'Did I Miss Something?': Online Shoppers Shocked as Trump Tariffs Jack Up Prices 145%
'Did I Miss Something?': Online Shoppers Shocked as Trump Tariffs Jack Up Prices 145%
Americans are dumb as fuck
Yup.
Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I'm surrounded by fucking morons. And I'm not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.
Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren't generally gonna get better. Can't have a good society if it's overflowing with dipshits.
We don't have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.
The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you're dumb as fuck too.
Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren't straight up clown shows, more human rights.
You've successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol' US of A. As is evident.
Just accept it. We have free healthcare for 50 years.
Yeah, he made a huge mistake.
Its merely that most Americans are dumb as fuck.
I mean. Many countries are still resisting to the right-wing authoritarian push. Canada for example. Americans democratically elected dt, even after he tried to overturn the government and explicitly stated that he would be a dictator. I don't think that would have been possible in any other country. So yeah, in a sens, Americans are dumb af. Now if you want to make it semantic question, I guess he should have written " a majority" of Americans "electors" are dumb, but it's kind of implicit IMO. Kind of like saying dogs likes to run, obviously there's probably some that don't like to run, but the majority does.
oh boy, you really showed them!
This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.
There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.
Indeed, add in all the religious meddling in educational curriculum and you've got a recipie for an ignorant population.
Ignorance knows no bounds 🙄
Is this "nottheonion"? I cant believe that people are so oblivious.
"Did Biden drop out" was trending on Google on election day. We're cooked.
Every person's media bubble is tuned to them. If they're disinterested in politics their algorithm will steer them right away from all the troubles that were abundantly aware of.
And if they’re into politics, it will be a bubble as well. Not even left/right. It’s a bubble of your specific flavor of politics/humor. Because also political discussion and humor go hand in hand now at all times, apparently.
I wish I was in a place were I had no idea what was going on. I'm just twitching when I think about Republicans sending people to concentration camps with out charges or trial. That just means everyone is just sheep to be plucked. We are now just living on luck.
federal despotism
You are very out of the loop. Let me fill you in.
deporting immigrants without ID and asking them to re-enter the country when they have the proper papers.
This is not correct. Currently the trump admin is capriciously revoking student visas and then snatching students off the streets. They are also snatching people at their immigration court hearing. They are effectively abducting and removing people from the US without due process.
sending MS13 gang members to a prison in El Salvado
This is not correct. Currently the Trump admin has declared TdA (a Venezuelan street gang) as an enemy nation of the United States, and they are using this justification to send people to a torture prison outside the US, without due process, on the basis that these people are gang member because of weak "evidence" such as an Autism Awareness tattoo, or a lack of criminal record. Last I heard, at least 75% of the people sent to the extra-national torture prison have no criminal record at all.
making immature/rash economic policies as collateral for speeding up foreign affairs.
This is partially correct. The trump admin is making rash economic policies, but it is not speeding up foreign affairs. Multiple countries have sent delegations to the US to establish new trade policies, and have reported back that the US cannot plainly state what their current trade grievances are, or what deal they want to fix resolve them. Trump has flip-flopped (sometimes in the same sentence) about whether or not the tariffs are negotiable.
the officials who are being deposed/suspended were being irresponsible, and not doing the job/role they’re paid by the public to perform.
This is mostly incorrect. While firing enough people will get rid of underperformers, the trump admin has cut people in charge of; preventing food and medicine contamination, investigsting fraudulent business practices, monitoring and disbursing federal aid, and even the people who are required to to fire/layoff the people they are firing. This list is not comprehensive.
for DOGE (probably out of context, but I’ll still say), they’re just digitizing processes of record keeping in governance. They had issues starting out because they where recklessly trying to map out the system by pulling random plugs and flicking switches to see what they were working with. I’d expect that when they finish, they’d add redundancies so whoever maintains the system after them has the divide of testing and production servers.
This is incorrect. As it operates, DOGE's entire task is to reduce the US government's benefits to the majority of it's citizens, shield billionaires and trump allies from liability, and transfer wealth from regular citizens to billionaires and trump allies.
