Jill Stein paid $100,000 to a Republican consulting firm led by a suspected January 6 rioter
Jill Stein paid $100,000 to a Republican consulting firm led by a suspected January 6 rioter
The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.
I'm sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to explain how this isn't what it absolutely, positively is.
You called it!
Right?! Oh wait...
With all this stuff about Jill coming out, it’s no wonder all the Lemmy.ml and Hexbears are so supportive of her. She’s a Russian asset!
What is the Russian word for Wumao?
It could just be she made a career out of unsucessfully running for president and doesn't care where the money came from.
That's supposedly how the whole Trump mess started.
You mean him just wanting to make money by running for president never actually expecting to run and regretting every minute of it while trying to be so vile he could never get elected again only to realize that’s what his base wants?
Are you confusing the Green candidate, Jill Stein with Claudia De la Cruz, the PSL candidate?
She does deserve praise for taking the correct stance regarding Gaza, but the general consensus of the Greens as a whole is that they're useless because unlike PSL, they don't organize between elections.
I'm not saying she's not a Russian asset, anyone could be including the people spreading this rumor with no supporting evidence. It's become a joke online that Democrats will now call anyone they disagree with a Russian asset.
For some reason, on one hand Democrats will claim that peace negotiations between Israel & Palestine are a good thing, but how dare she say that peace negotiations between Ukraine & Russia are important too.
Jill Stein has called Putin a war criminal while Kamala campaigns with a war criminal (Dick Cheney).
When did "Dick" Cheney campaign for Harris? He said he was voting for her rather than the felon. That's it. Liz Cheney is the one who spoke at a Harris campaign, not her father.
Lol your defense of her is "anyone could be a Russian asset!" is like a textbook denial list. What's the next stage?
When has she campaigned with dick? Show me.
Is it any different than a socialist that accuses anyone that disagrees with them of being a genocide supporter?
Insurrectionist*
...I would argue that even insurrectionist is being far, far too lenient. They should be called terrorists. But, yeah, calling them "rioters".....barf.
They should be called terrorists.
Stein's campaign also paid $100,000 to a consulting firm, Accelevate, that has worked with Republican campaigns for signature-gathering services.
This is now the bar for "terrorism"?
you: le government is bad, crooked and corrupt. We must seize the means of production!
also you: omg, those inshurexionists.. they made the government poopy their pants and punched some cops (we love cops now) TERRORISTS!
Is this even real?
Nothing about this story or Jill is important except for one thing. She is aligned with Putin in denying Ukraine weapons to defend itself. She may not be purposefully supporting Putin but she is supporting his position and making his position stronger ignoring Putin's past patterns of behavior.
I wonder where she got the money from?
Uncle Putin?
Her trust fund. (And other rich idiots who think giving her money cleans them of sins of capitalism)
She's just a rich bored kid who wants the attention like pretty much all politicians these days other than the prostitutes the Republicans bring in to slow proceedings in a way they expect to be able to control by being the source of their money.
Dick Cheney? Oh wait, that is the war criminal an actual Presidential candidate is campaigning with.
That’s a nice change from the genocide stuff!
Jill was always a double agent
@UniversalMonk@lemmy.world, your thoughts?
I thought that username felt familiar, so I clicked through to their profile. Yup, already blocked lol.
lmao same
I like her. I'm not voting for her, but I still like her. Thanks for asking!
In Nevada, the Democratic Party initiated a lawsuit to exclude the Green Party from the ballot, claiming the party used the wrong form to collect signatures from voters. The Green Party appealed the case and was represented by Jay Sekulow, an attorney who defended Trump throughout his impeachment trials (last week, the Nevada Supreme Court rejected Stein’s bid to be put back on the ballot).
In Wisconsin, Democratic National Committee employee David Strange sought to remove Stein from the ballot by arguing the Green Party can’t nominate presidential electors without legislative candidates eligible to do so. The Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear the case. Stein was again legally represented by a Trump-affiliated lawyer, Michael D. Dean, who was involved in lawsuits that attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election, the Journal reported.
From another article:
The affidavit originally submitted with the Green Party’s petition in July 2023 was the correct one. However, because the petition that the Green Party submitted contained a separate mistake, an employee in the secretary of state’s office sent the party a sample petition that included the wrong affidavit – for use with petitions to put initiatives and referenda on the ballot. As a result, the affidavits that the Green Party later submitted with its petitions did not contain the attestation required for access to the ballot.
The secretary of state eventually announced that the Green Party had submitted enough signatures to qualify for the 2024 general election ballot.
The Nevada Democratic Party went to state court in June of this year, arguing that the signatures were invalid because the Green Party had used the wrong affidavit.
