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Are mood problems a “turn off” for people even when they’re hard to manage?

I have anger issues, which I can’t control. I am considered conventionally attractive (though I don’t see it) and many people think I’m cool and want to be around me.

Like I said, though, I have anger issues where I will act quite aggressively towards people. One time, someone I knew said hi to me, so I screamed “I HEARD YOU”. I also tend to type very dryly and with periods when I’m upset (which is admittedly ~90% of the time but I can’t control that).

My friend doesn’t talk to me as much and I really don’t get why because even when I’m “aggressive”, it’s tough love and I’m trying to help them. If I didn’t love her, I wouldn’t be like that.

I’m even like this with guys I’ve dated and I love them not as brothers.

Women also piss me off more than men do, so I hang out more with them because I feel like they get me and aren’t as bitchy. (Part of the reason why I’m bi curious but never found a woman I’d date, excluding one I almost went out with).

While I do tend to praise men and ignore women, as some people say, it’s tough love since I think women should be the best versions of themselves :) [I believe this is why society is so hard on women as a whole]

But yeah, TLDR; My mood problems impact the people I care about, and I’m wondering if it’s a turn off since some people don’t want to be around me rather than loving me for me.

I have a reason for my actions, people just choose to ignore those reasons and misinterpret me.

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  • Yes, if you are unkind to people many will not wish to be around you regardless of your reasons for it.

    You’ll need to work to change your behavior if you want to avoid this. Many people have anger issues. It’s hard to control how you feel but you may have success in changing how you act when you feel this way.

  • My friend doesn’t talk to me as much and I really don’t get why because even when I’m “aggressive”, it’s tough love and I’m trying to help them. If I didn’t love her, I wouldn’t be like that.

    Gonna be real here this is straight up abuser language.

  • Anger is absolutely a huge turn-off for me. As is all that 'tough-love' talk. If it’s not very explicitly explained to me, it comes across as just being an asshole. Even if it is explained, there's a good chance I'll be annoyed someone else decides they can 'teach me a lesson'if I'm not already intimately familisr with them. People assuming they know you well enough to redefine you is... Pretty rude, generally.

  • While I do tend to praise men and ignore women, as some people say, it’s tough love since I think women should be the best versions of themselves :) [I believe this is why society is so hard on women as a whole]

    Holy internalized misogyny, Batman!

    This is truly wild and the exact opposite of what women actually need.

    Who gets to define the best version of themselves? They don't get input on that? Only you? Only men?

    Coupled with your previous post on narcissism where you said this:

    I call my friends useless and horrible, and I really have no guilt/remorse or sympathy about that. I feel like I can treat them however I want without much remorse. In fact, I feel like most of the time, I’m right to treat people this way.

    It's not tough love. This is abusive language and behavior.

    I understand getting frustrated with people if they've failed to make positive changes for themselves for a long time... but unless you're their partner who lives with them, most of it doesn't and shouldn't have a direct impact on your life. Meaning it's up to them to make choices for how they live and what they feel is comfortable. It's up to you to be their friend and respect their choices being different than yours. If you can't do that, you're not actually their friend. You're just a rude domineering person who thinks they know best for everyone else (Pro tip: you don't, actually).

    "Tough love" almost never results in people suddenly respecting your opinion. No, if anything it makes them resent your opinion.

    Even if it is a partner you live with. Guess what? It's healthier to just dump them and move on if you're so disappointed with them than trying to bully them into the person you want them to be. Try spending less time justifying your own actions with your reasoning and try spending more time considering their actions and their reasoning with intent to focus on charitable interpretations.


    Look, I've had anger problems myself. The worst habit I picked up from my shitty parents was resorting to hurtful and abusive language when I've been pushed pushed pushed into anger. Even if the things I am saying have root in valid critiques of the people and the situation the abusive language does not help anything, ever, at all! I know this from experience. What you probably need is some therapy to help you find more healthy ways to express yourself and more healthy ways to help yourself disconnect from these situations as they do not impact you personally most of the time. (I can see a perpetually late friend impacting you, but that's small potatoes, get over it or stop being their friend: problem solved.) I promise you, therapy helps.

    All you're doing is making people hate you.

  • Yeah, it's a turn off. Doesn't matter if it's friends, partners, work, whatever, if you're unstable, you aren't going to be welcome company.

