*Permanently Deleted*

The remaining users were the worst of the worst

lmao talk about full of shit vague-posting nonsense; "hexbear treats war like a football game" says the motherfuckers who've shouted "TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN" every day for the last three years straight, to say nothing of their support for the Palestinian genocide, as if I'd take moral lessons on war from these racist cockroaches
Also I love how the inciting thread is about Hexbears being nice to and complimenting a child for proficiently articulating their emotions and political journey, but I guess personal development would seem like horror to these reddit rejects
- nothing personell, kid

I started as alt-right
yeah goat, we could tell
- For me, it was gamergate
  damn goat, never saw that coming
- @goat@lemmy.ml it really is suspicious that you are so dedicated. In my experience, libs don't care that much about communists. Libs don't spend more than a year trying to make a communist forum look bad, and they certainly don't deliberately distort the truth to do so—like you implying we're anti-vax, or claiming lemmygrad hates trans people as if nutomic speaks for them, when you've been here long enough to know better. Libs don't knowingly lie like that, they don't think they need to. Libs live in a media bubble, they're confident they can express every aspect of their mainstream, socially acceptable, vetted perspective in public and it will surely withstand criticism from some communists on a fringe forum. In my experience, the ones who lie and distort are the alt-right. The dedication, the dishonesty, it really gives me a strange vibe, goat.
  
  Also I get a casually transphobic vibe from goat, like when they said that people who get offended over being misgendered are "obsessing" and need to "go outside".
  Edit: further more you have them saying shit like this:
  Not just denying the gender identity of a bunch of this site's users but also rehashing queerphobic "groomer" accusations.

self-aware?

so they complain about (presumably) /r/news posters treating war 'like a football game'
yet they're perfectly comfortable posting on .world as 'one of the good ones' after a year of
behavior from pretty much every lib on there
Yeah this is an incredible self-report
- Yeah this screams “important detail left out about their ban”
- Seems like bernie liberal to "i just wanna grill" pipeline

Skill issue.
This site has been wholesome as fuck for me.
- Yuuuup it do be that way

This response is fucking classic:
I’m an anarchist, tankies don’t like me because I like my freedom of speech and right to bear arms, not a kid tho

destructive drama outbursts every single week
Well he’s got us there lmao
- We've only had ONE real bad struggle session and it's the vegan one, which lasted like half a week three years ago
  And frankly compared to shit like the 2017 multi-thread struggle session about how "Native Americans are racist ethno-nationalists" which dominated r/chapotraphouse for half a summer, people on this site are living in forum paradise
  
  Yea tbh I actually think it’s somewhat overblown, people get into dumb slap fights about shit on the Internet, hb isn’t really unique in that regard. I’d rather that than it be a forum of a bunch of liberals agreeing with each other about how the poors need to die.
  ….but tbf I miss like 80% of them these days
- again, the only scenario where being australian is an advantage - you miss all the drama
- They were more frequent pre-federation. The most recent kerfuffle I can think of that escalated to a full blown struggle sesh was a post in the dunk tank about a man getting offended that his girlfriend wouldn't have slept with him if she didn't know him but is happy he's hubby material, or something like that. That was a few months ago.

The return of @LiberalSocialist@hexbear.net
- They had to go to therapy for Hexbear very sad

Was it alt-right or communism for you?
I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.
So they started with embracing hate, then embraced communist aesthetics (presumably to be edgy while not understanding the communist analysis), and then finally, they decided that the status quo where murder happens conveniently mostly out of sight of the imperial cores and everything stays the same is best, because all those people resisting the empire are upset for (some reason)?
- There's also the title of the thread calling the hexbear "racist", which I can't find even the distorted lib version of from reading the post.
- Your average NATO-leftist, folks. It’s like poetry. It rhymes.
- Theres the first red flag. This person is basically just an NPC with no real leanings that latches onto whatever appeals to them on an aesthetic levell off the internet.
  
  basically just an NPC
  Honestly I hate this framing, it's used a lot by the fascists to dehumanize people for not thinking exactly like them.
  The user is just a fucking lib, and always has been.

There's a very very fine line, maybe invisibly tiny, between "radicalizing people" and "sharing what you have slowly figured out without a guide by watching politics interact with the economy from 2006 on".
- As the OP demonstrates, our comrades on .world do a ton of advertising for us by complaining about us nonstop.
  
  I'm pretty sure @sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml and @Erika3sis@hexbear.net were radicalized by hexbear after it federated with the wider lemmyverse.

