's a form of philosophy?
- The intuitionists argue that mathematics precedes logic, whereas Hilbert and his followers (their position being Platonism today) argue as you do (mathematics has its roots in logic).
  Both branches of mathematics disagree on basic logical principles (for a Platonist "A or Not(A)" is universally true, but for an Intuitionist it is provably false in some instances). This leads to simple properties such as trichotomy on the reals (given any number, it is <0, =0, >0) failing for intuitionism but being valued for the Platonist.
  Godel's incompleteness essentially tells us we can never know which position is "the right one", as no system can prove it's own consistency (i.e no system can ensure itself will never lead to a false result).
  Both are acknowledged as consistent systems with respect to one another within academic journals. It is very much a matter of philosophy as to which one is accepted as true.
- If you put two things in a bag, and put three more things in there, there are now five things in the bag. I don't think there are other valid answers.
  Math starts from that basic simple assumption. Then it can slowly dog-paddle into the weird end of the pool that blurs the line into philosophy or epistemology.
  "If I have five things in the bag and I cut one in half, do I now have six things in the bag? What if cut one of them infinity times? Are there any exceptions in which two plus three may NOT equal five or fifteen times twenty may NOT equal three hundred? In either case, how do I prove it? Can I prove it in 24 dimensions?"
  But yeah, even when exploring new math, it's still like a numerical story that's writing itself, as if the mathematician is taking dictation, as opposed to making stuff up, because then the math doesn't work.
  If Newton and Leibnitz had not come up with calculus, somebody else would have, and sooner rather than later, conditions were ripe for a tool exactly like calculus to be useful. And it would have ended up looking exactly the same.
  Is this ALWAYS the case? Is there any math that is purely creative? Can there be any math like this? Maybe the academic world is rife with this sort of thing, and I simply don't know about it.
- Math is generally pure logic, but based upon arbitrary rules or unproven assumptions. In your example you assume the bag is empty and that it can hold at least 5 things.
  For example, Euclidean geometry is based on the concepts of points, lines, and planes. All of those are assumed to exist as defined with no proof.
  In a similar vein, philosophy generally defines a base assumption as true and works from there to form a framework.
Philosophy tries to be strong like math but it uses words which introduces gaps and ambiguity. Also, math has fewer men with pony tails.
I'd say its Mord a Form if deductive reasoning tbh
What do you mean precisely? There's a ton of different "kinds" of mathematics. So I'm not sure I follow what you're getting at.
Are you saying that it is philosophical which axiom sets we choose? There are alternatives to ZFC. Some have been shown to be as consistent as ZFC.
So if that's what you're saying, I would have to agree.
- That is indeed the case yes!

Almost nobody knows what Zionism is. The idf /= Zionism. All it takes is looking at the first result for when you search for "what is Zionism"

god i got really confused for a second because i thought you were divide assignmenting the idf by zionism
https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/operator_assignment
- I typed that on a phone so I couldn't type the does not equal sign On a separate note, thank you Lemmy, I completely understand this comment thanks to you
Honestly until this Palestine situation, I didn't know what Zionism was. It was always just one of those terms that got defined as "anyone I don't like" and it just kinda faded into a mental blindspot whenever I saw it.

Spaghetti sucks, no matter who makes it. it's like adult baby food, but worse than actual baby food.

Follow up: burritos suck too

I can vibe with you on spaghetti - I dig it but you're probably not as wrong as you think.
Burritos however... my brother or sister in Christ, you pick what goes in them. If they suck you need to up your ingredient game. Simple as.
- Their only experience with burritos is chipotle and taco bell.
- Indeed.
I disagree with your opinion but I will fight to the death to defend your right to express it
I hate the way it smells.

TES4: Oblivion fucking sucks. It's the worst title in recent Elder Scrolls history. Clunky, waxy, ugly, awkward, and looks like an early prototype of Shrek 1. There's always a clash between Morrowind vs. Skyrim, but I tell you... It's Oblivion that sucks the fat dick between the two.

