No tariffs...

- Wow... Just like... Damn girl good for you. She knows what she wants.

Or just don't buy at all.
- That's the reduce part
- But I want a bigger bike :(
  
  build it yourself after that build it for others. eventually later start a new BiggerBike company. profit ... retire.
  
  OK buy secondhand. Or buy junked parts and build it. It's not just eco friendly, it's also fun

I was gonna say, there goes my dream of buying a brand new Honda CB500F. The MSRP is ~$7000 right now. It's gonna skyrocket.
- That is a bit high, but I think it might still be worth it. And Honda's are well made too, so it will last you a good while.
  
  That is a bit high
  Exact MSRP for my area is $6899 with a +$600 "destination fee". Plus taxes.
  but I think it might still be worth it.
  Probably. But see below 👇
  And Honda's are well made too, so it will last you a good while.
  Oh I know, I already have two other Hondas: a modified 2007 Metropolitan (lowered, stretched, some Ruckus parts), and a 1980 XR500. I'm pretty sure my wife would murder me herself if I bought another bike 😂

i keep trying to get secondhand underwear but the upcharge is ridiculous
- Secondhand needles, on the other hand, are free. People just leave them lying about!

When shipping used goods, tariffs, which are taxes on imported goods, are generally calculated as a percentage of the item's value and collected at customs clearance in the foreign port.
Anyways enough being pedantic yes you should absolutely buy used locally to avoid these taxes.

I bought an old motorbike for 5 cases of beer this weekend.
- I'll trade you the motorbike for a red paperclip.
- This
  italics

I can't eat used furniture Steve...
- We're Beavers, how many times do I have to remind you?....
- but you can buy second hand pretzels. just don't expect there to be a lot of salt on them.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCxscU0hWok
- Kinda feel like you just described farming.

One of the best ways to save money is to always buy used. If you look in the right places everything is available.
- Just the other day I found a used condom literally for free just laying on the street!
  
  Hell yeah, just rinse that off in the sink and...

I bought some used hard drives. How else am I supposed to get 3.2TB for $20?

Or, better yet, just give the stuff you don't need to the people interested in getting it, and participate in mutual exchange.
Crush capitalism!
- Posts item for free
  Gets message “how much does this cost?”
  ”Its free”
  ”Can you deliver it to me? (Insert some excuse here)”
  
  That's when you make them pay the shipping + a bit of extra charge for your time since they did asked for price before.
  
  Even if you intend to give it away for free, still price it. Once it's free it will attract a lot of... shady characters. In my experience at least. Even asking a very cheap price will almost eliminate all the weirdos and odd requests. It's like they only search for stuff that's free. When it came to my kid's old toys I ended giving it away for free when they came to pick it up with cash in hand.
  
  Free table - sits out for days
  Put an 100 dollar sign on the table - stolen in 5 minutes
  
  put item on sidewalk with sign that says "free!"
  Item sits there for months
  Remove sign that says free, and replace with one that says "$100 OBO"
  Item is gone by morning
  
  "Unfortunately, no. I currently don't have resources to deliver stuff, but I'll be happy to see you at my place!"
  But yeah, classic on your end :D

I would love to see a source for the actual claim that buying used avoids tarrifs, because all I can find says that tarrifs still apply to used products being imported.
- I think its meant as in: used products already in the country

Yes, but... There are consequences. Used goods will also have price increase if new ones are more expensive.
- Thrift stores are expensive now anyway. Resale shops are worse. Garage sale season is coming up.
  
  Yeah I've seen goodwill selling things for more than they cost at Walmart.
- And eventually , all of the used goods will wear out necessitating new goods.
  Entropies a bitch
  
  Matter Replicator When?
- Buying 2nd hand reduces demand for new goods, which reduces prices in the broad sense.
  
  That's not what happened when demand for used cars skyrocketed a few years ago
  
  But increases demand for used goods means the price increases for them, which means the deal isn't as good so buying new becomes more interesting...
- The only clothing item I buy for durability is boots. All the rest of my clothes are the cheapest possible shit I can find, because it doesn't matter.
  No one on earth can convince me a $60 pair of jeans is worth $60.
  
  No one on earth can convince me a $60 pair of jeans is worth $60.
  $60 has the same buying power thar $30 did just 15 years ago so it might be more helpful to think in living wage hours (where 50 hours of work pays for rent).
  In 2025 average rent is $1650. So a living wage after taxes would be $33. In 2010 it was $890 which means a living wage was $17.
  
  $60 on used denim will go much further.
  Learn to identify higher quality vintage denim and you've begun profiting. Old selvedge will last a lifetime properly cared for, newer denin barely lasts me a couple years with all the spandex in it.
- They already did, but for different reason.
  Second-Hand clothing was trendy not too long ago and the prices went up to the point where the used wares almost cost more than new ones.
  Just keep in mind that everything is a business and will exploit it's current popuarity to the fullest.
- D:
- Depending on the type of product there may be several times the necessary amount already laying around.
  
  Unfortunately places like goodwill will jack up prices. eBay prices tend to go up as well. Other places not as much since they don't usually do market research.
- that's just capitalism

Yes, I will buy secondhand Bell peppers.
- Peppers go well from cuttings and sometimes seeds. Sorta secondhand action there
  
  Yeah we do actually do this with peppers from friends that have more room for growing stuff when it's not -3837473837 degrees outside.
- Grow your own ;)
  
  alas my climate lends itself to little more than carrots and potatoes.
  