    It doesn't matter why, it doesn't even matter if you're justified. Nobody likes am asshole for long.

    See, love is not magic. It isn't something that gives a person blanket immunity to assholery. To the contrary, if someone loves you, and you claim to love them, you should be giving them your best self, not relying on their love to just gloss over you being an asshole

    It's like the whole concept of family being where you can just be yourself. Yeah, you can. Family is going to forgive a lot because you're family. But that doesn't mean you get to be an asshole and they're obligated to forgive you. It means that you give them the best of yourself, and they forgive your and love you when you fall.

    If you're working on your anger issues, that's great. Good friends will stick by you. But that doesn't mean they have to put up with your shit. A good friend won't put up with your shit, they'll tell you you're being an asshole, to stop it, refuse to let you continue, and offer you help to get better. That's love, not pretending there isn't a problem.

    You absolutely can gain some degree of control over your anger. Even obstacles like severe neurological issues don't prevent some control being gained.

    But nobody, and I mean nobody, not your parents or anyone is obligated to put up with your shit and let you stay in their lives when you won't put in the minimum effort into improving.

  • Seeking help is definitely the way to go as others have pointed out.

    If you don't care about others feeling hurt, well then just think about it rationally: you probably don't like getting hurt, so you can understand that they don't either and trying not to hurt others generally makes the world easier for everyone.

    Now I would also say that aside of that, you should apologize to people you hurt. Not specifically expecting them to forgive you, but because it also logically makes more sense as it might make them feel less bad about your behaviour.

    I would overall try to think about things more rationally than emotionally because it does look like your emotions are your main source of problem right now, and for example thinking that hurting people is going to make them improve is absurd.

    And thinking rationally would let you realize what behaviors are not okay, and let you apologize/warn people about it even if you fail to control yourself. While people would still completely be entitled to distancing themselves from you if your behaviour hurts them, it might at least give them some insight that allows them to get less hurt. And once again, less hurt is generally positive.

  • Yes. 110% a turn off. It sounds like you have a lot of issues and baggage you need to sort out and that is a massive red flag to me and I'd imagine it is for most people.

    Making others unwilling participants in your personal issues is a sure-fire way to ensure none of your relationships last.

  • So I'm in a similar-ish situation to you in that I process emotions differently to other people and think a lot of what characterizes normal communication is burdensome, though in my case I appear more as cold or insensitive than angry. With that in mind, I'll say this:

    My mood problems impact the people I care about, and I’m wondering if it’s a turn off since some people don’t want to be around me rather than loving me for me.

    You're correct. If someone was being an ass to me all the time I wouldn't want to be around them either. You have to understand the differences between your thinking and that of people around you (which is easier said than done; I've been and still am there), and with that understanding decide how much you intend to adjust your behavior to account for those differences. The spectrum here has two extremes; one is changing nothing about your behavior and the other is to completely go against your instincts and do everything you can to appear as a normal person to the other side. Where you land on this spectrum is ultimately up to you, but it's up to other people whether they'll stick around or leave you, so it's a trade-off and you'll have to decide how much you're willing to make it. Of course, remember the golden rule and don't do things you know will hurt the other person. Also:

    While I do tend to praise men and ignore women, as some people say, it’s tough love since I think women should be the best versions of themselves :) [I believe this is why society is so hard on women as a whole]

    This is an exception to everything I've said above. It's just misogyny, no two ways about it. It's not up to you what "the best version" of a woman (or anyone else) is, or whether or not they should be that.

  • Yes, inability to control your mood, constantly screaming at people, being pissed off and aggressive basically all the time, and being a rude asshole all the time is a major turn off.

    I grew up in a family like this, dated a good number of people like this, then eventually figured out: Oh, I have CPTSD and low self esteem from being chronically abused by most of the people in my life, for most of my life, I don't actually have to put up with their bullshit.

    You sound extremely reminiscent of my abusive female ex-partners, full of rage, suspicious of and less friendly toward women (likely because you view them all as competition and/or incompetent), and most importantly, you're a completely unnacountable and irresponsible narcissist hypocrite.

    You do understand why people don't react well to you being aggressive and pissy all the time.

    My friend doesn’t talk to me as much and I really don’t get why because even when I’m “aggressive”, it’s tough love and I’m trying to help them.

