J.K. Rowling uses Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organization
J.K. Rowling uses Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organization

J.K. Rowling uses Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organization

J.K. Rowling uses Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organization
J.K. Rowling uses Harry Potter wealth to fund anti-transgender organization
And for filler treatments apparently.
rowling also wants to retcon the og cast members of the films, because they dont like to be associated with her transphobia.
Which is ridiculous because we need 35 year old Daniel Radcliffe to play a 6th grader.
the thing i don't get is why people are focused on the transgender community so much?
They want to hate on someone but it's passé to hate on plain old gay people now.
Trans and brown people are trendy now.
IMO its always about scapegoating, you need to find a minority which is prevelant enough for people to have encountered, but not too many that they're in everyone's family or work or friend circle - and that won't have significant civic or voting power.
Post-ww2, ethnic divisions are more taboo, gay rights are too broadly popular to pursue, but trans people are the conservatives best punching down opportunity, while trying to appeal to people on the fence by being 'virtuous' and 'saving the kids'.
Pirating Harry Potter stuff is now not only a moral thing to do, but almost a moral obligation.
I have always hated Harry Potter. I hated Harry before it was cool to hate Harry.
I'm a mother fucking golden hipster God!
I’d say just don’t engage with it at all.
If someone talks about it, pretend ignorance. Like total ignorance of any aspect of the stories.
Or, if someone mentions it, just say you don’t give bigots money.
Editing to expand: by pirating you are perpetuating the cultural impact. The majority of people pay for access to this media, and by engaging with it you make it more costly for other people to skip it.
Even if you pirated, speaking about the movies will encourage other people to watch it, and they might not pirate it. It's indirect, but it could still give that transphobic doll money
Maybe once they are dead, because history is history. But otherwise...
Just pirated the whole movie series lol
This is why the new tv series will be hated by all. They had a chance to remake and sanitize the series away from the grimy hands of JK and instead they doubled down. So if anything this remake might be even more offensive.
The wild thing is that growing up I had all the conservatives and bible people trying to stop us kids from reading the demonic Harry Potter novels. Now that they realize the author is one of them, they suddenly love the books about witchcraft!
They had a chance to remake and sanitize the series away from the grimy hands of JK
Did they really? My impression was that she used her copyright control
Unfortunately, they won't be hated. A lot of people don't actually care all that much about trans people :(
Or anyone else for that matter
They will cast Snape as black and the audience will wonder why Harry immediately hates him.
Are you not aware that Snape literally has been cast as black? Because if not that's hilarious coincidence.
That’s the confusing thing to me, clearly the left audience is done with JK, but the show is also pissing off the right with “woke casting”
It's one thing to still support someone despite them having some problematic opinions on the side. I do it, you probably do it, it annoys the shit out of me to know that this thing that I like is made by someone who shares opinion with which I strongly disagree with, sometimes that are even against me, personally, as a trans person.
But not understanding something, being ignorant and being kind of an asshole about it, is very different than what this hateful bitch is doing. She has dedicated her entire life to make people like me fucking miserable. And it's working!
I'm having a very hard time reconciling the fact that lots of people love Harry Potter and some people in my entourage are the same and they will support and pay for stuff made by this horrendous person regardless because this universe means that much to them. My sister is like that. I'm having a very hard time with that. I don't want to be that person... but fuck this hurts.
The worst part is that most people don't know about it. Most people don't know how much of a hateful, awful person J.K. Rowling is. And I have to admit, those people in my life, I'm genuinely afraid of telling them. Because I know that there is a chance that I'll tell them everything, and that in the end, they won't change a thing. Because my rights as a human being matters less to them. And I don't want to find that out...
I hate everything about this.
I'm not trans, but I feel your pain. It sucks, a lot. Why do people have to be so hateful?
Low IQ and a lack of hobbies
I think that you shouldn’t tell people to stop enjoying what they love but to stop buying and funding her campaign.
It is hard to convince people to give up on their interests but it is reasonable to tell them where the money goes.
I myself I am mostly pirating all stuff. I could even help someone pirate it and do it for them. I think they would understand and agree to it. I would add that If they buy something from hp we are not friends/family anymore but if you ask me to pirate it then we could watch it together.
That’s my advice on how to approach this in a reasonable manner and if you need help pirating any hp stuff PM me and I will explain how to set everything up
First, let me start with saying I am sorry. Currently, the world seems very preoccupied with cocks and vagina's and who should have what. (Kinda weird, but yeah).
I love Harry Potter. It was the first series of books that really resonated with me. It is really sad to see that someone, who came from nothing and gained it all. Could live the dream, have all the money and affection, is such a massive cunt.
Yet somehow, it doesn't make me stop loving Harry Potter. When reading the books again, it reminds me of my childhood. Me reading at 2:00 in the morning underneath the blankets with a pocket light in me mouth to not let anyone know I am not sleeping. Daydreaming about such a world where magic exist.
The solution, I am afraid, is something I cannot provide. Money buys news, news poisons the minds. I stand for humanity, and all humans. No matter which configuration. And if someone wants to have a nice pair of tits and cunt instead of a dick, go on and have your merry life.
...
I don't know if this is helpful or not. What is your solution?
It is important to separate art and artist.
People get a lot of comfort out of religious text knowing next to nothing about the author(s).
This also means you can hate on JK Rowling without making any connection to HP.