DOGE has consistently overstated it's "savings" by factors of up to 1000%. Most of the "actual" savings come from cutting contracts and services, which just shifts the burden of those necessary services to individuals and states. They are not rewriting the software the US Govt. uses, their team doesn't even grasp simple database concepts. DOGE workers have demanded super-admin account to government systems, and minutes after those permissions were granted, logins using valid credentials from adversarial nations were detected. Based on this info, DOGE is either woefully inept, or horribly corrupt, or (most likely) both. The primary targets of DOGE cuts are institutions that either had, or could, investigate and hold billionaire accountable for tax dodging, anti-consumer practices, environmental damage, privacy violation, ignoring workers rights and safety, and much much more. They have been working overtime to dismantle the already weak protections the common man has from American oligarchs.
TLDR: whatever news sources you are reliant on are either directly peddling disinfo to you, or they are hiding/underreporting critical details of current events, and you should look elsewhere for your news.
You’ll just eat up anything they tell you won’t you?
How does it make you feel that you’ve bought the propaganda? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’ve been duped, and not that you know the truth but are still spreading lies.
I also know you aren’t going to believe that you’ve been fooled. It’s a sad sad reality. You’ll believe anything that confirms you are smart, and deny anything that confirms you are wrong.
Fuck if only you had all of the world’s information at your fingertips. Maybe through some device like a phone or computer. Possibly on something called the “ World Wide Web”.
I’m sure once something like that exist you’ll be able to search for answers yourself. Or you can just fuck off to newsmax like you have been doing.
You seem to be willfully ignorant, I assume you are talking out of your ass in bad faith.
Deporting legal immigrants with proper documentation has happened already.
Deporting valid visa holders after cancelling a visa for no clear reason has happened.
Tarrifs have been instated, removed, reinstated, and modified based on whims of the president.
Judges made legal decisions, which is their job, and we're subsequently harassed by ICE.
DOGE has done irreparable harm to the well established, decades old infrastructure that the country runs on. Because of their decisions, top-level scientists are fleeing the country, programs to help people around the world and project US power have been dissolved with no warning, and institutions across the country have been thrown into disarray. There is no indication that the individuals involved know what they are breaking or have any plan to repair it.
If you are, in fact, living under a rock, then looking into all of these things might be a good start. You might then want to look into the history of Nazi Germany in the mid 1930's to see how they destroyed democracy back then, and see how things happening now mirror what was happening then.
That's a lot of apologetics for Trump for someone who claims to be lost. Your framing is also full of misinfo. So I am guessing you are trolling.
Theyre deporting anyone they thing is an illegal without due process.
Their means to identify ms13 don't seem robust, and it seems like they conclude tattoos=ms13
Making rash economic policies, at your expense, while being dishonest about the origin of increased prices or who picks up the tab for it (us)
Doge is doing way more than you're thinking, in a much worse way. The idea of "go fast and break things" isn't good to do on no-fail government systems. Doge also appears to be targeting musks adversaries in the government that he thinks are holding back his goals. Or which he's been investigated or regulated by
This article may be useful to read, and explains how a whistleblower at the NLRB describes how Doge operates and how data integrity and security are compromised.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/doge-workers-code-supports-nlrb-whistleblower/
You can't possibly be this naive.
sending MS13 gang members to a prison in El Salvador.
Sending people they have claimed without evidence are MS13 gang members to a “prison” (torture murder facility - you look at the Google earth images of what looks like a puddle of blood by the facility and the fact that they’ve confirmed something like 100 people died there last year, that there is no release, and that they’re cramming people into such small living spaces the EU would consider it unethical for transporting livestock and tell me what you think)
The overcrowding is excessive to international standards and the access to toilets and other hygiene clearly seem to be limited. But those conditions seem better, in the sense that in other prisons we have seen testimonies of prisoners taking turns standing and lying down due to overcrowding.
Skin disease is rampant. It's more likely that prisoners in the other prisons have scabies on their skin or even signs of physical abuse than the tattoos that you see in the images that are often projected from CECOT.
I also read an account from a doctor that worked there that inmates with conditions like diabetes are not given their medication. That people are beaten upon arrival, to the point that some die. That people experiencing medical crises in the cells are ignored, left to die until the guards pick up the body the next day.
