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Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior'

www.businessinsider.com Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior'

Billionaire Oracle cofounder Larry Ellison said he expects AI surveillance systems to reach a point where all citizens are under constant watch.

Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior'

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Fascist fuck

Hypothetically, if Larry was eaten, would other billionaires be on their best behavior and stop positing fascist control mechanisms?
- That's a testable hypothesis.
  
  You go right ahead. I'm not eating any of those assholes. They're only held together by hatred and bitterness. I'd assume the taste would be influenced by that.
- Nope. All their egos wouldn't allow them to believe that anybody would ever do anything to THEM.
  
  Well then why has Elon been wearing his son like body armor all of the sudden since the United Healthcare asshole got got?

And now you know why everyone hates Oracle.
- Oh you mean One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison?
  
  Not heard that before, and I'm old. 🤣😂
  
  That's fuckin' great!!

WAH-hoo!

We don't need citizens to be on their best behavior, we need millionaires and billionaires to be on their best behavior.
- This is their best behaviour.
  
  Actually there are good millionaires & billionaires (I'm being serious)
  It's just that, they're no longer Millionaires & Billionaires anymore (Or Alive)

add him to the list
- He's been on the list for a long long time.

This guy needs more luigi in his life

- Want in resin pin form.

Dude looks like he's one line of coke away from a heart attack...
- He looks like Tim Allen got in a fight with a hornet nest
- HGH

This man is dangerous and needs to go away immediately.
- After 9/11/01, he said, "You have no privacy anyway. Get over it. We should have a national ID card database." (paraphrased, but that was the gist)
  I'm not disputing that he's dangerous, but I'm pretty sure his comments are mostly driven by wanting to sell Oracle licenses. Which somehow makes it worse.

By all accounts, Larry is a piece of shit.
- Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle.
  — Brian Cantrill
  
  Lawnmowers can be a piece of shit too.
- Oh yeah, I consider him to be the worst billionaire of em all, even "trumping" that muskrat...
  
  Oracle, the official company of "Look, we're developer friendly now, our stuff is open source and free to use! Oh, right, you've activated my trap card, now pay 10k per every employee of your company because you used our proprietary JDK mwhahahahaha"

Yeah, and a simple wooden construction with a movable metal blade keeps billionaires on their best behaviour. Or at least it did in the 18th century.
- They didn’t have billionaires back then.
  
  But people with comparable wealth at that time
  
  Billionaires, royalty, that thing works on anyone really.

He can keep dreaming. People are angry and will fucking eat him alive. I can feel the anger in the air.
- idk, the gov't already has us under their boot
  
  Trust me, people are very angry, but our media never talks about it, that's why we don't see it.
  
  And most of us like it that way...
- Time to wake those fuckers up!

And by "citizens" you mean slaves.
- On coins, on stamps, on the covers of books, on banners, on posters, and on the wrappings of a cigarette Packet -- [Big Brother was] everywhere. Always the eyes watching you and the voice enveloping you. Asleep or awake, working or eating, indoors or out of doors, in the bath or in bed -- no escape. Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimetres inside your skull.
  \ -- George Orwell, Nineteen-Eighty-Four
  
  And even those few cubic centimeters will only be yours as long as we don't have the tech yet to access that. Once that tech is available, it's an inevitability that that too will be theirs

I used to think I was heading toward abject poverty as our bs systems were going into more bs but now Im getting more hopeful. Maybe I will be dead or in prison.
- Free food/shelter or won't need food/shelter, whatever floats your boat champ

But...we got video evidence of someone already having murdered a ceo. It didn't seem to stop the ceo from getting shot tho, remarkable. 🤔
- Video surveillance doesn't stop crime, it only records it...
  
  Well if red states are cutting access to porn, people gotta watch something to get their rocks off…

'citizens will be on their best behavior'
Compliant. He means compliant.
- He's afraid of the masses.
  I wonder why
- Longing. Rusted. Seventeen. Daybreak. Furnace. Nine. Benign. Homecoming. One. Freight Car.
  
  Желание, Ржавый, Семнадцать, Рассвет, Печь, Девять, Добросердечный, Возвращение на родину, Один, Товарный вагон.
  Edit: I'm Finnish, not russian, lol. Fuck 'em. I just thought we'd do it correctly if we're going to go that way.

Literally 1984.