You can separate the art from the artist for sure but when people are buying HP branded stuff, they are directly contributing to this.
No. I'm so tired of this. You can like the IP but you can't spend a single dime on it without funding transphobia. That's what we are talking about here.
Edit: The IP also should just die. Its popularity fuels hateful policies and attitudes against my existence.
Edit: This comment on it says it succinctly: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/26719393/14648789
It is important to separate art and artist.
I completely disagree, both on a subjective selfish aesthetic level, and on a moral level.
On the aesthetic side, you're doing yourself a huge disservice by making this separation. You're missing out on this whole other dimension a piece of art has to offer you; namely the context that the author operates in. Star Wars gains this whole other rich level of interpretation if you consider the fact that George Lucas lived through the invasion of Vietnam and other forms of US imperialism and completely opposes it, for example. You're missing out by ignoring the author.
On the moral side, the argument is more obvious, I think. By ignoring the author you're denying yourself the opportunity to spend your money and support folks in a way that aligns with your own morals. In my case, I consider trans people people, and think they deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. Since I know J K Rowling completely disagrees, I know that if I spend money on her, I will be putting money in the pocket of someone, and platforming them, who actively works against my morals. And I'm thankful for being able to know that spending money on her goes counter to my own morality.
FUCK OFF JK YOU FUCKING TWAT.
Thar is all
And this is why we boycott these cunts. Stop reading the books, stop watching the films, stop buying the merch, and stop playing the games. Every dollar you spend goes towards funding hate. All of these "separate the art from the artist" people can fuck off. If you actually believe that, YOU are the problem.
You can't with her. She will have infinite money until the day she dies and will keep spending it on hate. Some people are too far ahead to boycott successfully and unfortunately she is one. Hopefully she pays in the next life
Just because you've given up doesn't mean anyone else should. You don't have to be able to solve the problem to at least stop making the problem worse. Tiny incremental progress is better than perfection, because the latter doesn't exist, and if it did, it would be made out of lots of tiny incremental progress.
Rowling doesn't get paid when you buy used. Got the entire set of movies or books? Sell them to a used book store or donate them to the library. Give them away on Craigslist. Make it easy for people not to buy them new. Also, boycott new media like the HBO series by cancelling your subscription or calling out the actors online for participating.
Not that I see any chance of it, but I'd love to see her get sued into oblivion (i.e. by the people directly harmed by her) as we've seen with the likes of Alex Jones.
Watching such a fall from grace would be enormously satisfying.
Not only that, but he doubled down on it! I can't remember the exact quote but it was something along the lines of "that judge was jealous. Everyone wants to fuck a 13 year old." FFFFFUUUUCK. Goddamn these rich fucking cunts. I don't think there is anything that gets me more charged up than hearing about a fucking pedophile that got a lenient sentence. The only purpose they can serve this world is to be made an example of. A brutal, sadistic example.
Tom Cruise is another example I fucking love to give. His movies keep Scientology afloat (in the case of sea org, literally). His movie's profits fund slavery and abuse. STOP WATCHING HIS FUCKING MOVIES.
He drugged and raped a 13 year old child.
I hope everyone here is sane enough to understand that that is a lot worse than what JK is doing.
My kid's school do a trip to Harry Potter World. I think it will be next year for him. I really don't want to give my money to that vile woman, but I also don't want him missing out. Looks like it's time to start petitioning the school to go somewhere else.
That's a phenomenal idea. If they push back, you could always involve your local paper. It kinda depends on where you live and the political leanings, though. If you are in the red, it may not do any good.
I would beg my kids not to eat at Chick Fil A, but inevitably hanging out with friends they would end up there on occasion well aware of their stance on various issues. Whenever they did eat there, I would make a $50 donation to GLAAD. I felt it was a small gesture to at least bring some balance to the Universe.
I just find this argument to be ridiculous. If you grew up with the bookes and movies and own them what harm are you doing by still enjoying those memories?
Enjoy the memories the books gave you, reread them if you still have the books if you want, but don't buy more new stuff from that author.
Don't buy tickets to the Harry Potter experience, don't watch the new series or get the new game.
Because you are going to talk about them. You are going to let others borrow them. They may decide they want a copy of their owm. Or they may talk to others about it, and those people may decide to get copies of their own. Do you see how this works?
Could always pirate them
"Seperate the art from the artist" is great... when they're dead. As always, you have to consider where the money goes. While she's alive it goes to her, and she uses it to do evil.
What would happen if some TG activists and/or allies set up a combined small publishing house and retail store that sold copies of her books without permission or royalties paid, perhaps even DVDs of her movies?
It doesn't matter. Keeping her in the cultural zeitgeist is the same as giving her money directly. We live in a connected world. Word of mouth is engagement, and engagement drives profit. Talking about her works to friends, family, or strangers on the internet keeps her relevant. The most gracious thing we can do is to force her into obscurity. Every other solution that benefits humanity involves cutlery and an iron will.
What a miserable person. More money than God and all she can do is sit around hating people she’s never met.
Boycotts work! Don’t watch her show on HBO and cancel your subscription after The Last of Us season finale of course. If her brand becomes toxic nobody will fund projects around it and she will fade into obscurity.
To many people care more about their immediate shiny than any lasting harm their actions do in the world.