    This reveals that you do understand that your friend doesn't like it when you are aggressive.

    But you rationalize away your aggressiveness as the cause of your friend avoiding you with the intention underlying your action.

    Your intention doesn't matter.

    What you actually do, how you actually do it is what matters.

    If I perform a surgery with the intention of saving someone's life, but I fuck up when I use a chainsaw instead of a scalpel to make the initial incision, my patient is now dead, and I am responsible, regardless of my intention.

    ...

    No one has any obligation to deal with your anger issues other than you.

    No one owes you their friendship or affection, de facto, just because you believe they do.

    You should seek intensive therapy, probably look for a CBT specialist, at the very least, learn how to self reflect and apologize for doing things that make others flee from you...

    ...otherwise you'll soon find that your anger issues do indeed affect you, by making you unable to have any healthy relationships with anyone, leaving all the people you care about no longer caring about you.

    EDIT:

    I have a reason for my actions, people just choose to ignore those reasons and misinterpret me.

    People are not misintrepeting you, and you know it.

    I also tend to type very dryly and with periods when I’m upset (which is admittedly ~90% of the time but I can’t control that).

    You state that you are upset, ie, prone to a rude or aggressive interaction 90% of the time.

    People are not misinterpreting your behavior.

    Your behavior is abusive 90% of the time, and you just think that's everyone else's problem, not yours.

    ... Would you want to be friends with someone who is pissed off and abusive 90% of the time?

    Honest, serious question:

    Are you capable of actually imagining interactions with yourself from the other person's point of view?

    Can you do that, mentally transport yourself into someone else's shoes, without immediately adding in all the rationalizations that you didn't actually communicate, that only exist in your head?

  • For the most part, yes. For the parts that are a no, they are going to be really unhealthy and chaotic relationships. It definitely depends on the person, but this can be a very challenging social dynamic. It sounds pretty chaotic and I am not sure how many people would be able to deal with that day by day.

    To your last point, emotional communication is always tough and it's really hard to piece things together to get your thoughts across when tensions are high. I think that coming from a mindset of refining and explaining, to yourself first and then to others, why you feel a certain way or did a certain action could be a good start.

    Additionally, a lot of people do not respond well to "tough love". I would argue that for the majority of scenarios, it's one of the least successful ways to go about showing support and care for someone else. Setting clear and respectful boundaries is one thing, but providing only conditional support is a great way to tank a relationship and have someone distrust you. I think it's also helpful to unpack why you feel you need to act that way with people you care about. For me, that took a lot of work (still does) and goes back to my relationship with my dad (which has its positives and negatives, a lot of which we've worked through over the years).

    One of the most important ideas I've come across with communication is that you should ask yourself if your actions are helping you meet your goals in the conversation. If you really want to build a strong, trusting, relationship with someone, that's going to look wildly different to the actions you would take if you really want to distance yourself from someone. And if you mess up with how you presented yourself or how you meant to come across, address it as soon as you possibly can. Clear communication is key and being clear with yourself and your goals/wants/needs/preferences is the start of that.

    Hope that helps lol good luck out there. There's a lot of happiness to bring to the world if you work toward it.

    Edit:

    For the most part, yes. For the parts that are a no, they are going to be really unhealthy and chaotic relationships.

  • as someone who’s not psychotic but experienced symptoms similar to a psychotic break from ages 16-17 (idk what it was but it involved around 2-week severe periods of mood swings [mainly anxiety, anger, or euphoria] and depression, people suspected bpd or bipolar but neither was confirmed), i can say that i would also constantly post stuff repeatedly, look for advice, and also felt unfixable (“this is the way i am”).

    i have no clue if you’re experiencing what i did or anything similar to psychosis, i’m just sharing that i’m quite concerned for you.

    (i also must note that I didn’t find other people useless during this period)

  • Absolutely. After living 10 years with a person like you, leaving her was the best of my life and I should have done that sooner.

    I have to add more, to be honest with you.

    The reasons why she was bad for me where deeper than just the rage issue alone. That was probably the lesser issue, so don't be afraid.

    But I strongly suggest that you start a serious and sincere path with a good phycologist as that has the potential to help you control and understand the issue.

    Yourself, and the people who care about you, will thank you for that.

    Don't over think and go for it.

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