DEA to reclass marijuana to Schedule III
DEA to reclass marijuana to Schedule III

In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.

Bout damn time
DEA to reclass marijuana to Schedule III
In a historic shift, the U.S. moves to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, AP sources say.
Bout damn time
It was predictable that this would get delayed to an election year.... but at least fucking finally!!!
"Winston Churchill once famously observed that Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else."
Langworth has combed through millions of words written by and about Churchill and found no evidence that the former prime minister ever said that about America.
Well, just look at lemmy users around anything Biden related. No matter what, you'll get people only talking about Gaza, and disregard all of the other good his administration has done for the 3.5 years they have been working.
This is why politicians wait for the popular, easy wins until its campaigning time. People have a short memory, and it's always whatever the last big news story is that drives voters.
I'd argue the opposite in a lot of cases, but not all.
I'm more excited about the medical portion of re-classifying.
edit I thought you meant the effects not the effects, so I agree with you.
I thought you meant the effects not the effects
Not sure that edit is clearing anything up.
I think they meant wrt the federal government.
But less bad than Fentanyl and other C-IIs, it sounds like.
This would have been a baby step 10 years ago if we're being generous. California's medical marijuana program has been a legal gray area since 1996. So what we can expect federal legalization in another 20 years at this rate? If biden touts this on the campaign trail as an accomplishment I'm going to lose my god damn mind.
This is so long overdue it doesn't deserve celebration, it deserves a "what took so long, this isnt even controversial". If your partner/roommate has been telling you to do the dishes for 20 years and you finally wash some you don't get to turn around and go "look at me, I did 20% of the dishes! aren't I great!"
I mean, that's a pretty slippery slope of logic you're on. We should have addressed anthropogenic climate change in the 70s, but I'm not gonna poo-poo the progress we've made.
I know it sucks that so many things change on a generational scale instead of a year scale, but I was also pretty damn happy about all that institutional inertia slowing down the hard-right turn we took during Trump’s 1st term.
Our federal government always moves slowly and almost always is decades behind popular opinion, that’s not news. What is news is that someone did something, and that person is Joe Biden. Even if it’s long overdue, and even if it could be better, he acted on the opportunity to make it happen and that deserves credit.
That not how any of this works. Politics requires these kind of changes to move gradually. The states went first and showed that it can work, albeit with severe hampering from the federal government.
Now there seems to be a public support for the next step and this is to gear up to allow dispensaries to become federally legal, have bank accounts and such. The government can then also regulate it in therma of quality and safety.
We all see the damaging nature of alcohol so that comparison is always a bit strange imho.
So we agree this is overdue, we disagree how much of a milestone this step is.
The biggest thing this does imo is unlock the ability for federal research dollars to study marijuana. There’s some other good thing sure that’ll pay dividends later on as steps towards more harm reduction, but getting off Schedule I IS a big step, if not a complete step to righting the wrongs of the war on (some) drugs.
That roommate analogy hit me right in the feels. Was just thinking yesterday if my roommate even decided to do the trash or any cleaning once soon, i wouldn't even be happy bc it hasn't been done in 3+ years and there's much to make up for. But positive reinforcement and all right? It took long, but we should probably celebrate if it does happen to keep encouraging the process and stoke that flame. Firmly stating "good job so far, but the job's not done yet."
Sounds like a half-assed fuck up, that's still 6mo to 3y. For weed. still gonna go to jail, still get a record, still get your life ruined, still over fucking weed. The idea that jail is the appropriate punishment for drug addiction is utterly unjustifiable at this point, yet here we are, still pretending we're something other than just wrong. Sunk cost fallacy I guess. Guess they felt they couldn't just come out and do the right thing after having ruined tens(?) of thousands of lives for no reason
It moves pot to Schedule III, alongside ketamine...
Cool. Does this mean the next time the cops tell the EMTs to sedate someone they will skip the ketamine and just give the poor guy a gummy? I hope so. It'd save lives.
I don't know about weed for that purpose... sometimes makes people more anxious. It'd be better if they just stopped forcing drugs on people period without the oversight of an actual doctor.