I feel like three of your complaints are graphical when Morrowind and Skyrim are quite ugly. But where Oblivion can get really annoying to me is the level scaling and how enemies become walls of health as you level.
- The scaling is fine if you understand how the leveling system works. The leveling system does suck though, and it's removal in skyrim is a big improvement. It's very tedious to manage your leveling to make sure you use enough minor skills per level.
i disagree that it’s ugly, i think it has an incredibly charming UI and generally very cartoony bright colors. to me it feels very bright fantasy-esque. HOWEVER the characters totally look like shrek, fast travel to any city being free from the second you create your character is a huge flaw that ruins immersion, and i can’t get past the fucking early main quest where you get back out of the first portal and then have to fight 7000 guards because it’s so clunky, so i never did the main quest.
- Should've made the fast travel like Elite Dangerous, it's faster than just walking however there's potential to be ambushed on your way.
I hate you for saying this about my favorite game, but you did your job so enjoy your upvote
The RPG mechanics (mostly because of scaling) and combat blow ass, but it's fun to speed run. I highly recommend anyone who's interested try to learn Any%, because it's such a short and easy run. The bulk of the run is actually just getting out of the tutorial.
You learn 1 trick to pass through walls and basically just walk to a trigger that sends you to the end of the game. You could probably learn it and get good at it in about a half hour. It's probably one of the easiest games to get a respectable position on the speedrun.com leaderboards.

I exist

My condolences
I beg to differ. You could be a bot
- Is there such a thing as AI existential crisis algorithm?

Capitalism has done more for everyone on this planet than communism ever will.

That's just a plain truth.
Yes, capitalism has a lot of severe issues that should be addressed, but it's still loads better than communism

People who complain about 24h news networks often consume too much news themselves.

Alien Ant Farm's "Smooth Criminal" is best version.

Being against hate speech is egalitarian, because it gives people a voice who would be threatened by that hate speech.

SpongeBob is the sodium polyacrylate pad of bikini bottom.

Hmm, I always thought he was a biodegradable cellulose fiber pad.
- No way, he can hold more water than his actual volume!

Eating ass should be a mainstream sex move like eating pussy or sucking dick.

but its where the poop comes from
Edit: for guys i mean. obv girls dont poop
No thats my thing and I won't stand for it becoming mainstream 😤
Love eating ass!
- Ass loves you eating it.

I can't stand coffee. It smells skunky to me, and it tastes bad. It's probably a genetic quirk of mine. But as a result I don't get the hype for it, and I sometimes wonder if some people just like it because it's cool to like it.

It's definitely an acquired taste, I assume that if you get hooked on it, you start to associate the taste with getting stimulated which makes it seem pleasant.
Having said that, I don't drink coffee (tastes awful unless it's drowned in milk and sugar at which point what's the point), but the smell is heavenly, and I like coffee flavour in cakes/desserts.
And I say this having tasted some of the best espresso known to man - my closest friend is obsessed and has equipment worth thousands, and we've sampled great coffee places including in Italy.
- I've tried drinking it many times. In fact I used to drink it a bit when I was a teen, but the taste was "meh" to me and I was getting stomach cramps when I drank it. So I stopped. And over the years since then the smell has just got more and more skunky and unpleasant to me.
  I don't even like coffee flavored chocolates or foods because of my dislike for the taste of coffee. I put up with the smell of the drink for my wife's sake (because she loves coffee). But sometimes it gets so over-powering to me that I just quietly go to another room.
  I really think it's something in my active genes that causes my dislike of coffee. Like my body thinks it's poisonous or something.
It also makes your breath smell for you, your friends and your colleagues.
Pee smells different too, but that's less of a dealbreaker.

"Believe all women" has had devastating consequences on women who have been raped or sexually assaulted.

"Defund the police" actually hurts POC and lower-income communities the most, because the rich just hire their own.

Everyone is all uppity about climate change, but what's going to kill us first is deforestation and the overuse of agricultural practices. It takes about 100 years for soil to replenish nutrients. It takes 200-400 years for new soil to be created if left alone. We're fucked.