On Aug. 12, the state trial court ruled in favor of the Green Party, but on Sept. 6 a divided Nevada Supreme Court reversed. It concluded that the attestation that the Green Party had failed to include “serves an essential purpose.” Therefore, the majority reasoned, allowing the Green Party to have its candidates on the ballot when it had not fulfilled all of the prerequisites to do so would nullify “the requirements that were put in place for the public’s benefit.”
SCOTUS ruled with the Nevada Supreme Court and chose to keep the Green Party off the ballot. Their only real mistake here was really just some legal red tape filled out incorrectly. It doesn't really matter if Jill Stein is a terrible candidate or not, the two party system will clearly go to the ends of the earth to kill 3rd parties from every becoming a thing lol. I guess it matters more for democrats since green party would be taking out more of their votes than republicans.
The affidavit originally submitted with the Green Party’s petition in July 2023 was the correct one. However, because the petition that the Green Party submitted contained a separate mistake, an employee in the secretary of state’s office sent the party a sample petition that included the wrong affidavit – for use with petitions to put initiatives and referenda on the ballot. As a result, the affidavits that the Green Party later submitted with its petitions did not contain the attestation required for access to the ballot.
Wow.
Wow, Dems actually exercised power in a legal manner to improve their chances. That is wild. Hope they don't break their backs slapping themselves.
They will always do it so long as it weakens the left. The DNC exists to badger any left of center movement toward their center right position, and even put DNC funds to extremist right winger campaigns boosting Christian nationalist platforms... learning nothing from clintons pied piper failures only pushing us all closer to a fascist hellscape just to say guess we vote blue since we have nowhere else to go. Fuck Jill Stein and all but this is the exact shit that leaves me voting for literally any socialist instead.
See also: the Dems suing to kick Claudia De La Crúz off the ballot in Georgia and PA. "Democrats" in name-only.
Exactly! Good point!
Sort of upsetting all your up votes are from people that are happy Nevada "beat" Jill Stein, which is not really the point I think you are making.
I agree that its shameful behavior from the democrats. I wish they would consider why they've lost 2 million people to the Green party rather than try to ban them.
The DNC seems overly happy to use bureaucracy as a cludgel to reduce options "legally" to themselves.
While I get the fear beating down your competition in an underhanded manner doesn't inspire a whole lot of good will and also seems extremely unlikely to get the people you have just disenfranchised to vote on your side.
They resist any movement or adoption of new policy in favor of it staying as stagnant as possible. It's a deeply confusing and long term failing idea. Just look at how Kamala is now polling worse with each passing week. She felt like change and initial momentum of "joy" was able to carry her a little but it's not a permanent state and the initial dopamine is running out.
I wish she'd go away tbh.
I have more respect for people who don't vote then I do for people who vote for her.
And I do NOT respect people who don't vote at all.
It's no wonder why the .ml users love her so much.
The friend of their friend is their friend.
That is a tough call for sure. I'd have to see their down ballot votes before I decide. If they took time out of their day to be a full clown, yeah, at least the person sitting it out didn't waste any paper while doing nothing.
Well, she didn’t pay it.
The US Green Party, and all other minor parties, have no incentive to act professionally or nominate serious candidates because voters can't really punish it electorally for nominating shit candidates or other screw-ups by the party.
Green Party electoral results:
Libertarian Party electoral results:
Working Families Party electoral results:
Constitution Party electoral results:
The WFP uses electoral fusion to join with Democrats. Don't lump them in with Constitution (far right), LP (far right), or Green (pure spoiler, doesn't work with Democrats, never makes efforts to keep the far right out).
Under the WFP ticket, they have members elected to the Philadelphia City Council. There are members of the WFP currently up for election through fusion, running under the Democratic ticket. Lets take a look here at a few things...
In 2015, NY WFP ran 111 candidates, and won 71 local offices.. Ed Gomes became a member of the CT Senate.
In 2017, Josh Hall won in CT House of Reps.
They are new to many areas. CA in 2022 for example. Sue Altman is the WFP leader in NJ, and is currently running under the Democrat ticket.
This is the really important bit.
Like, we need third parties, but running them in federal elections is at best a dog-and-pony act, and at worst, a useful agent for the least-aligned party via the spoiler effect.
Even if a third party candidate miraculously won the presidency, they would be cockblocked their entire term.
The way they are now is an insult to democracy.
If they really wanted to do be effective, they'd best be working together where goals align. And where goals should align for all of them, voting reform and moving off FPTP, would be a damn good place to start.