I'M IN THE SCREENSHOT, NOW I'M OFFICIALLY A TANKIE WOOO
- ayyy
- me on c/bestoflemmy (.world):

That nerd should post what their hexbear account name was or else I'm just going to assume this is made-up self
fanfic typed up by someone with a persecution complex
- Maybe. But we also have plenty of nostalgia posts here about "remember that struggle session?" Literally one just yesterday about the BRICS girls struggle. Again. There's even that hexbear lore iceberg meme image that floats around sometimes. All it takes is skimming a single nostalgia thread to get that level of hexbear specific knowledge.
  Their "the newsmega was the worst" part is what makes me think they probably were here for just a little while, though. Probably someone who couldn't let go of their imperialist brainworms and were flabbergasted at how we weren't all backing the poor smol bean wholesome Ukrainians and got their ass handed to them by people who actually have some understanding of geopolitics and history. The "treating it like football" is bizarre because the situation was the exact opposite, with the newsmega regulars often pointing out that that is exactly how the blue-and-yellow flag emoji people treat it, and ridiculing that kind of simplistic non-analysis. It's the typical accusation that's actually a confession.
  My guess is that it was some lib who fancied themselves a leftie, who hung out here once or twice before the Ukraine conflict kicked off (when the newsmega was created, basically), said something cringe about it after it did and got schooled as a result. Rather than learn, they ragequit, unable to fathom how people who clearly knew much more than they did didn't support the typical US State Dept. narratives, which they still hold dear to their heart. Now they have constructed some bullshit scenario about it for the .world hexbear-hatred thread that also made them feel better about themselves.
  
  well the burden on proof is on them. I think they're just so obsessed with hexbear hate that they deep-dived into the archives to build their "I was there!" persona.
- it's probably basedball idk

I love my trans comrades
RIP bozo, enjoy your reindoctrination into capitalist realism via your brainwormed therapist, and do all young people a favor by never speaking in their presence again
- RIP bozo, enjoy your reindoctrination into capitalist realism via your brainwormed therapist, and do all young people a favor by never speaking in their presence again>
  Right? Like no one is telling you that you have to wreck your mental health by focusing all your energy into how fucked we are but dont live in delusion. Especially when younger people are going to face the consequences.

Yeah hexbear should be more like the rest of the internet where russians, africans, chinese or anyone with a bit of melanin be subject to blood poison rhethoric and the suggestion of nuking undesirable countries are seen as a joke. And genocide is justified because "they were not angels".
- And genocide is justified because "they were not angels".
  Don't forget projecting support of genocide onto anti-imperialists.
  
  Ooooh that's my favorite. The scary boogeyman anti imperialist

first we were acused of "love bombing" now apparently we are an abusive partner and groomer of children lol
this is like the friendliest place on the internet (as long as you aren't a chud and are open to leftist thought)
we do have struggle sessions but i stay out of them (and they seem pretty rare these days)
- the love bombing thing was from some .world account when they were doing their "preemptive defederation". claimed we were love bombing but also 4chan and secretly right wing.
  but yeah there's like a fake, saccharine kind of "friendly" say in many places on reddit that is really artificial and cloying
  i don't mean that more that people tend to have real conversations here even if we are still all online-brained. none of the smarmy lib stuff. and yes there is a lot of passion but people know when to walk away and cool off generally
  
  i need context we were accused of love bombing??? what does that even mean?
  
  While people here on hexbear tend to be very empathetic and caring to each other, I've never seen the kind of coordinated cloying kindness you would associate with cult love bombing. The accusation especially falls apart when one considers users' reactions to someone mentioning their leaving from here; in my experience it's usually either supportive and kind in a way that doesn't go out of its way to try to get someone to stick around, or if they're leaving on bad terms, a swift ban.

WAIT YOU HEXBEARS ARE TANKIES????
- nobody can stop me!!!
  That's not true!! I know one surefire way to stop any tankie dead in their tracks!
  Ahem
  What's your opinion on the Uighur Genocide and Tinyman Square?
  
  smdh muh freeze peach tho

If you're younger on this site:
STOP liking

STOP liking

DO NOT believe in the red-brown alliance

AND DO upbear my posts

This isn't
, this is 1985. This is forward.