Just look at how quickly the Nintendo Switch 2 sold out preorders, despite explicitly telling customers they won't even own the device, and thus nintendo can fucking brick the thing whenever they want.
I didn't subscribe to HBO when Game of Thrones was airing, I'm not about to start now.
Don’t watch anything of hers on anything, like she’ll still be getting royalties for films.
The difference between not being keen on trans people and making a few shitposts versus actively devoting time and money towards oppressing them is HUGE.
This isn’t just someone with an alternative opinion we’re talking about. It’s someone using more wealth than a lot of us will never touch, to fuck over an already marginalised group. She’s pure fucking evil.
It's loathsome because she has chosen to use her vast wealth to punch down.
Sadly I'm still going to hear "Oh she gives to LGBT Charities, she just doesn't agree with transpeople on EVERY little thing, doesn't mean she's a transphobe."
Let
Harry
Potter
Die
Just let it go.
They won't and its crazy. I know people that just CAN'T because they made it part of their personality.
The amount of people with Deathly Hallows tattoos is crazy. My partner is among them
I know a trans person who still consumes HP media. I didn't respect them before they came out and transitioned and I sure as hell not going to start now. They've always been a selfish Adult Child and they'll never stop being one.
The artist is not the same as the work.
The world of Harry Potter, the books, the movies, future shows or whatever involve a lot more people than just this fucking idiot shit writer. And a shitty person can anyway create a good thing that helps people.
Now in this case where the author is still alive, let people enjoy harry Potter stuff, while asking people to not send money her way. Help people pirate her books if they really want to read them, pirate the shows and movies. Better yet, make those involved in the shows and movies voice their opinion against her, make the money going to those works support trans people to counter JK. Make her see her works support the causes she hates.
Alienating people for liking some book series, movie or show that was made, paid, produced, written or whatever by some asshole won't help the situation. In other words, in this case, harry Potter is not the problem, it's the author.
Harry Potter is part of the problem. I am totally onboard with the idea of 'The Death of the Author', which is the concept that something like Harry Potter is much more than just intellectual property owned by a person. It's a shared cultural experience which is so much bigger than one person it becomes impossible to say the author owns it.
However, J.K. is using the profits from her intellectual property to hurt people. Harry Potter is being used as a tool to hurt people. As much as I hate to say it, Harry Potter is part of the problem. At least for now. So pirate it, consume her IP without ever paying her a penny.
Also she's not Trans rights are human rights but she wrote pollyjuice potion into her world...
Read them with a little media literacy. Birth/Blood nature keeps coming up and was one the reasons I was getting uncomfortable with the story and dropped half way though. Hagrid is naturally angry. Voldemort is evil because he was a rape baby. House Elves are natural slavesservants. The Weasley family will always be poor(even when Harry should be paying rent or at least buying them a new car). Hell, the Irish character keeps blowing things up. This mind set in her writing reflects to JK's views on trans. You are the way you are at birth.
Let it go, let it goooo
Can’t she just take up knitting or photography or racing driving?
No, because she's still traumatized by the thought that Corbyn could have won, and could have raised her taxes.
"You hurt a community the most by going after their most vulnerable."
No because we all keep talking about her.
I'd prefer she take up parachuteless BASE diving, personally.
Is that Titanic sub company still in business?
Appreciated, I just don’t get why people choose hate as a hobby when there are much better options.
What a miserable person. I can't imagine having her wealth and using it to try to hurt people.
This is just sad. What could have made JKR use her wealth in such an unkind way?
she seems to have been harboring these feeling since she before she wrote harry potter, there are many people attributing her books to transphobia and antisemitism in a subltle way.
moaning myrtle probably killed herself because she wasn't accepted.
Transgenders are living rent-free in her head.
What a sad, hateful person who has squandered an opportunity to actually do something good with her considerable wealth and previous social capital.
Imagine what good things could be done with the money instead of using it for stuff that's non of her business. The older they get, the more conservative they turn out to be - sad for someone who brought a wonderful world to life once...
#piratepotter don't let a dime go to Rowling or those trying to benefit from her.
Or just read other books, watch other movies, and so on. Like, Harry Potter is genuinely not even that good
What?? The only books that exist are:
Agreed.
Got kids? Percy Jackson (and the other Rick Riordan written) series are great. Older kids? Get them reading chuck wendig or Margaret Killjoy.
Introduce yourself to Kafka and Marquez and Butler and Morrison and so many other great great writers who make JK Rowling look like the utter hack she is.
As someone who doesn't have the nostalgia goggles for HP, it's always insane to me how many adults still love that shit. They're YA novels... Like read a grown-up book, and maybe you'll realize how mediocre they were.
It's like Disney Adults...
Yeah it’s wild looking at the books with adult eyes at the house elves and goblins and so on.
Btw: The Magicians TV series was fun to watch (haven't read the source materials yet).
gently pushes Katalepsis by Hazel Young your way
I had someone recommend Rivers of London as an alternative magic learning protag series, and I’m enjoying it, but it’s more noir detective than Harry Potter. Which works in its favor IMO.
If anyone wants a suggestion may I suggest Yojou Senki/The Saga of Tanya the Evil, it's really good once you get past the fact that the English version devolves into technical documents at times. But the author apparently plays Hoi3, which honestly explains a lot about the books in general.
The world would be fine without Harry Potter, and better without JK Rowling.