- This is what you asked before you deleted you comment:
  Where have any police been defudned? Unless you mean the negative impacts are from cops having hurt feelings?
  Here's a few:
  Austin: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/13/austin-city-council-cut-police-budget-defund/
  Baltimore: https://www.wbaltv.com/amp/article/defund-polce-baltimore-city/32868909
  Boston: https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/14/boston-city-council-approves-4-2b-budget-with-31m-in-police-cuts/
  Burlington: https://www.wcax.com/2020/12/11/facing-defunding-mandate-burlington-police-propose-eliminating-midnight-shift/
  These are just a few of many.
What's the believe all women thing? I haven't heard that phrase before.
- "Believe all women" was a popular slogan that arose from the Me Too movement, and is part of why it petered out the way it did. The thought behind it was that these crimes were so heinous, no woman would dare to lie about being assaulted or raped. The push was to socially and legally punish these men who were accused without the usual evidence hats required.
  While eventually, the legal system did work out to find the truth, socially, these men were crucified.
  It was painfully obvious to anyone not trying to push an agenda that women lie just as often as men do, and while it's true that MOST of us don't lie about such heinous things, some of us absolutely will, for the attention, revenge, or both.
  Look up Mattress Girl, shes one of the more famous ones. Lied for the attention and the grade.

I honestly cannot think of anything. Even my "hottest takes" aren't that unreasonable tbh.

Down with doctorcrimson!! Even his hot takes are reasonable! Down with him and his provably-pointless existence!!
There, solved it for you.

Most of us like to believe that they have earned what they have but instead we're all fragile burdens on society who contribute nothing at all so we cling to spaces where we can be intellectually superior amongst a group of our currently selected peers to justify our parasitic existence. A lot of kind people gave us everything we have and we do not acknowledge them and we fail them everyday.

Your life is more than your contributions ❤️.
- I don't think that's what they meant by "earned". I think they mean earn like in a survival sense, like in caveman times I "earn" my meal by killing the deer out in the woods, taking it back home, and cooking it.
This seems needlessly pessimistic. For one thing, sharing and giving resources is innate in humans, we have to have that instinct to at least raise our young and the instinct obviously extends further than that. For another thing, we may be given a lot but if someone produces excess (and in our society we have the ability to produce an abundance of a lot of things) what else are they to do with the excess? Especially if everyone around them is giving their excess away too.

Oh another one!

Disney and other people and corporations SHOULD be able to indefinitely own their IP as long as content is being made. Nothing of social ital value has been lost because of copyright duration.

Why would I even want to live in a world where I can't monetize my Minnie/Goofy/Donald gangbang porn?
How can we know if anything of value has been lost?
- 🤷‍♂️ points to the endless garbage pile of fan fiction
  Do you envision some hybrid to kill a mocking bird rewrite that was close enough to the original they got sued?
  I just feel like out every time since I've said this on random threads every few months or so when it pops up some one could point out an example.
No, at some point, if it becomes popular enough, you lose ownership & it becomes the people’s. That is the goal, and I guess the risk, of your IP becoming that influential.
- Nah, that's dumb (and not how it works).
  Nothing of value has been hidden away by Disney.

Switching to Linux is more trouble than it's worth.

This was definitely true a few years ago. Nowadays, with the right distro not so much imho.
Definitely true for some peoole. (Though before I switched to Linux, I couldn't have guessed how valuable it has now become to me and would have thought the same thing...)
20 years ago that was true for most people (not me), 10 years ago it was sort of true, today it's not really true anymore as o ly very specific vendors of widely used software (hello adobe) are still being a dick. Most packages work natively, have alternatives that work perfectly fine, or work through wine and worst case, through a virtual machine.
Those are the cons, the pros list is having a much safer and more stable machine, no more Microsoft spyware bullshit, no more Microsoft update bullshit, etc etc etc..

My comment history

Every Halo game (including the first one or whichever one fanboys say is the best) is trash. They always have been.

What games do you like
- inb4 "CoD"

Years ago there was a guy running for president in Mexico who proposed chopping off the hands of people who steal, rob, etc. I agree.

I hate vtubers but love the clips from their streams that pop up in my YouTube shorts

I don't mind people using AI avatars instead of webcams, but what I can't stand is people doing that anime girl voice. I'm a huge weeb but good lord does that voice make me cringe
- Same! I literally started reading only manga because I fucking hate that high pitch Alvin and the chipmunks voice.

