Elon Musk delusionally believes Trump support is not affecting Tesla, claims sales are at 'all-time highs'
Elon Musk delusionally believes Trump support is not affecting Tesla, claims sales are at 'all-time highs'
I, for one, definitely won't be buying another Tesla as long as Naziboy Musk has anything to do with the company.
The guy has simply lost it.
Complete idiot. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
True. Jeff Bezos probably the most evil man on earth, but he knows to keep his mouth shut. So his business just getting bigger and no one really care about him and most importantly the media mostly just leave him alone.
I wouldn't say no one.
Imagine getting so mad online that you had a $44 billion dollar, years long meltdown about it. You wouldn’t have to pay me 1% of that to never post online again.
I know the exact number someone would have to pay me to never post online again. That number is 3 orders of magnitude smaller than 44 billion. I could take less than that but I want to be compensated for giving up a fun little hobby.
It's the usual narcissist trait of earnestly believing all your thoughts are important.
He totally has a framed photo of just himself in his office, just like his new buddy boy Donald. And I bet they don't even like each other. They both want something and as soon as one of them get it the bromance will be over instantly.
I own 2 Model 3’s. I waited in line the day before the reveal to plunk down $1000 to reserve it sight-unseen.
I will never buy a Tesla again, and want to unload my 2 as soon as a comparable replacement is available. I’m embarrassed to drive mine around.
I'm really hoping Rivian can pull off mass production of the R2 and R3.
Me too.
Is it because of Elon at the helm of the company or moreso because the car itself is poorly made, unreliable, etc? I have a few friends who own Tesla's, and I get mixed answers. Some say the quality is good others say it's a POS.
It almost varies from car to car in my very limited experience. Just from outside one, the build quality varies wildly. I worked for a surgery center for a few years and didn't notice until I saw 2 Drs parked side by side and one of them had massive body panels gaps that even I noticed. Having seen the difference, I can see it when I pass by parked ones as I go around town.
The lack of consistency is a deal breaker for me, even if the company wasn't run by a south African Nazi
They’ve been great cars. The fit and finish is kind of lackluster, but the cars run great, are fun to drive, and have been extremely reliable.
Do their respective views on the quality of their Teslas correlate to their views on Musk?
The cars are fine. There's a lot of disinformation out there.
Honestly, that's the right move. I genuinely assume Tesla drivers are assholes at this stage. I see the Tesla logo as MAGA 2.0.
I agree. Many companies have shady practices but very few of them have CEOs that show their shitty character as open as Elon Musk. One important reason of buying an electric car instead of a ICE car is causing less harm / negative impact to the world. And people who make their buying decision based on that in many cases don't appreciate people constantly lying and promoting fachism. I personally won't buy a Tesla as long as he is involved.
The dangerous thing here is that he’s using his influence, fame and resources to normalise being a chronic fuckhead, and it’s likely going to work.
As a Tesla owner of 7 years, my next car will absolutely not be a Tesla and it is entirely because of Elon Musk.
I appreciate the company spurring competition to enter the market with EVs, but now I hope they crash and burn.
They're literally crashing and burning if you pay close attention to the news.
What does Musk think Trump is going to do for him? Trump has said multiple times he wants to outright ban EVs and increase fuel production and sales. He hates public transportation, so he's not going to support The Loop. He's weirdly obsessed with space, sure, but Trump isn't going to give him money for SpaceX. Is Musk looking for a cabinet position or something?
This is how Authoritarianism works. Trump will ban all EVs with the exception of ones made by his inner circle.
so he’s not going to support The Loop.
Neither does Musk, so same difference.
Yes, he already announced plans for a new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)
I fucking hate this timeline
Of course he did, the greasy bastard.
Musk thinks Trump will reward his fealty with a cabinet post, where he can then maximize his grift using the government as his cudgel.