Even if everyone there was a gang member (there’s no due process in El Salvador, and there hasn’t been due process with the people we’ve been sending there) - that’s not how human beings should be treated.
2 hour old account
C'mon at least try
For DOGE, it's much, much worse than that. In many government agencies, they seem to have installed Starlink-based back doors directly into critical systems. I would not be surprised at all to find out in a few years that foreign agents have thoroughly infiltrated Starlink (perhaps even on invitation from Elon), and every piece of classified and confidential information that DOGE siphoned away is in foreign hands.
The biggest intel breach in history, perpetrated by the President's main advisor.
This is a very brief, very incomplete list but from what has been reported so far they are
This is without mentioning what they are doing to infringe on voting rights, redistribute more wealth to the very richest, reduce protections for minorities and strengthen systematic discrimination, and otherwise dismantling democracy at large.
145% isn't even accurate because that's just on the cost of the good. You then have to figure in retailer margin, seller margin etc. Most MSRPs will be 300% of what they were to keep those the same as before.
Not really. If they keep the same % based on what it costs them, then it should increase by the same amount.
If they instead get the same amount (which would effectively mean reduce their margins) the final cost would be a bit less.
Happy to be corrected with some numerical example.
So if you see any price increase greater than the tariff amount, it's plain corporate greed.
I think "corporate greed" is a good explanation for pretty much all our problems.
Less if anything.
You buy something from China for $100. Add packing, staff costs and delivery and you sell it retail for say $200. A nice healthy profit margin.
Now you add the 145%, so it costs $245 from China. None of the rest of it will cost you more. Still an extra $100, for $345 total.
The retail customer pays an extra (345/200=) 72.5% instead.
It's a lot, but not 145%.
So if your retail price goes up by 145% or more, they either weren't making a lot of profit before, or they're greedy bastards.
Oh no! I guess they'll have to get their cheap Chinese knock-off crap from Good American Sources.
Seriously though, even if the tariffs were reduced pre-loony-President levels tomorrow, no-one's gonna trust that being permanent.
At good American local prices. Hey, can't pay the workers any less so I guess product prices have to go up at the source. Oh wellll.
Good american sources
Yeah... About that...
Did I miss something?
Jesus fucking Christ yes
Nooo, not the fascist i'm voting for... There must be something else i'm missing
A Lemmy post about an article about a Reddit post. The internet feels more and more incestuous every day.
I responded to a question on Reddit that I am knowledgeable of to make an educated guess. Then, it turns out OP is a journalist and asked me if he could quote me. But I declined because even though I know the topic well enough, I am not an expert and don't have the credentials to show for. I mean, I could have allowed OP to quote me and feed my ego, but I don't want to sow misinformation if I am wrong. And besides, being quoted with my then strange username will make the article strange.
Yeah, journalism is getting lazier and lazier.
Journalism is dead because Sinclair has been gobbling up local news.
Check to see who your local news outlet is - several of mine are owned by like Missouri’s retirement fund or something.
I realized journalism was truly dead a few years back when I noticed that most news articles online are just a bunch of Twitter posts talking about the headline. I fantasize about writing a movie where Edward R. Murrow comes back from the dead as a demon and just goes around slaughtering lazy journalists, which forces other journalists to actually do their fucking jobs.
Wait until you see the price of groceries in a few short weeks because no one is around to do the processing. Fuck toilet paper shortages and being locked in your home all day because complete incompetence, we had to go for round two of how Trump is going to tap dance around super hard stuff.
Okay Republicans. Do something other than screaming about it's all unfair. Do something other than pointing at people and screaming hate. Do something or this thing you have complete control of isn't going to have food in about three months.
"we've shut down the entire mechanism of government and it's still not working and we're all out of ideas!"
"ok, time to blame our shocking lack of incompetence on a vulnerable group we can stoke xenophobia against!"
Now the stupid ones can 'figure' it out.
Or do their own research to figure out why everything is so expensive.
Their own reasearch will be to see what the orange tumor says. He will say its liberal gay immigrants.
Yes. They missed the part where they specifically and repeatedly said they were going to do this. Because American voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.