Somebody read or watched 1984 and thought that's a wonderful idea. Or is he just trying to cozy up to the Chinese government? Or the drugs long term effects are kicking in? Who knows.
- These people are fundamentally narcissistic and think they personally know not only how the world works, but also how it ought to work. You can see the somewhat innocent version of that in Apple's "you're holding it wrong" fiasco.
  That kind of arrogance is kind of normal if you're a very intelligent teenager, since most of the people around you are indeed less intelligent than you, but most people get their reality check pretty soon and grow up. Business ghouls like Larry, however, never got their reality check. They managed to become successful early in life and still operate under that childish mindset.

There's a different solution that can ensure billionaires will be on their best behavior.
- Right, because billionaires will just fall over and concede - they won't have their government lapdogs impose draconian security and lockdown mentality on our whole society. Yes indeed, the action movie fantasy that makes you feel badass is a sure-fire winner.
  
  they won't have their government lapdogs impose draconian security and lockdown mentality on our whole society
  That's literally what this guy is trying to do right now.
  
  It won't matter past a certain point what kind of tech they employ.
  
  Right, because billionaires will just fall over and concede
  Zombies aren't real.

Larry Ellison says that North Korea and China are great countries to live in
You first, and then we'll lock the door behind you, you mother fucker
Pardon my French, but these scum of the earth should rot in hell as far as I am concerned. They are a literal cancer for this world
- Not only parasites, but they want to decide everything too.

Larry I am sure you will be on your best behavior as well.
- Functional AI won't care how much imaginary wealth the meatbags have accumulated.

We need another Luigi for this asshole.

A symptom of believing they are better than others.

Sounds like someones vying for next in line.

He's one of the owners of X, he and like 20 other people invested with Musk

what he really means is that "me and my buddies are fucking everyone else and we are afraid that there will be retaliation so we need mass surveillance"

Father Luigi won't you spare us from this clown
- In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti

they just can't help saying the quiet part out loud

That dude was never on his best behavior. And now he wants to punish anyone that is going to out live him.
it is an attitude that happens to many rich old people; how dare you live past them and enjoy it.

including YOU and other leeches?!
ya. didn't think so.

Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.
You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don’t anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn - you stick your hand in there and it’ll chop it off, the end. You don’t think "oh, the lawnmower hates me" – lawnmower doesn’t give a shit about you, lawnmower can’t hate you. Don’t anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don’t fall into that trap about Oracle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2308s

Larry and his ultra-rich megawank friends can all go first and show us the way

Funny thing about "best behavior" is that it's defined by whoever is in charge of the venue you're in, whether it's society ingeneral or a social media community. Somebody always dictates what's okay or not okay to say.

Remember, remember the 4th of December...
- 5th of December?
  I'm aware of the 5th of November and the 4th of December...
  
  Long day, thanks. Fixed.
  
  Can't forget the third of September! That's a day I'll always remember, yes I will, 'cause that was the day my daddy died.
  Come to think of it, do you remember the 21st night of September? Love was changin' the minds of pretenders while chasing the clouds away.

Larry Ellison is one of the biggest pieces of shit and Oracle can go fuck themselves.

One
Raging
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison

Lets use it only on citizens who are billionaires to make sure they remain on their best behavior.

Ah, the Panopticon. How novel.

Time to 3d these people.
- Oh, I like this.
- DVON GET THE ~~TABLES~~ GUILLOTINES!!!

So billionaires will pay the right amount of taxes! Oh wait!

How about using it on the billionaires instead?
- I bet they are under the same surveillance but for their safety

The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison - God Doesn't Think He's Larry Ellison

Who's watching the billionaires?
- The Smash Brothers.
- Usual a few hundred who blow the whistle after the billionaire is dead.
  They've heard what happens to formerly-live whistle blowers.

Leave it to the associopathic billionaires to take a look at 1984 and decide to use it as an instruction book.

Brb, buying cases of Guy Fawkes masks...
- You oughta buy shares of the Guy Fawkes Mask Co.

you hear a sudden beep in your ears
"Sir you've not been smiling. We really want citizens to be smiling!"

I heard a guy tell a story about a vast AI-fueled cluster of bombs strapped to Larry's head set to trigger if he says objectively inhumane, anti-democratic shit can ensure Larry stays a lot quieter.

Of course it is, because that AI will totally not be programmed to ONLY surveil the lower tier sub-humans, Riiiiiiiiiight ?

Sure, it could, but should it? No of course not, a safe "utopian" society through force is dystopian and still unsafe (just now the danger is sanctioned, don't run afoul of Lord AI) in reality.
I'll take the possibility of getting shot by some dickhead over AI overlords watching my every move any day of the week.

Panopticon will not be the way

1984
- Is that the unreleased prequel to that bowling for soup hit?

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