If Musk wasn’t with Tesla, I’d consider Tesla an option. And, I’m definitely in the market, my lease runs out in January. But with that idiot, nope. No chance. Doesn’t even have anything to do with Trump support. So I guess he’s right in a way?
Just the other day I saw a Tesla with a bumper sticker stating "I bought this before Elon went crazy."
Ioniq, or wait for the solid state battery packs in 2026. That's my dilemma.
See, I was going to get an ioniq or a Kia. And then Amnesty International released a report that makes it clear just why they are priced so nicely: by exploiting people and the environment, and not caring.
Tesla is getting a very good result in that report (or, let’s say, as good as any EV maker gets). It’s a shame I can’t consider them.
Why not both?
Ai art finally getting some proper use here
That's not AI art, that was taken at a Trump rally right before Elon turned into a human jumping bean in elation of the event.
"He loves me! He really does! Hooraaaaay!"
::frantic giggling::
No. Its not OK to normalize fake news
Crazy to think about how supremely fucked up musk's deepest core beliefs must truly be, working from a base of growing up in South Africa on the PRO Apartheid sideb with those broken psychopath parents. Like we see plenty from him, but he's aware enough to not say the absolute worst of it out loud.
He's the evil foreign born person they're terrified of. He just ran over to their side so he could point outward to redirect the fingers he feared would point at him. Evil divorced coward
I wonder if errol musk and fred trump would have been bros. They certainly seem similar from what i have read about them both
It definitely affected me. In retrospect I'm glad I bought a different EV.
I don't think Elon is wrong. I went back stateside this summer after being away since 2020, and there were Tesla cars everywhere. My daughter and I made a joke about seeing a cyber truck in the wild thinking it wouldn't happen, and we ended up seeing 3 of them.
I think most people don't care about politics, and just want a decent EV. There is an old Mark Twain quote about someone who doesn't read the news being uninformed, while the person reading the news is misinformed. I think in todays day and age, ignorance is bliss and uninformed may be the smarter option for your long term health.
It sucks, where is the 2016 Musk. That dude seemed to really want to help the world.
Tesla was in a difficult position, but was really doing good things, SpaceX was just getting off the ground (pun intended), The Boring Company wasn't a thing yet.
But post 2016, he just seems to get worse and worse, meme coins, weird birther shit....
I used to really want a Tesla, they seemed like a car for me, but now that I am getting close to being able to afford one....well no, I think I'll probably get a polestar. Musk you went from what I would have called a visionary to a joke then kept sliding into actively dangerous. Shame really.
It sucks, where is the 2016 Musk. That dude seemed to really want to help the world
Knowing people who worked with him at the time, 2016 Musk was a PR illusion and nothing more. He's literally always been a giant piece of shit, he just had much better handlers and was able to hide it a lot better so he could get all those sweet government subsidies and commit stock fraud. Literally everything he's ever done has been in the name of gifting money from the government or shareholders in some form or another for personal enrichment. He's never once cared about anyone other than himself.
Musk is now one of the wealthiest people in the world and our justice and financial system have made it clear he won't be punished, so now he can be the same piece of shit he's always been, just publicly, because it's clear there will be basically zero repercussions.
I had a client in 2011 who had worked for tesla and said musk was a complete nightmare even then!
I've always told my friends and family that Musk needs a sassy black woman as a publicist and all communications should be filtered through her.
The fall from grace was both spectacular and stunning. I’ve never seen someone trash so much goodwill and in such a short time.
Is that a real picture or AI?
It's edited. In the original you can see Musk's tongue in Trump's mouth.
It's a super super very real picture, bigly real, people are saying...
I mean people are, you know people are asking about the photo folks. Oh my god are they asking about the photo. Over and over, and people are saying folks, let me tell you. Nobody is asking about what’s going on in the White House right now. Nobody, is, asking.
Nobody wants to ask. You know why? You know what sleepy Joe and Kamala are doing in the White House? Right now? As I type this message on lemmy and with minimal effort trying to imitate Trump they are doing crazy things.