Y'er a pirate, Harry
Don't even pirate it. She doesn't deserve your mindshare.
There are many better authors out there who are also better humans.
Okay, I'm sure I'll get vote-bombed here, please don't jump the gun, I'm pro lgbtq+. I don't give a shit who or how someone loves, just hope they're allowed to be happy with themselves (unless they're hurting people, obviously).
I believe trans rights, and womens rights, are human rights. I don't think anybody should be treated differently due to gender, sex, race, or orientation, and they shouldn't be discriminated against in any way. I'm just trying to make sure I understand fully for when I defend the pro trans position that I believe to be correct.
I started looking further into this because a friend of mine, which is a total HP nerd, was trying to give me some context on where her anti-trans activism comes from. It SEEMS like she mostly wants to make sure women stay safe (paraphrasing her own words here). In Scotland apparently they're changing things so that a dude can just say he's not a dude, and be legally allowed in all women only spaces if they register with the government or whatever. I can absolutely see how that could be used in a predatory manor, and can see that side of the argument.
I just read her piece here: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/ To make sure I'm getting as complete of a look at the situation as I can.
And it confused the issue a little for me. All of her arguments seem to be coming from a place of reason, and some of them made sense (if the referenced stats were true). Most of her arguments seem to come from a "I don't want to make it easier for male predators to prey on women" standpoint, which makes sense at the surface level.
is the current climate making it fashionable to transition? I find it hard to believe someone would go that far without truly thinking it's the right thing to do, but some people are highly influenced by peer pressure. I can also see maybe some women wanting to change to escape the misogyny of our current world. I'm a straight cis-male, and I can't personally resonate with the idea of changing that because it's "popular" or whatever, so I don't put a lot of credence into that argument, but I'm not everyone 🤷.
I also understand that sex and gender are separate, and Rowling seems to be on the train that conflates it, which might be the basis for her position.
Please help me learn and understand. Someone with more context or knowledge, please let me know. I'd love the opinion of some trans folks if you see this. Rowling says she's getting support from trans women for her positions. And I'm sure that's true, there's bound to be some, like there's women who support patriarchy.
Edit, reordered my statements so my current position is clear at the start
As a cis man who is only tangentially acquainted with transgender issues, and as a person who isn't particularly eloquent, I cannot do this topic justice myself. You'll have to trust me when I say that the image of "just any bloke can call himself a woman and go into the bathroom and assault women" is language that is deeply colored by propaganda, and has no basis in reality. When you indulge in language and ideas like that, you are doing harm. Similarly, the "men doing women's sports" idea is harmful to both cis and trans women, and has, again 0 basis in reality.
If you are truly interested, and not some right wing troll who's "just asking questions" (we get a lot of those on .world, it's like the instance attracts them), please, please give these YouTube videos a watch:
https://youtu.be/EmT0i0xG6zg https://youtu.be/qfUsuQ8rfu4
The shorter one is from a cis man, but it seems to me that he explains the idea very well, at least behind the sports thing. And I promise that the longer one is worth it. It will help you understand a deeply marginalized segment of the population much better, and you will be a better person for it. I think that's worth 2 hours.
It boils down to this for me: If some bad actor is going to pretend to be trans to access some naked lady area, why are we trying to punish actual trans people for that by taking away their access to bathrooms and healthcare?
It’s just stupid.
Thank you for this. I will absolutely go through both videos.
I appreciate the context you provided as well. In my mind it makes sense that someone willing to break the law to hurt people isn't going to stop because the sign on the door says it's not for them. That argument never felt particularly strong to me, and I'm glad that you've affirmed it basically doesn't happen.
I'm no troll, and am truly trying to understand further.
Thanks again for your time, I hope to be able to watch those videos soon.
JK Rowling argument put simply is that women need a safe space, that there are opportunistic men that will abuse workarounds that let them access this safe space, therefore there needs to be tighter regulations on who can enter the safe space.
Does she address that argument in some part of the video?
As far as I know, if you're a dude, you can already just walk into womens bathrooms. There aren't police outside or anything checking peoples pants. There's not some epidemic of people legally transitioning just so they can be predators.
These laws end up hurting women, who were born women and were always women, who don't happen to look "feminine" enough (ETA: or the opposite, cis men who don't look manly enough), and people start harassing them for using the bathroom they were meant to use.
If you want to go after predators, go after predators. It's not that hard. You don't need to go after trans people to do that.
i was going to say transphobia always relate to mysogyny and homophobia as well.
Yeah that one argument never felt particularly strong to me anyway, like men transitioning to win at sports or whatever.
My comment to her is that we need to enforce anti-harassment laws in all spaces. I don't care if you're a man harassing a man, a man harassing a woman, a woman harassing a man, or a woman harassing a woman, the cops should come take you away and ... educate you why we don't do that shit in a civilised society. And you don't need to make a person presenting as a woman use the men's washroom, or a person presenting as a man use a woman's washroom, to make that happen! In short, you don't need to be a dick to people.
Fun fact. I saw a recent news article where a trans-man (i.e., born female, presents as male) went into the woman's washroom because the only free stalls were urinals, which he couldn't use. So he went to the woman's washroom to use a stall there, and got harassed by the police because...well, he was a man in the women's room. Except he wasn't. He was born a she, and in North Carolina, you USED to be demanded to go to the washroom of your birth gender, and they're trying to force that back in again, after it was partially repealed and allowed to expire back in 2020.