Hold on, I think you're right but the cops should carry around gummies and offer them to people. I can't think of a better outreach program
“STOP RESISTING! STOP RESISTING OR I WILL MAKE YOU HIT THIS BLUNT”
YOU MOTHERFUCKERS WILL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE! THAT'S RIGHT, I'M GONNA FUCKIN'....Fuckin'....fuckin'.....oh hey, you guys all right? What? On my head? Sure....what? Yeah I could probably use a lie down right now anyway.
SIR GET DOWN
I hope not. It'd take 2 hours and would just make me weird and nervous.
Ken Paxton about to sue the feds in 3...2...1
You know he’s gonna, right after he wrings out and drinks his nightly baby.
This thread demonstrates the idealogical purism and lack of pragmatic political expectations from leftists and progressives. There is literally nothing the Biden admin can do that will ever be enough because it doesn't match some rosy fucking dreamland that only lives in your heads. Descheduling is huge, and signals the end of 100 years of madness with cannabis laws. If you want more, then we need to have more legislative power to implement it.
This is a fucking win, dumbasses.
Under Nixon, yes THAT Nixon, Congress wanted to pass UBI, but Democrats voted it down thinking it didn't offer enough cash...
Even though common sense would tell you that establishing a UBI and raising it would be easier than getting a good paying UBI out of the gate
Yeah celebrate your wins or you may find yourself getting fewer
This is dumb. You’ve got thousands of recreational dispensaries all over the country. States are pretty much operating in violation of federal law already because the federal law is so out of touch. Maybe change the law to be more in line with what states are actually doing?
Do we get to wait another 50 years before they make recreational marijuana legal?
I don’t even smoke weed and I think this is dumb.
What you are suggesting is a legislative action. The nation needs to provide enough legislative power to happen.
The DEA has authority to schedule marijuana, it doesn't require legislation.
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Why do we even have a DEA? It’s like putting cops in charge of which medicine you should take. They aren’t the ones who should be making the calls here.
"We knew we couldn't arrest people for being pro-civil rights or against the war, but by associating crack with black people and marijuana with hippies, we could disrupt their movements. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did!" - Paraphrasing of the Nixon Administration recounting the "Good ol' days"
associating
crackwith black people
Crack did not exist in at that time. The CIA didn't flood black communities with it until the 80s.
So that way disabled people know who’s boss
Like seriously as someone unable to function without prescription stimulants that’s how it’s always felt
The Enforcement part
You think doctors are going to be arresting addicts on the street? Then they are just cops
Critics point out that as a Schedule III drug, marijuana would remain regulated by the DEA. That means the roughly 15,000 cannabis dispensaries in the U.S. would have to register with the DEA like regular pharmacies and fulfill strict reporting requirements, something that they are loath to do and that the DEA is ill equipped to handle.
Aren't these dispensaries currently registered with the DEA? Why would lowering it on the schedule change that?
I think currently they're not. They're registered to their state as they're still technically illegal at the federal level. The DEA has taken kind of a don't ask don't tell approach to marijuana and is currently relying on a patchwork of state regulations to manage it because for a variety of (terrible) reasons they haven't taken the sane step of reclassifying it. It honestly shouldn't be a scheduled drug or at worst a schedule 4. Moving it from schedule 1 to 3 is better than nothing, but it's still a chicken shit maneuver.
Devil's advocate here...
I'm pretty sure the DEA has a ton of funding directly tied to Marijuana enforcement, they can't just deschedule it entirely without losing that funding immediately. Those funding requirements need to be reclassified for other uses.
They are registered to the various states programs, but I can’t imagine there is a way to register with the DEA to sell a Schedule 1 drug for recreational use.
As someone unfamiliar with the law my guess would be that the DEA doesn't have mechanisms in place to register distributors of schedule 1 substances, since it doesn't recognize them as having any legitimate use.
It also means regular pharmacies can sell it, and via normal banking channels.
will this mean it can be prescribed in every state? By any doctors? Will it be able to covered by insurance? Medicaid/Medicare?