They are bringing insane asylums into the US. I don’t know what an asylum seeker is, but we’ll get to the bottom of it.
This was part of the lobbying contract they agreed to, where Trump got sponsorship from Elon, and Elon got new tax breaks.
Weirdly, they both asked for a kissing picture clause at the same time.
This is exactly why I'm down voting and reporting this post. Its not OK to normalize fake news
Said it dozens of times, Musk's one and only true talent is, or rather was, pumping his stock value.
We done got smart, sumbitch!
Whatever happens next month, I doubt Elon’s decision will age well. Even if Trump wins, I would be shocked if he doesn’t turn on Elon within a year.
This is the key takeaway, imo.
I hate that Fred still uses the Roman-numeral-ten site. I emailed him about it and didn’t get a response.
I mean they're also really shitty cars. As much as the muskrat as poisoned the image of the company, I think a lot of the loss and sales is due to other competitors having caught up and being higher quality.
You might want to actually look at one or test drive one
I don't drive a Tesla because I have never liked Musk. Apart from that imo the only model that is somewhat good looking is the model S but still very overpriced for what you get.
Dude keeps surprising me with his stupid decisions. Can't imagine the shareholders are happy with his newest pro Trump thing, once again showing he is a huge narcissist.
Aren't they releasing quarterly numbers tommorow? I guess we will see what "all time high" means very soon.
Edit: Earnings release today after market clothes. Earnings call tommorow.
Note, they won't tell how many teslas they sold, but they will report how much their profit was.
Just a reminder that when Dan Cathy, owner of Chickfilet, ranted publicly about how gay people were sub-human sinners, their profits went sky high.
Never underestimate the depths the gutter trash of this country will sink to. That was sandwiches, though... Not highly expensive cars.
What gives people the idea that Musk actually cares about Tesla stocks? His lifetime experience of failing upwards, perhaps?
They might be high, but they'd be higher if he wasn't a nutjob
I wouldn't buy a Tesla going forward (especially when cars like byd are probably better quality). And I literally trust the Chinese government more than Trump
Yup, I literally trust a rabid lion more than a rabid bear.
The difference is.. BYD isn't literally getting in bed with an anti-EV government.
That makes you wonder whats really going on here.. Musk and Trump clearly have some background agreement (which could even involve Trump signing a long term contract on behalf of the government with Musk for promotion opportunities, or blocking Chinese cars entirely)
Or changing laws to benefit Musk, signing contracts for the Boring company, etc.
Something doesn't feel right here.. Although both Trump and Musk are similar (both have no problem calling heroes pedophiles or other rudeness). both have no problem fucking over their workers
Elon Musk delusionally believes Trump support is not affecting Tesla, claims sales are at 'all-time highs'
FTFY.
I mean, yeah, all time high. They're gonna go down.
Sorry to hijack the thread but are question style posts allowed in this community. Nothing in the community rules mention not allowing posts asking questions or asking for advice but from what I have seen, all the posts here are articles or studies relating to EV.
Its not OK to have an image like that in a news article. I don't care if its obvious to most people. Its immoral to normalize fake news.
Untie that knot in your pants. Obvious doctored photos and illustrations for satirical purposes have been around forever.
It's not fake news, it's satire.
But where does it become obvious and to whom? It should be labeled.
Articles have been coming out with pictures that are more and more random, but there’s an even more recent trend to label them for what they are. We should all push for that
For example: article talking about F-16s for Ukraine with picture labeled “stock photo of B-2 from 2005”. It was obvious to me that it wasn’t an f-16 (and I wonder why it’s even there when it doesn’t add value), but let’s make it clear to anyone - clear that it’s lazy news, not fake news
I grew up in the 90s where everything we didn't like was gay so I get it. Trump bad. Musk bad. Depict them as gay because it's funny. It's just weird to need that.