But they don't want to be effective. They just want to pop up every 4 years, get some money, con a few suckers into thinking that voting for them will give them a clean conscience, then disappear back into their hole. Giant fucking scam, all of them.
If they really wanted to do be effective, they’d best be working together where goals align.
This is what the WFP does. They have a number of members running as Democrats, or put their endorsement to democrats, where needed (or where they don't have ballot access and need to run as Democrat).
They don't belong in NateNate60's list.
like Trump, she is VERY old
She's weird.
Gosh, how weird.
Since when do we care what she does with Russia’s money?
Seriously though… the propagandists are swinging for the fences here today! Sheesh! The comments are something else!
embarrassing for the green party
What moves this beyond Third party pays consulting firm for political campaign work that had previously done work for one of the duopoly parties.... Like who else is there to hire for this kind of thing?
led by a suspected January 6 rioter
There are plenty of people on both sides that didn't attempt to overthrow the government.
Did nobody here read the article?
A spokesperson for Stein said she was unaware of Pool's reported connection to Jan. 6; a lawyer for Pool insisted his client was filming a documentary, not taking part in the attack.
Just because you're somewhere people are doing bad things doesn't mean you're in support of it, especially if you're filming them doing bad things..
The real story here is that she had to pay any law firm at all to fight against the Democratic party to get on the ballot, because the Democratic party is suing to undermine democracy.
There’s what they claim they were there for that hasn’t been litigated yet and what they are seen on video doing (carrying around a bike rack style blockade and waving a gadsen flag). This is completely ignoring the recent assault charges they’ve received these are both easily found online.
Yeah. While I think its wack to vote 3rd party given the risks of a republican win with anything nowadays. Stein has been around for awhile and if she was motivated by a win at all costs type thing she would not be part of the green party. I mean she could have easily ran for house or senate as a democrat and likley have had a political career for the last few decades.
Cornell West 2024!!!
Democrats litigate to deny a candidate ballot access, candidate hires non-democrat lawyer to defend herself and democracy.
Probably quite a few “non-democrat” lawyers that didn’t storm congress. Weird how she chose one who did and that wasn’t a dealbreaker for her. 🤔
Are you saying no lawyer should represent a defendant? If those lawyers didn't represent the defendants, who would? The Constitution mandates that defendants have competent legal representation.
Oh yeah you knew all about this firm and all of its members activities before this story. Theres just so many ballot access consultancy firms specifically fighting against democrats efforts to obstruct democracy.
I never see positive posts about Kamala because centrist Dems know that there isn't anything they can post about her that will be actually appealing so their only tactic is to beat up on the anti-war leftist candidate as much and as often as possible
You're kidding, right? Right now, the front page consists of whatever stupid shit Trump has done recently, downvoted crap pushing Putin's favorite "anti-war leftist candidate," and positive news about Kamala Harris and her campaign.
What positive news about Harris? All I've seen is her make statements assuring the population that she's right of center
Seriously? I’m actually growing sick of all the positive posts I see about her. I feel like the support is overwhelmingly positive and extensive on here to the point where some people lose touch with reality.
However, I see you are from a different instance, so it’s entirely possible that we are not seeing the same feed. Cannot see what you are seeing from where I’m standing.
Do you have an example of a positive post about her?
Do you ant Jill shills understand how corrupt the Democratic party is? Biden straight up supported segregation and Kamala jailed poor children's parents because they skipped school.
And there's countless times Democrats have collaborated with Republicans.
Imagine defending Stein's lack of empathy for the genocide in Ukraine... even just remotely.
As close as we are to the election, they’re getting more desperate.
Anti Jill Shills?
Wait... You mean some of you are actually getting paid to publicly point out this flawed candidates's clear record of failure/inaction, especially dirty funding sources, "interesting" vodka scented dinner parties and clear intentions as a spoiler candidate working purely on behalf of conservatives?
Do you Shill Stein supporters know what whataboutism is? It’s 2024. Someone HAD to have explained it to you by now.
bOtH sIdEs
Yeah, you're right, lets just hand over the keys to dictator donnie. Good thinking
🥱
What is this? A Jill for ants? It needs to be at least 3 times bigger!
I understood this reference
Is collaborating with another party a bad thing here? Is there a specific type of collaboration you're referring to? That's a strange thing to lump in to an argument. This is the kind of partisan bullshit that got us here. A completely dysfunctional system where any cooperation between the two parties is viewed as corruption if not fully aligned with a single party's interest.
If the collaboration was to harm the general public, then that's a different story. But a general statement just adds to the vitriol.
Oy, you are gonna make people angry with this comment, friend! Good luck! lol