It's not about protecting women. If it was, they'd just enforce the laws on the books about harassment, sexual or otherwise, and be blind to the genders of the perpetrator and victim. But we can obviously see that this is about legally harassing transgender people, and it just uses women's rights as cover for the hatred. Your only answer as a transgender person to peeing is hold it...or pee yourself. Or move to a state, city, or country that doesn't treat you like shit because you would prefer to be the other gender...or not be restricted to the binary structure in general!
These are excellent points, thank you.
Your middle paragraph makes so much sense in today's world, it's not about what they say it's about, they just like to demonize people who aren't hurting anyone
idk if reading a billionaire author's own statement (managed by a billionaire's pr-team) on the billionaire's own site is "the most complete picture you can get".
I've read the text as well, and that isn't too crazy. But it's honestly just dog-whistling, as you can see from her going utterly BATSHIT crazy on social media.
Edit not to mention highly illogical. She literally wants a law saying this guy must use the women's bathroom:
And you don't think he will get harassed when he goes into the ladies' because he was born with a vagina?
Or that this person won't get harassed when they have to go the men's:
You can prolly see why TERF views aren't actually feminist at all
I tend to show pictures like that to people complaining about trans people (Not like OP. They seemed genuine.) And they ALWAYS shut down. Because their entire view is crafted by transphobic youtubers and twitter nazis that use ridiculous cartoon images of trans people.
And when they see that most of the time you can't see if a person is trans or not, their brain just has a seizure.
I totally get it, and I don't have xitter or anything like that so don't see the majority of the trash she's reported to say and do, I just wanted to see what her "official" position was as a starting point to compare to what she's actually doing and saying elsewhere.
I started looking further into this because a friend of mine, which is a total HP nerd, was trying to give me some context on where her anti-trans activism comes from.
You deliberately found someone with strong bias to get info from? Maybe you should think about that.
I also understand that sex and gender are separate, and Rowling seems to be on the train that conflates it, which might be the basis for her position.
I think you need to back up a little more on Rowling. If you start dissecting her works, you'll see she has born/birth/blood nature being a reoccurring theme. Hagrid is naturally angry. Voldemort is evil because he was a rape baby. House Elves are natural slavesservants. The Weasley family will always be poor(even when Harry should be paying rent or at least buying them a new car). Hell, the Irish character keeps blowing things up. Things are the way they are at birth and anyone who pushes against the natural order is wrong. Hermione Granger, the other outside to magical society took issue with the House Elves being treated as slaves and everyone, including the House Elves and Harry Potter, the first outsider and someone who should have no bias for slavery, treated her as being annoying and wrong for caring.(Also remember when JK implied that Hermione could be Black? Yeah, this isn't a good look.)
If you want a deep dive into Rowling's writings that isn't centered on the trans issue, check out Shaun's review of her total body of work at the time.
Excellent response, thank you.
Also to your first point, I needed to know what her current stance was and the rational being used to do what I could at comparing.
All the points about the series are interesting, and they all ring pretty true. As I recall Tolkien had similar racial vibes in his works. Nothing I realized until someone pointed them out.
TBH the whole house elves thing always made me uncomfortable.
People have decided she’s literally Hitler and so are you if you disagree with them. This isn’t a subject where discourse is allowed. The point is to make any dissent of any size unacceptable and to make sure no one is questioning anything, 100% unquestioning acceptance is the only option here, no questions allowed, accept it at face value. People can’t accept things they’re not allowed to think through and thinking issues around transness through means you’re a bigot, fully accept it or you’re a bigot… don’t bother talking to people about this here, there’s no point, shades of gray and nuisanced through is forbidden
You say this as if she doesn't have a long and exceedingly public history of racism and transphobia.
I don't think this is the right take.
I think perhaps people on the Internet get jaded towards questions and discourse because it's often disingenuous or just trolling. Do they jump to a conclusion? Perhaps, but it also feels like you may have here.
My comment above is currently (and I expect forever) sitting in the negative, I think this is probably for the reason you stated. I'm going to leave it as is because it's an honest starting point for me, and hopefully it'll also help someone else come in, see a resonance with how they think, and also learn something. One commenter already provided videos for me to study and learn from, which I will do as soon as I can.
I'm hoping overall people understand that I'm coming from a place of honest curiosity and openness. I see all the bigotry around and it disgusts me. I just want to make sure I understand this topic as much as I can as a cis-male.
bitch, sit down.
Family guy foreshadowed rowling in 2 cutscnes in the old seasons.
one of them was allegedly about peter, the sorting hat said" housing for registered sex offendors"
and the other 1 is peter saying: now its a problematic writing jk rowling, and then it goes to scene with the sorting hat saying to the girl, about how she is she is "trans" but the hat refutes that.
literally tho
Harry Potter defenders: “JK Rowling just said mean words online she hasn’t actually harmed trans people!”
What JK Rowling is doing with the money:
Someone dear to me is heartbroken and perennially conflicted because she absolutely loved Harry Potter growing up, and is also keenly aware of how shitty JK Rowling is. Now as an adult the Harry Potter franchise is one of the things that gives her joy in an otherwise very hard life she has had.
I'm not giving any more details about her. All I'm asking is, give these people a break, please. Not everyone is in a position in life to be an activist on everything, and while it might sound silly, things like HP are a big part of some people's childhoods and taking those away from them can be devastating.