Amazing Digital Circus (and most other "long form" internet animations for that matter) are not good. most of them were made to just service internet fandoms, usually not funny relying on very very cheap existential or sex jokes, bad story and plot, and commercialized to death with plushies and merch and patreon and all kinds of donating links.

Sounds like Futurama

They should kill each other off in the Gaza Strip so we can give the land to refugees who then start over, will make it their home and live in peace with each other.

In any situation like this the only rule should be that they have to wear simple cloth tunics and only carry 6 inch knives.
If you want to clear out an opposing force you have to get up close and personal. No relying on the technology that lets you step away from the battlefield and dehumanize your "enemy" while also taking away all your own risk.
Wow, genocide meets enlightened centrism. Good take, given the thread.
Ah, Isreal's end game from day one...
- Israel want to destroy themselves? That's new to me

No one is right in the Israel-Gaza conflict and I feel like many of the pro-palestine people's ideals are closer to those of nazi's than the ideals of all the people they're calling nazi's.

Yes, except the Israeli government are the ones creating ghettos, actively stealing land and ethnic cleansing.
Neither Hamas or the state of Israel are good, or right, but one of these two has put way more points on the board over the last half century, and it ain't Hamas.
Hamas is the result of Isreal's brutality, not the cause.
Both sides suck. But ethnic cleansing is no bueno.
I can see this, except the last point. Like just to start with, to assume Hamas is worse, IMO, only makes sense if you think it started on Oct 7th.
Like we watch Jim hit Greg
So Greg hits Jim
Obviously, Jim is the issue........
Except Greg has hit Jim every day for the last month. Every now and then Jim would do something to try and defend himself, or even attempt to fight back a bit, but Greg always won. Yet now we are cheering for Greg? Doesn't make sense.
"But Hamas went after cutizens!"
Isreal has always gone after citizens. But sure, let's go for scale.
Greg hits Jim every day for the last month.
Jim finally hits Greg
Greg takes a rusty shank to Jim's neck
Jim is clearly worse than Greg.
"That's exageration!"
Isreal has killed thousands of children, and openly thinks its great, and wants to kill even more. They actively are still targeting civilians.
But in timeliness and scale, Isreal is clearly the worst of the two. That doesn't mean I support Hamas and them targeting the music festival. But I dont support Isreal openly committing war crimes, and saying they don't give a fuck and will continue to do so. No one deserves shit like white phosphorus. Especially children who have nothing to do with this.
Palestinians wanting an end to segregation, occupation, and genocide are right. 🤷

meth should be legal and should be treated like coffee

What do you mean by treated like coffee? Like given out for free in the lobby of a car dealership, freely available at many work sites, or what? I can support legalizing amd controlling substances, but I really don't want them used at work nor while using heavy machinary (cars included). I have been around to many people on coke and/or meth to know it isn't a good idea to be driving a vehicle.
- I mean given out in shops, no registration, nothing. Sold with no regulation.

Convicted and proven pedophiles, rapists, and animal abusers deserve capital pumishment, or prolonged torture.

Okay, I'll go ahead and stir this pot. How close to 100% sure do you think is acceptable to be to convict someone if this is the punishment, and, are you comfortable with that one in a million person being you? I agree that a true violator of the above is not worth the resources to keep them alive, but consider that planted photographs, or a false rape claim by a crazy or vindictive person could see you being slowly skinned alive with vise grips over the course of 24 hours.
Edit: Green Day's Boulevard of Broken Dreams is playing on a loop at any audible volume the whole time.
- The government just shouldn't have the right to kill its citizens. Because the government is not flawless and even one mistaken murder is too many. And when someone is put to death when not having committed any crime, it is murder.
- This is why I specified proven, as in without a doubt, with real evidence. I'll never back down from my views on this as a victim of crime.
I can only agree with the pedophiles. Rapists & animal abusers can still be used.

Hitler thought he was doing a good thing for the world.