Very funny to see they have fash-lib infighting in their anticommunism comm

This user's post is so wrong.
First accusation is that it's more radical and mean than CTH was. I don't agree, CTH was fucking nuts at times. They're presenting it like it was a socdem space and this has gone way further left than it but you're talking about the subreddit that was banned for saying slavers should be killed and that spez is a slaver lmao. The sub practically went out of its way to be edgy and get banned. Moderation here is way tamer and less crazy.
Second accusation is that the site "dwindled" from any users to few. This ain't true either, hexbear is more active now than it has been.
There was never any divide over Russia-Ukraine. This user is literally making it up. There's definitely never been cheering over killing of civilians, you lying neoliberal fuckhead. Treating war like a football game? Projection.
"I went to therapy and it saved me" lmao libs literally always resort to "go to therapy" for fucking everything. Biggest giveaway this is a neoliberal larping.
"Now I look back on my several years as a hexbear user" you're absolutely full of shit mate.
This is a neoliberal that's skimmed the place a few times. Nothing more.
I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.
Literally nobody in the left WANTS murder. We're just not naive enough to think that the transition of power will ever be allowed to be peaceful. We'd love that, frankly, but every time that's been tried it has resulted in millions of communists being murdered without any means to defend themselves. The means to defend ourselves are necessary and we expect violence to be necessary because the ruling class will not allow a peaceful transition. That's NOT being pleased with the idea of murder at all. It's just understanding that peaceful revolution is not really allowed for what we want.
- Yeah kinda basic mistake right there. Especially with the frequent posts about modlog entries.
  I wonder if any of this is chatgpt... Are we in chatgpt's training data yet?
- How is murder childish? It is one of the more adult things out there.
  
  I bet they support Israel.
- Also the main thing that prob hurts hexbear's userbase is the defederation. I explicitly use lemmy.ml because I get to post here AND the few .world Comms that aren't dogshit

Projection:
- Lol these fools forgot that fucking jailbait amd was one of the biggest instances on reddit. i think even the most busy. Also congrats on the painstaking built community cheering kids killed in palestine and lebanon on many political subs.
  
  Painstakingly built in Langley, Virginia
- lemmy dot world IS the worst of Reddit 😭😭😭 was bending over backwards to censor piracy comms from the very beginning

Tbh Ive seen a lot of former chapos/dirtbag lefties go the lib social dem route. I cant imagine why besides some sort of copium to avoid realizing just how fucked everything is right now.
- Racism is a key underpinning for all those european soc dem states. Hell even the UN thinks Norway needs to chill with the racism.
  If anything European soc dem welfare states, are just white nationalist wet dreams where christian white men reap all the benefits at the expense of everyone else.
- Personally I love to stare into the gaping maw of destruction every day
- It's all treatbrain. The Westoid brainpan cannot cope with the idea that avoiding annihilation might require living near a brown person and eating more beans.
  
  Beans are a treat!!

- Only a Dunbar's Number worth of active users. Damn, I bet they all know each other and have some degree of social intimacy, unlike us cool dudes in Lemmy who shout endlessly into the void of anonymity.
- Don't we have like 10x that?
  
  We have like 5 active posters and each of us real posters have 300-400 alts. You have no idea how long it took me to fill out my quota of the latest survey results

Someone even crossposted it to a LW comm called Best of Lemmy. Wish I was joking
- lmao there's a "best of lemmy"?
  oh my god these reddit obessed dorks
  
  To be fair, it's pretty small and is intended to show off federation.
- Thanks, you're flattering me! But yea it's about as awful as you'd expect, lol. But thanks!
- Lol
  Bunch of dorks
  
  The OP of the LW thread keeps saying it's "interesting cult dynamics" and compares Hexbear to Jehovah's witnesses, lmao
- The mythology builds

The real trick is to not take any online community top seriously, whether you like it or hate it.
Failing that, don't post.
- trick is to not take any online community top seriously
  what about the community bottoms?
  
  Hey it's me, the bottom.
  E: also can this be in their next screenshot ragepost please? I'm old as fuck so it's not grooming.
- Participation in an online community is fundamentally less serious than an actual community, for one the stakes, in terms of community membership and exclusion and identify are much weaker.
  When this website started there were efforts to try to take it seriously in multiple ways. Things like admin accountability and due process for bans and all of that stuff were discussed to boredom (think user union). But all of that language and even that com have been discarded because none of that make sense to talk about for an online space that is at a fundamental level, privately owned by some person/people, and where the strongest sanction (banning) is so easily circumvented.

I have a lot of criticisms that I both do and don't share regarding this shithole website, which I have been on since day one (not this account), but not once have I seen people cheer for the deaths of Ukrainian civilians. Off-duty soldiers? Yeah, probably, but those are still soldiers.

As a Hexbear who is rapidly approaching 30 (oh god oh god), I agree with them and think we should ban any poster under the age of 18 sorry Blake
- I'm an over-30 and don't worry comrade, I'm much better now than I was in my 20s

"Not all heroes wear capes" - Me referring to ZPoster for bullying this lib so hard they still remember getting repeatedly owned all these years later
- I honestly don't know if that's the original account. I just call them ZPoster.
  
  Wait the op in the image is Zed Proclaimer? Wtf he was one of the more hardlined ML posters on here

boy that sure is a lot of words I’m not gonna read

The war made the social-imperialists show their true colors
- First as a tragedy (ww1), second time as a farce.