Ok but harry potter "defenders" and jk Rowling defenders are not the same. You can appreciate the world of HP while not agreeing or supporting their shit creator.
Even the original cast don't support hp anymore because they aren't a bunch of assholes and don't have rocks for brains.
But by consuming Harry Potter IP, you're actively putting money in her pocket, which she uses for her anti trans cause. Unless you pirate the content
Honestly, having to listen to people babble about Harry Potter just feels like a slap in the face. Like, I know people who have the best intentions in regard to supporting trans people, but they'll still happily make endless references to this garbage in front of me as though it wouldn't immediately bring to mind someone who is actively engaged in trying to get others to agree that I shouldn't exist. Some of them also buy merch that I guarantee puts money directly in her pocket.
It bothers the shit out of me.
I disagree. Sometimes you can’t separate the art from the artist when they are actively using their wealth and influence to oppress an already marginalized group. Just take a look at what recently happened and is happening to Tesla.
yes you can but i will still judge you because it's a terribly written series
Piece of shit author continues being a piece of shit. More news at 11.
It's good to publicly remember every now and then. Plenty of people don't know that she's a raging transphobe, and if even one of them recently joined lemmy and sees this post and is convinced to no longer buy her work, then that makes this post worth it, imo.
Yeah, good point
So what is it that motivates her to spend her vast wealth persecuting trans people, instead of doing something useful?
I heard a YouTuber refer to her as Jeepers Kreepers Rowling recently, and it makes me giggle. What an awful woman.
I'm partial to Joule Kelvin Rowling, myself.
It’s always the people you most expect.
J K Rowling can go suck a fuck.
It would have been so easy for her to shut her mouth and keep supporting the feminist causes she did support, and instead she’s spent so much time and political capital attacking the ideas she doesn’t support.
It’s fucking asinine. Her mother clearly never taught her to shut the fuck up if she has nothing of value to say.
It's this actually new? Wasn't it already known that she did that?
I mean to be fair, if she's going to make hating LGBT people her whole personality, we might as well make sure to keep mentioning how ACTIVE she is in her hate.
It would be one thing if she had just said some nasty shit a decade ago, but this goofy lady wakes up and chooses violence every god damned day.
Her twitter is mostly about trans people instead of HP too. She could have just kept quiet and kept having her PR team sweep all the transphobic tweets she was liking under the rug like they did early on before she went full mask off. But no, she wants to get rid of all the queer people and is actively working to try to make that happen.
That's the thing. I basically already assumed she more or less financed multiple terf organizations all by herself
Rowling donated £70,000 (roughly $88,200) to the anti-trans group For Women Scotland in 2024 after it lost its challenge to a 2018 Scottish law that legally recognized trans women as women. The group appealed its case to the U.K. Supreme Court, which ruled last month that trans women aren’t considered women under the nation’s Equality Act.
Rowling responded to the decision by posting a picture of her having a drink and smoking a cigar, with the text “I love it when a plan comes together.”
Setting aside the question of the cause itself, I'm not sure that taunting people is a good way to effect social change.
kagis for image
JK Rowling smokes cigar as she celebrates court ruling on yacht in the Bahamas
Yeah, that seems likely to antagonize people.
I am glad she smokes
I was gonna say that some people who smoke cigars use them on a very occasional basis, but it sounds like she's had a very long-running nicotine habit:
https://blog.lucy.co/10-people-who-smoked/
- J. K. Rowling
Not only did J. K. Rowling create the Harry Potter universe, she did it while smoking so much that she experienced symptoms of nicotine overdose [1]. Rowling had been smoking since her teen years where she was frequently caught smoking at bus stops with boys in leather jackets [2]. But the author quit smoking in 2000 with a combination of nicotine gum and the popular game, Candy Crush, to keep her mind occupied when she'd otherwise be giving in to cigarette cravings [3].
I suppose she un-quit at some point.
EDIT:
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/0600-times-treneman.html
The only time I see her inhale is around a Marlboro Light. She claims this was to be a non-smoking day. I'm not sure how this squares with five cigarettes in two hours.
https://thefriendlyeditor.com/2015/06/16/rowling-writing-harry-potter/
Rowling has been open about her struggle to write book four, which nearly caused her to have “a nervous breakdown”:
That was the period where I was chewing Nicorette. And then I started smoking again, but I didn’t stop the Nicorette. And I swear on my children’s lives, I was going to bed at night and having palpitations and having to get up and drink some wine to put myself into a sufficient stupor.
2024:
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1797759158688854150?lang=en
I'll be a smoker til the day I die, even if I never have another cigarette. If I could choose one drug I could take forever without consequences as long as I gave up all others - caffeine, alcohol etc - it would be nicotine.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it becomes a three pack a day hobby for her and a number of higher ups who are currently screwing everything up. Menthols, too. Gotta speed run this shit.
With cigars, the risk is of tongue or mouth cancer. Absolutely horrible, disfiguring, hard to treat.
Honestly, that photo is what sets me over the edge. Don't get me wrong, I already hated the bitch and hoped she died horribly and soon, but that picture makes me want to take the timeline into my own hands. I'm not a violent person, but sometimes exceptions must be made.
Yeah, that's just dumb.