My sister voted for Trump, only learned after the fact, because of "the inflation" so I asked her how she tough the tariffs would help on that. Her answer? "What do you mean, what are tariffs?" A little too late I send her a youtube video about Tariffs and Trump and she was like wtf. She lives in California, so it's not like she helped him win, but I'm going to keep a tab on her before elections.
This is what the democratic party has to learn. Your sister is a sizable representation of the electorate. They have no goddamn idea how anything works. They voted purely based on vibes. You have to capture the terminally unengaged and uninformed voters if you want to be able to stay in power.
Ah, because of the famous inflation dial in the US president's office which Biden kept cranked up for shits and giggles. Well known fact.
its low information voters that mostly voted for him besides the incels/joe roegan people.
She sounds like a single issue voter.
Thats really the biggest problem. People not looking at the whole candidate.
How do these people function in daily life? It’s baffling.
A sea sponge at least absorbs something.
It also doesn't fuck up life for everyone else on the planet, which is a boon.
Hey, man, don't insult the sea sponge.
SpongeBob.
You didn't miss anything, you're just getting what you voted for.
I guess Democracy is allowing voters to shoot themselves in the foot an then letting them wonder what happened.
This is how it ends.
"Did I miss something?"
No, you intentionally avoided listening to what we were telling you.
I’m not totally convinced that a huge swath of trump voters ever heard any alternatives to the propaganda that lead them to believe tariffs=good. Like i imagine a ton of them are structurally isolated from hearing alternatives the way social media and television works
One mistake Temu is making is showing it as "Import fees". That's correct of course, but they should label it specifically as "Import tariffs" or "Tariffs", so that it's clear what this is. From the comments in the linked reddit threads, a lot of people just think they're extra fees Temu is voluntarily putting on as retaliation, their brains still aren't making the link between "import fees" and "trump's tariffs on China".
There are some brave businesses around here that have started posting signs.
"Due to tariffs, we've had to raise our prices."
I'm in the Deep South, I bet by end of week I see a place charging "Fuck China" surcharges.
Digikey an electronics parts site has it listed on their stuff now.
import tax
"Trump Tariff"
Donald J Trump is a liar, rapist, cheat and a lousy business man that has failed every single business, and Americans voted in this useless excuse for a human being to enforce facism, racism, and colonialism. Well done America.
He bankrupted a casino.
A FUCKING CASINO!
That's like bankrupting a money printer.
Multiple casinos.
I honestly hate that I know so much about this sad excuse for a human.
He will probably manage to that too soon.
The Feds were on the trail of the Russian dirty money being laundered through it.
Twice.
You forgot sexism. There's a non-zero amount of people who simply will never vote for a woman.
and actively worked with russia since the 80s to undermine the USA.
6 times bankruptcy! He’s so bad that after the last one, no western bank would work with him at all. That’s when he went to Russian oligarchs for cashflow, and the rest is history…
6 times bankrupt, bankrupt casinos, 34 felony convictions, WWE Superstar, known Russian agent, coup leader, the list is extensive...but he was on TV a lot. He's perfect. I want him.
if trump had invested in a index fund of his inheritence he would be close to 100bn richer. now hes just prostituting to whoever is richer to give him some money.
It's only just begun. Wait until there are empty shelves at Wal-Mart. MAGA is going to have to work overtime to blame it on Biden.
It's not hard work. They just blame Biden. When you're lying, and everyone knows you're lying, then there's no reason to put effort into the lie. If that doesn't catch on, they'll blame someone else. Zelensky or Xi, or they can always Blame Canada.
The local shipping port was empty yesterday. The last time I saw it that empty was during covid. It is genuinely frightening.
Hehe but there's no freight.
Doesn't matter who they blame.. blame won't fill the shelves.
walmart, the magats go-to for stores.
Can confirm - I track grocery prices every week and the cumulative "Biden inflation" was about 17% over 4 years, or about 4% per year average. Last week was already a 15% yoy increase, and some stuff is legitimately 100% yoy already.
and some stuff is legitimately 100% yoy already.