Also I was raised around a fucked up drunk so I also get the whole "these are homophobes, let's make fun of them for being gay because they'll react negatively even if i technically don't care about homosexuality." Just pushing buttons.
You don't understand the danger of the fire that youre playing with
🤡🤡
I hope all his companies fail horribly. Even the space thing that's innovating, I just don't care that much about human space flight. Send probes to gather information, that's interesting to me. I don't care about getting people to Mars.
Thats great ladies. Now with more tongue.
"I don't care SO much that I'm going to leave a comment about how much I don't care! Feel bad, OP! Someone didn't like this post!"
Sometimes it's hard to avoid being as asshole isn't it
He's not wrong though. Last I read Tesla is doing pretty well.
Tesla sales are down.
“While some other automakers see rising EV sales in the U.S.—just look at General Motors or Kia—Tesla is on track for yet another down quarter. Cox forecasts that Tesla’s U.S. sales will decline 7% on a quarter-over-quarter basis, and 7.3% year-to-date. The firm pegs Tesla’s Q3 sales at 152,829, down from last quarter’s 164,264. Tesla’s sales dropped on a year-over-year basis in Q1 and Q2 as well.”
I just read that Elon Musk said sales are at an all time high
Tesla sales are down 27% in the US in 2024 compared to same period in 2023 according to numbers here: https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/tesla-us-sales-figures/
If they're positive growth overall then it has to be because of international sales. I can't find good statistics on that right now though.
This makes me think it's worth it to short Tesla. Elon has only gone full Maga in the past few months so I don't expect sales to improve anytime soon in the US. Politics isn't the only thing that is dragging sales down, but shit, it's not like republicans are the ones buying EVs.
They're doing kind of OK. After the huge growth in recent years, that's certainly disappointing. And while there are other factors, like increased competition and a general cooldown, Musk's assholery very likely is also a factor.
I'm still undecided on an electric car, mostly because modern cars are such privacy nightmares on wheel (not Tesla-specific).
But there's one thing for sure: whatever car I get eventually won't be a Tesla, and that's 100% due to Musk's misguided political gesticulations.
I'm one example of business lost forever to Tesla. One example doesn't make a trend, but if there's one, there are others.
The main reason I won't buy tesla is Elon.
Secondly I want a "real" car with proper signalling leavers and tactile buttons for everything, in my opinion touch screens is a safety risk.
That's the reason I settled for an EV with physical buttons and knobs, even if it's an older model. No regrets.
On the safety issue, I have a personal pet theory that a lot of "sudden acceleration events" in Teslas come from the one pedal system they use for both gas and break.
We're dealing with decades of ingrained muscle memory that says when you're about to hit something/lose control/etc.. you slam on the brakes. I know in some vehicles they say "in case of emergency, turn off one-pedal mode". But seriously, in a split second emergency you're going to remember to do that?
Yeah! All these people here saying they won't consider Tesla cars because of Elon; I won't consider Tesla cars because they are shitty and dangerous cars.
My parents got an EV recently and whenever you start it up you have to hit OK to a data collection thing on the touch screen before it let's you drive off 🥴
Sadly, most new cars are Internet connected nowadays, not just EV.
In fact, GM got caught selling customers data from their ICE cars (OnStar connected).
Laughs in warming the carbs on my pre-2000s motorcycle while holding out the choke.
I've heard so much shit about Teslas now that even if they sold the company to Bernie Sanders I wouldn't get one
Most of it is bollocks. The cars are actually fine. Only the moron-in-chief makes me want to sell mine.
I'm desperately hoping that conversations or conversion kits become more of a thing so I can keep my dumb car, but electrify it.
Cuz it's either that or maybe wait till cars start getting jailbroken and open source operating systems (ugh) like phones and computers... Which absolutely shouldn't have to be a thing. But here we are.
I swore off Tesla years ago when I realized Musk was such a piece of shit.
This is why I really want Aptera to succeed, but they aren't getting enough funding.