Roughly a similar move was made by the far right finance minister in Finland. When she was faced with the challenge of communicating the need for austerity, did she use empathy? No, she went for twitter posts where she laughed aloud with scissors in hand.
What an ugly human being
What a rotten bitch
Fucking god, she’s still doing this shit? She’s going to turn her franchise into another Tesla.
Ugh. What a despicable person. I was thinking about pirating her shitty TV show, but i don't think i will. They probably base popularity, among other things, on torrents. I don't want her to have any popularity. She's a really gross person :/
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Aside from hurting Trans people, these things hurt women both those afab or not, and given the numbers of each group they end up hurting way, way, way more cisgender women. So every opportunity, every interview with Rowling, every comment on a tweet to her should be "What happened that made you hate women this much?".
I mean it's sad that she can't love the trans, but if that was just a prrsonal dislike, ok everyone has barely rational likes and dislikes, can't be helped. But to make that public, and then to go to these lengths, to sacrifice the safety of all women on the altar of that hate and fear, that is truly sick and sickening.
So the question is "JO, WHY DO YOU HATE WOMEN???"
Because because of her hate mongering, women are getting in trouble and often beat up for going to the bathroom, get humiliated by having to "prove" they're "real" women to pushy agressive bigots. I fully expect one day to lose my job and end up in jail for beating up some such asshole who thinks they should humiliate my wife or daughters that way.
The greatest achievement of gender critical ideology is getting women to voluntarily give men jurisdiction to police their bodies and presentation. To the Rowlings and Parkers, any number of cisgender women hurt by their ideology is worth it in their quest of erasing trans people out of public life.
Harry Potter defined so much of my young life. I’m confused as to if Rowling has always been this way, or if something changed. I first found out about this kind of behavior around 10 years ago
My experience reading the Sinfest comic taught me that people start out as feminists (believe in the equality of the sexes) then turn to radical feminists (believe that women are superior to men), which causes them to see Trans women as men realizing the truth and trying to stay in the superior sex, and trans men as women being tricked by doctors (terfs).
This leads to both demonization of sex work (swerfs) and distrust in doctors in general (anti-vax), and finally leading to the distrust in all science and fact and full blown narcissim.
You have wildly misunderstood what TERFs are. They're buddies with anti-abortion activists. Politically they are aligned in interests with misogynists. They believe that gender is innate and unchangeable, which is the same thing that misogynists think. They believe that women are and will always be subjugated by men because men are biologically inclined towards rape and are categorically stronger than every single woman. They dont actually seek to change this in any material way. They just dont want to have to be around people they consider disgusting. They want to be upheld by white men the way they were in the 40s. There's a reason TERFs skew middle class and white.
Fun fact that during the build up to world war 2 a mass exodus of former suffragettes to the side of fascism took place in Britain. Even though fascists wanted to take their right to vote away again. The fascists upheld white British women as the pinnacle of femininity, and upheld them as an ideal in their state of subjugation. This presented a position of privilege over other women. It afforded them status and protection that being a political radical did not.
Not necessarily directly related to TERFs, just wanted to point out that if incentives exist to become a misogynist then some women will take the incentive.
I have to ask because someone posted actual comics below and the topic seems unrelated:
Is it a change in the comic author or the content of the comics that taught you this?
Sinfest
Setting aside the content, the art style on Sinfest changed so much. I read some of the early stuff, and every time I glance at it, it seems like the art style's significantly different. Not like, say, Peanuts or some other long-running comic strips.
Here's a Sinfest comic strip from 2000:
From 2005:
Here's from 2010:
From 2015:
From 2020:
From 2025:
People tend to get more conservative the wealthier they get.
So money happened to her.
She was already very conservative during her upbringing. Her 'feminism' amounted to performative success for affluent women under capitalism. She has never been a progressive. She retconned her characters to minorities while doing literally no work to write the characters as minorities with the experiences of minorities. Feminism to her is an aesthetic.
Yeah, I never understood that one. I am not obscenely wealthy, but I've gone the opposite direction. I make combined over 200k between myself and my wife, and im more left leaning than I think I've ever been at any point in my life.
No, people who were already selfish get more conservative the wealthier they get. When they have nothing, they want everyone to share and help each other. As they get more of their own wealth, their true beliefs come out and they expect everyone to get their own.
Real Notch hours too
"Harry Potter wealth". That is hilarious.
I saw this getting upvotes in a conservative comm. Makes me sick.
In this comm it feels like actual news, being notified of things that happen in the world. Upvoting it feels like a "more people should know that this is happening" kinda thing.
But in a comm dedicated to the GQP? There it feels like an upvote is a sign of approval or agreement.
I was one of those fanboys. Now I don't think im even gonna pirate the show. I don't want her to have THOSE numbers either. I also haven't bothered past the second fantastic beasts even to just see how bad it is. I just......don't fucking care after the second movie lol
Wouldn't it be a shame if the website got DDOS'd, the email account (JKRWF@turcanconnell.com) got spammed to shit and the morally bankrupt legal firm facilitating this also got something coming to their website (see email)
(in a hypothetical way) What if someone send to this JKR email a link to futa hentai with Harry Potter characters.