It's 100% day over day -- or rather, 145% or even 170% day over day -- because that's what happens when you apply a 145 or 170% tariff to it!
“I haven’t been keeping up with news or what’s going on?!?! I have been ordering a lot this past month for my daughters wedding.. did I miss something???”
I mean Jesus TapDancing Christ. You've not been aware of who the president is and what he is doing??? It's not like tariffs haven't been in the news at all. They (along with illegal renditions and other attacks on civil liberties) have been dominating the news cycles since January. I have never been one to ignore news, so even if quite busy with something in life I read headlines at the very least. It confounds me to know some folks ignore news willfully. Some even think of it like it's some twisted badge of honor.
I know head-in-sand people exist, but I am dismayed, baffled and extremely disappointed that they still behave the same when the house is burning down around them. Especially when this ignorance is obviously present in a large block of people in the US.
Please wake the hell up everyone, the house is on fire! (I know I am preaching [venting] to the choir in this venue.)
Are you really that surprised? I regularly see people even on Lemmy talking about how much they wish they could disconnect from everything going on and live a quiet peaceful life in the country. That's essentially what all these people have chosen; they have decided the world is too scary for them and they don't want to process it anymore. Things will continue to get worse for them, and they won't have any idea why.
"Oh I don't pay attention to politics."
Guess what, politics pays fucking attention to you
politics pays fucking attention to you
What was that bullshit propaganda catch-phrase the right-wingers were spewing a while back, to bitch and moan that their abhorrent "values" of bigotry and hate were "under attack?" Oh yeah: "You Will Be Made to Care."
As always, yet fucking again, it was pure projection.
I’ve tried to severely limit my intake since the election and just taken in enough info to have a foundation for context, I don’t need to see 400 alliterations of some doom and gloom headline, but yes, even in this fairly limited scope I’m WELL aware of the tariffs. It’s absolutely willful to be this tuned out
Completely understandable to limit info for mental health reasons and I sometimes feel the same. This isn't that obviously.
Others were posting about possible workarounds, including the idea that perhaps Americans could get things shipped to a third country with lower tariffs as a go-between so that the goods didn’t appear like they were actually coming from China.
Truly maximizing global shipping efficiency...
Sadly and logically, this is transshipment and if done to evade taxes by obfuscating place of origin, it is illegal. From what I heard, US customs does investigate that too, so it's not just an "illegal in theory but nobody enforces it" kind of thing.
dint the trump admin said something about that already, trying to bypass and they will know where its come from.
Sup bitches this is that MAGA you ordered.
Last week, Trump went so far as to claim that Chinese President Xi Jinping had called the White House to negotiate a deal, another claim that Chinese officials deny.
How hard would it be to prank him by spoofing caller ID and pretending to be Xi?
You don't have to spoof it. The fucking idiot answers unknown numbers.
"We've been trying to reach you about your clown-cars extended warranty"
I will never tire of reading articles like this. It's like the nectar of the gods to me.
Yeah chief, there was an election last November. Should have been paying attention.
100% guaranteed these people are of two kinds: Trump voters and Conservative Libertarians
There are many articles on this, and even a book or two. Anyway, I thought you'd get a kick out of it. True fucking story man. Fucking libertarians. 🤦🏻♀️
i hope every fucking 3rd party voter has to choose between rent and eating along with all the pridefully ignorant bumblefuck maga knuckledraggers
edit: LOL i love how the "vOtE 3rD pArTy!!!!" chuds have literally nothing to say anymore--can only downvote.
"i DoNt WaNnA vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe!!!!"
great job, fucko. now we have genocide in gaza AND in america
enjoy your fucking tariffs. and if you're less than 100% white/male/straight/evangelical/republican, then enjoy all the things that go along with being "other" in a fascist state (hint: fucking genocide)
"I know I support the murder of you and your people. But I'm still going to need you to vote for me, so that I can preserve democracy and the economy. You may not live to see it, but the rest of us will really appreciate it."
I know some choices are hard, but my parents aren't around to make them for me anymore, and voting takes so much effort. It doesn't really matter anyway, both sides are exactly the same. I'll just not vote and whomever wins, wins. This is America, I've got inalienable rights, so it won't get that bad.