From a medical marijuana perspective it wouldn't change much for states where it is still illegal. It will make things easier for people who are prescribed it in states where it is legal, and hopefully for places that produce or sell marijuana that are currently locked out of banking and payment systems. This would also allow Medicare to at least consider covering it in those states, but they wouldn't necessarily have to. Medicare coverage decisions are made by the center for Medicare and Medicaid services, we'll have to see after this change goes through what they determine. They do also already cover FDA approved medications based on cannibinoid ingredients like marinol or epidiolex which are pharmaceutical preparations of delta 9 thc and cannibidiol respectively (these are already available in every state since they are fda approved). Private insurance also will make their own determinations about whether they will cover it or not, but with this change there is a chance they could, whereas before there was no possible way. Medicaid coverage is mostly determined by each individual state.
The only way this would over ride state law and allow medical marijuana into a state that doesn't have legal marijuana would be if somehow the marijuana plant itself got an FDA approval, but that is very unlikely for a lot of reasons, foremost that the marijuana plant has a large mix of many different drugs with many differences in amounts and ratios of those drugs from strain to strain, plant to plant, different parts of the plant, or even the same plant at different times in its life. It's not like, heroin, or fentanyl, or cocaine which are specific chemicals. You could never really say "marijuana plants in general" have a specific indication for a specific disease, it would need to be much more specific in terms of what is actually being given, and only that would have the evidence and therefore the FDA approval. Like take epidiolex/cannibidiol for instance, a single chemical, 25 mg/kg/day was found effective as an add on therapy to another primary therapy for reduction in seizure frequency in children with Lennox gestaut syndrome and dravet syndrome. That's the specific indication and dosage that the FDA agrees is effective based on the evidence. Lots of other reasons too you'd never see an FDA approval for "all marijuana plants in general," but the unpredictable mix of tons of different drugs across many many strains of marijuana plants and variability between the plants itself is enough to make this a practical impossibility. It's definitely contributed a few medications that have roles in certain diseases though, like many other plants before it.
In short, you'll still need to convince individual states to legalize it or make medical marijuana laws if you want an actual marijuana plant or plant preparation prescribed to you. Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance coverage could all be different (and even different by insurance company), but there's at least a chance it could give coverage now, whereas it was impossible before. This also makes marijuana research easier and helps reduce any federal criminal penalties.
What does that mean for...my friend...that has to renew their security clearance?
Probably nothing immediately. The biggest advantages of rescheduling are in regard to federal sentencing guidelines and, imo more importantly, federal funding for research. Schedule 1 drugs (which MJ is currently) are defined as having no medical value, so research funding is practically impossible.
10 days too late
Why?
Your username is fucking incredible.
Jimmy eats AU sage... Mmmm golden sage
Jim - my! (eats a us age)
Or Australian.
About time
Abolish the DEA
And move the goalposts.
Weed.
(This is my 1,000th comment on Lemmy!)
Indeed
This is the right direction.
The proposal, which still must be reviewed by the White House Office of Management and Budget
Is there any federal employee we don't have to ask first?
Oh shit, skipping the hell that is II
I wonder if the UN will send another letter against this move.
Won't solve the world's problems but okay.
Not sure if anyone claimed it was going to solve the world's problems by reclassifying this in the US, but you are correct.
Reclassification at the international level requires support from the international community. Singapore is against reclassification of cannabis due to proximity with the opium poppy-laden region called Golden Triangle.
Imagine simping for this.
An unelected bureaucrat in an agency gets to decide how illegal a plant is. And then, they decide it's still dangerous, just not as dangerous as psilocybin, more along the lines of cocaine.
Progress, whatever, you're still under a boot.
Like what are you trying to achieve with this comment? Everyone knows it should be descheduled entirely, but are acknowledging progress.
Your comment just reeks of negativity in an already bleak situation.
Edit acknowledging progress is not simping.
Schedule 3 is like Tylenol with codine. They decided it was like Tylenol.
But yes, I'm happy some bureaucrat is there defining safety standards. Sure they get some things wrong. But also, there's no sawdust or chalk in bread anymore.
They also saved a bunch of lives by not approving thalidomide in the US.
imagine things getting better for people. what a bunch of bootlickers.