I don't think he thought along lines of good or bad or evil at all. He noticed that he had a knack for firing people up, first in conversations, then in speeches, etc. Like any power hungry ego maniac he simply kept doing it and kept succeeding through an endless string of insanely unlikely circumstances. I'd bet a good 30% of the population would follow the exact same path, given those circumstances / opportunities.
He wanted infinite power, because he was likely infinitely afraid of the world. He never once thought about what's good or bad. He only thought about how to get more power and how to maintain it. The inevitable conclusion to that game is always world domination with a bunch of genocide mixed in. You can see the patterns arising everywhere at the moment.
- Why are you talking about Trump when this thread is about Hitler?

We should kill all known nazis and pedophiles, and it wouldnt even be that hard to find them.

"We should kill all _____" kind of sounds like something a Nazi would say.
- Especially since no one can agree on what that word covers. I've heard people say all Republicans are nazis.
- Well, would you rather kill the man who killed 6 million jews or be apart if the cause that killed 6 million jews?
There is a huge grey area here, for both cases:
What about pedophiles that don't act on it, and want to seek help?
What about indoctrination, for both sides? Some people grow up with nazis, or take the views of their community. The same goes for people that go through extreme grooming.
What is the point of prison if you do not believe in reform? In a place where people that touch kids or harm women are basically "stab on sight", what hope is there of reform?
I think both need extensive research, and need to be treated for what they are - extreme mental illnesses. Those that act on their delusions should be punished by the law, but those that seek change should be rehabilitated where possible.
- And I don't disagree with that, what I think should be done is those who wish to change that part of themselves or truly question if what they support is wrong should seek help and be rehabilitated. But as for those who show no mercy or guilt in any capacity should be killed and/or locked away forever. What should be done is separation of reform and jail because we are treating jail as both a place you will never escape and a place where if you improve you can leave.
Maybe just throwing them in jail would be better. If you want to prevent them from continuing, just getting them out of society would be easier and more likely to catch on.
- Except when it literally doesn't work. Take Mr swirl, for example, a pedophile who struck in multiple countries and was only in jail for 15 years.

People who complain about YouTube blocking ad blockers are entitled, pathetic children whose parents never told them "no."

I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't do such a god awful job with ads. Both doing a poor job with when they inject them and treating creators like shit.
Do you mind explaining why? It just seems kind of random...
- It was fresh on my mind from earlier and my blood was still pumping. Here's my thinking, though. I've been using uOrigin with great success. Never saw any ads on YouTube. One day I get a notice from YouTube letting me know that using adblocking is against their ToS and that I can only watch three more videos ad-free. "Well, that sucks. Guess I'm getting ads now." Since then, my usage of YouTube has dropped DRAMATICALLY. I barely use it anymore. That's how I'm protesting. I'm not saying that anything that appears on my screen is subject to MY ToS (I'm choosing to visit their site), I'm not saying that they have no right to force ads on us, and I'm not saying that I'm entitled to free content. All I'm saying is that YouTube can conduct itself how it best sees fit; if I don't like it, I'm by no means obliged to continue using their service. That, I feel, is the best way to let your voice be heard -- vote with your clicks, especially when it comes to a non-vital. YouTube's a for-profit company, so of course they're in the business of making money. They may be the biggest in the game, but unless there are extenuating circumstances, no one is required to use them. I may be missing some nuances, but this is more or less how I see it. Don't like it? Don't use it.
  I've since discovered that I can browse YouTube ad-free indefinitely by going in cognito.
I don't complain about Youtubes shenanigans.
I just use Firefox and uBlock origin, which works perfectly.
Why would I complain?
- Same here.
  Your life is otherwise empty. (I'm not at all saying your life is empty, but that would be a reason that you would complain.)

Death penalty has no punitive value (it does not deter crime more than other punishments), it is purely manifestation of our sense of vengeance.
https://www.theadvocatesforhumanrights.org/News/A/Index?id=39
- Who said anything about being a deterrent? I don't know about your experience but vengeance is sweet as fuck and why would I want to pay for someone to live their life if they are never leaving? I think I'm doing good with this topic, why y'all hating??
- Also it is irreversible, expensive and gruesome. It should not exist in a democratic nation.
"We should go ahead and have a WW3" is what you just said.
- I like the sound of that Jimbo
What the actual fuck, this is bikini bottom