  Can always buy fruit and vegetables containing seeds
  Don't know if sterile seeds are legal over there for you americans though

Yes, but fast fashion, fast furniture, etc.
- Fast global warming
- fast furniture
  If you make it from sapient pearwood
  
  Nah, it's chipboard, sometimes with cardboard as filler. My Ikea GAMER desk, while million times better as a desk than what I previously had (an old Polish socks drawer that happened to be at the correct height), it's not very good for anything beyond that, also it's like it's starting to fall apart a bit.

Also, check out your local “buy nothing” groups. Basically the only reason I still have facebook.
- Freecycle
  Nextdoor
  Craigslist
  Marketplace
  Yard sales
  Estate sales
  Thrift stores
  trash cans and dumpsters/ curbs on trash day
  free clothing at the laundromat
  And so many more
  
  free clothing at the laundromat
  Haha, one part of me is wondering if your local laundromat has a free bin, and the other part is thinking you snuck in a joke about taking clothes out someone else’s drier.
  Either way, great list!
  
  Pretty sure nextdoor is full of people who are scared of non white people entering their neighbourhood
- Reddit also has some of these. Is free Craigslist still a thing? Haven’t been in a while.
  
  I miss r/gunsforsale

No tariffs at the thrift store.
- Don’t give them ideas

Hell yeah!

I don't trust second hand electronics due to the fact that you're often playing Russian roulette with them
And I don't like the idea of buying chairs and mattresses second hand because of bodily fluids or the chance someone died in one
- To downvoters: I want to let you know that Surveillance Capitalism really like to keep track of Serial Numbers, especially IMEIs of phones. If you happen to buy a used phone that a violent criminal used, you could end up with a no-knock warrant being served on you because they would be triangulating your phone with the IMEI, and the authorities think the criminal still uses the phone, not realizing they already sold it and got a new burner.
  Very far-fetched, I know, but that's the worst case scenario. But there are also more common problematic situations you get get caught up in:
  For Example: You could also get your phone locked because it was part of payment plan, and the previous owner stops paying (maybe because they lose their job or something), and sold the phone off to get some cash.
  If you don't know, Samsung and Motorola (and perhaps other manufacturers as well) has the ability to disable your phone and hold the data hostage, yes, actually prevent you from accessing your data until you pay. (Carriers probably can't disable your phone, only block the IMEI, but if the financing goes through the manufacturer themselves, they could stop you from using your phone, even local access to files)
  By the time you find out, you could be too late to return the phone or chargeback.
  There's just too much that can go wrong with electronics, especially phones.
- Damn near every piece of tech I own is used. I've only had 1 or 2 duds. I figure that it's worth it as I'm paying less than 1/3 most of the time.
  
  I've never in my life bought a brand new smart phone, always used off eBay, Amazon, or swappa. Just make sure the listing has a return policy and it's pretty safe in my experience.
- My general rule on secondhand goods is "nothing permeable, unless it can survive going through the washer on the steam clean setting." Secondhand clothes are fine, as long as they can survive a good strong washing. Secondhand furniture is OK as long as it's not upholstered, like a table or dresser. But couches and mattresses? Forget it. My washing machine can't fit a love seat inside it.
- 2nd hand underwear?
  
  More expensive than new

Not sure about second hand stuff... Don't want my gun to jam when fighting fascists.
- Used guns are not much of a reliability concern. They're pretty durable goods. Plus, you should really be looking the thing over in person before you buy it anyway, and ideally put a few magazines through it.

But the value of the new product goes up if people tend to buy the used version of it.

This is exactly what he wanted. You are now buying amongst yourselves. Not saying it's bad advice, but worth pointing out
- Buying some old shirts =/= restoring the manufacturing sector of the United States.
- Is this true? Buying second hand doesn't add to gross economic output, and doesn't add anymore jobs. I only buy smartphones second hand because the market for them is so evil, with all these throwaway landfill devices. Its one of the only boycotts I can do in this smartphone dependent world.
  
  if reported creatively enough it could boost GDP, and increase the number of "independent businesses" which can be assumed to have at least one employee (the owner/ person wearing /selling clothes)
  you aren't thinking about cooking the books hard enough.
- "Hurr durr I'm going to make up bullshit to male orange cheeto look good by twisting bad things to make them look good"
  That's you, that's what you sound like by the way
  Your god emperor orange cheeto wants to kill people for not being white or being LGBTQ+
  Shut the fuck up about how the orange cheeto is doing good because we both know its bullshit
  Fasciasts aren't welcome here
  
  Wait. What? I hate trump. My point wasn't "hey, look how smart he is". It was "you might think this is a life hack, but its not. This was the intended outcome"

Are you sure that's how it works? Seems like a huge loophole to avoid the tariffs
- It's not a loophole. And it's not quite the tariff hack it's made out to be here. There's no tariffs sure. But tariffs will undoubtedly increase the price of the item when it is bought the first time which means it will then cost more in the secondary market. Still, buying things second hand is fantastic and is highly, highly underutilized in the current climate.
- Tariffs are a fee you pay to import something. The assumption of the meme is that you're buying something second hand that was imported before the tariffs (or after, it doesn't matter, you're not importing it).
  I mean, 99% of the time you're not the one doing the importing anyway so you don't actually pay the tariff but the company you're buying from will, and will almost certainly increase the price to make up for the higher cost to supply.
  
  Corporate sellers are going to add tariffs prices regardless of whether that product was impacted by a tariff or not whenever they possibly can.
  
  99% of the time you're not the one doing the importing anyway so you don't actually pay the tariff but the company you're buying from will, and will almost certainly increase the price to make up for the higher cost to supply.
  This is a contradiction. Yes, the end consumer may not be directly be responsible for paying the tariffs, but we’re still paying it when a company passes on the costs to us.
- The guy from craigslist is not paying taxes, sorry for the convenience.
- You'll never believe how it effects sales tax (if you're not buying from a second hand store).