150-200 users
Huh you don't say?
So that was a fuckin lie.
Pretty sure this is one of the most active instances in the entire fediverse despite these nerds trying to scare people away from us through unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander.
- I just wanted to squeeze in a Lenin reference to show off how cool and learned I am in the dark arts.

The post this is under is just as cancerous. They're upset about there being a 16 year old on here and are trying to frame it as "the eeevil gommunists are grooming your innocent children!!". It's even more mask off when considering the recent site survey showing that almost half of hexbear users are trans
- it's funny because reading the exbear's account of things was giving me detrans vibes
  
  Could you elaborate?

100-200 lmao
- In the "Best Of Lemmy" thread for this comment I pulled receipts of 1.5k WAU or around there, 1.8k MAU.

I've been here since pretty early on and I think the worst elements here got purged pretty early on
As for hatred, this is one of the goofiest claims
We have beanis, anti-nautilism and

Just because we talk about serious issues and have opinions that aren't "The Norm" doesn't make us bloodthirsty
Fuck, I think most of us are disturbed by the events of the world and aren't just going to retreat into Treats™️ and slop to deal with it like all of these fucking dorks
- Like, it's funny because they will say shit like "We have to send the Army to protect democracy!" without ever even doing a little self-reflection
- anti-nautilism
  What did Nautiloidea do to warrant hatred?
  
  It's a play on anti-natalism, which remains a contentious issue
  
  Hexbear has too many landlubbers.

TFW you get offer from raytheon

Dwindled down to 100-200
ROFL, Hexbear is bigger than the stormfront sub ever was.

I also left near the start of the Ukraine War, people on the news mega were acting pretty weird (and still kind of do)
- Yea there were a few patsocs back then
- Yeah, I think we still kinda have this problem. It's most notable when something happens that is both horrible and ruinous for working-class people while also being bad for the United States on a broad level. There's a tendency to ignore the former while cheering on the latter. It's not good.
  
  There is a huge and very justified hatred against
  Comments that seem like calls for mass destruction of the USA are not really intended towards the working class people, it's mostly just a way to cope when we go over the top with it. What we really need is for the USA as an imperialist project to finally lose its power and give way to a new world free from the hard grip of the imperialists.

Did a leftie write this? That wall of text is so gigantic it's like a brief thought from disco elysium; I ain't reading all that; I'll wait for the TV miniseries
- expressed disgust that people claiming to be in their 30s and 40s are manipulating "young aduls and even kids". claims that only people with a "seriously damaged worldview" could be a part of hexbear at that age.
  "Seriously damaged worldview" makes me sound so cool and mysterious
  
  Choosing to believe that this guy is @LiberalSocialist

i fucking despise the dredge tank but this is kinda funny
- because i detest it so much i want to continue justifying to myself my own detestment
  
  Also the one comm I block

who tf is posting war footage in hexbear? lmfao getting riled up at something that never happened

And everybody clapped...

The political spectrum is a torus
horsepoo rebranded to 🍩 theory
- Explaining the horshoe theory to an American: "Imagine yourself at a Dunkin Donuts"

- thanks! does this mean i'm a real tankie now?

Sorry guys, I've been drinking human blood and messaging this guy about it for some time now. I thought it would play well, but I've just made everyone upset at us. My bad, maybe one of you guys could suggest that you will drink less human blood from now on and it will be fine? I would take it upon myself, but stacking more lies can only hurt us at this point.

Shouldn't it be "formerly known as chapochat" not "formally"? dipshit spells worse than I do

Haha, I sure hope we are, then posting would actually be praxis

- absolutely nobody that frequents hexbear is gonna use TIL in a non-ironically poisoned way.
  👀 learn something new everyday

At the end of the first paragraph, what're they talking about chapochat? What is chapochat?
- In the beginning, the site's domain was chapo.chat instead of hexbear.net.
  
  Chapo? Like the drug dealer?

when the current ukraine-russia war started, the cracks were widening. a subsection of hexbear started to dominate. they were more openly bloodthirsty
they're almost assuredly talking about me lmao

As long as you guys welcome and tolerate CCP propaganda while demonizing Americans for doing the same shit, you will have an uphill battle convincing Westerners that your ideology is the one to invest in.
- It's the level of honesty that really gets everyone, not the bombing, killing, and stealing all over the world! As if it is such an easy task to even find proper Chinese propaganda.
- Tell me an example of actually-existing socialism in a non-western nation you support, despite its flaws, and maybe I'll consider yer point
- Tell us o wise liberal of the lake, what is this CCP propaganda you speak of?