I don't know what happened to her, but all this bs began after she finished the books. For years she was desperate to not fade into obscurity and first tried to cater to the pc crowd and then it slowly turned to hate and harassment against people who weren't pc enough. Then the trans bs started and while I have not kept up with her since she called pewdiepie a fascist, I can tell that she's sticking to her MO of doubling down on something even when people try and tell her to let it go. I don't think she started out as a bad person, but I think all the wealth and attention kinda fucked her up. It's almost like witnessing an addict going from recreational usage of drugs, to becoming a meth addict on a street corner who is willing to do anything to remain relevant in any way.
But wtf do I know. All I can say is that it's kinda nice to finally be able to say that the writing in the Harry Potter books was mid af. Ten years ago ppl told me to kill myself, lol. I still think it's a fun world and the worldbuilding is great as long as you don't start asking questions, but the actual writing and storytelling? Pretty amateur in my humble opinion. I have felt this way since I lost interest in the series around 2006 and I still feel this way. Still haven't managed to finish the books because I hate the fifth one with a passion. The editor was on vacation when she wrote that drivel.
Reminds me of JD Vance.
Some people first glom onto left-leaning causes and opinions. They advocate for open-mindedness and human rights for all. They might even get really into the righteous purity of it all, where they get to criticize others for not being progressive enough.
But then maybe they don't get satisfaction out of that for long. Maybe they find that another leftist is criticizing them for their wrong-headed views. Maybe they aren't getting enough cookies for being a feminist.
So they switch over the right-leaning side of things. Maybe that allows them to be more openly hateful.
Or maybe they just changed their minds.
Honestly, I don't know much about Rowling's beliefs other than being a TERF. Maybe she supports all other "feminist" and anti-racist and left-leaning progressive causes. Perhaps she didn't go all-in on the likes of Trump, the way Vance did.
But you'd never know, since all she talks about is being anti-trans.
Oh, Vance was like that? Haha explains a lot, lol. How sad for him. That man was never on my radar until he start insulting my country and passing on Zelenskyj on international TV. The vibe I got from him is that he's the type of guy who will suck up to everyone and stab everyone in the back the minute he sees the benefit to himself. Makes sense if he used to be super liberal.
As for Rowling, I honestly think most of her strange behavior has less to do about personal beliefs and more to do with wanting admiration and being incapable of admitting fault. I wrote a longer comment to someone else about how I see Rowling and while it's all speculation, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be how she functions.
With people who behave like that, it is rarely about the cause itself and more about something deeper. I believe Rowling is addicted to attention and is terrified of being wrong. Those two are a very bad combo. Especially when you have spent 20 years being praised as the queen of children's literature and has been beloved and idolized like a god where people take everything you say and turn them into inspirational quotes on their social medias and tell you how you ARE their childhoods etc. Suddenly being confronted with pushback when you have been riding a high for years must be kind of startling. Especially when all you have in your tool box is doubling down and making strong statements on social issues, lol.
If I had infinite time, I would genuinely love to dissect what the hell her psychology is, why she is the way that she is and how we got here because I only have the cliffnotes version and my vantage point and I just see a pattern of behavior that goes way, way deeper than political issues and activism.
i recently read that the upcoming HBO series is gonna be developed over the next 10 years. ugh! adding her name to the filter list now. fuck all of that shit.
but we are still not ok with bashing the fans/consumer that gave her the money despite the stories being flatter than brothers grim wiping their ass? i really think harry potter fans are the problem.
J.K. Rowling is using her wealth attained from the Harry Potter series to create an organization dedicated to removing transgender people's rights "in the workplace, in public life, and in protected female spaces.”
I need some help with this topic.
I never got into Harry Potter; I watched some of the older films, but I've never read the books. I was born in '83, so it never hit me like the folks in my younger brother's and little cousins' generation. I only knew of Rowling's statements about trans people over the years tangentially and largely dismissed it as background noise. I assumed that she considers herself a TERF (trans-exclusionary radical feminist), as opposed to a TIRF (trans-inclusive radical feminist).
On the assumption that I'm correct about her position, what is the true essence of the disagreement between TERFs and TIRFs?
Is it that the presence of the Y chromosome in male-to-female trans people inherently adds a fundamental "maleness" that "true feminists" must inherently oppose due to the overt and implied threats to women that "maleness" represents?
Is it simply a feminist version of a "No True Scotsman" fallacy or an "Appeal to Nature" fallacy?
Maybe both?
her books do allude thier her transphobia, and a little anti-semitism quite a bit, its low key.
TIRFs are not opposed to maleness. TERFism is a conservative psy-op that started when Mary Daly (who wrote magical divine goddess mother bullshit) and Janice Raymond (who accidentally kicked off trans studies by outing and harassing a trans woman named Sandy Stone - The Transexual Empire leading to Stone’s The Empire Strikes Back)
TIRFism recognizes that there is an axis of oppression that lies at the roots of imposed sex roles. The vast majority of women over history have been unarguably subject to men. Many women live in systems which are focused on controlling their sexuality, and are often barred and restricted from certain activities - due to both explicit and encultured messages.
The ideal TIRF society eliminates gender as a restriction. If anyone had actually read Andrea Dworkin, instead of taking Rush Limbaugh’s pastiche of her work at face value, they would find the TIRF society is one where gender is essentially just self expression. If we got rid of “man” or “woman” - maybe girls in Afghanistan would be able to go to school, or maybe sex wouldn’t be understood as a defilement of women (which I think is deeply connected to the problem of rape - rape is less an act of sexual desire and more a desire for subjugation that is tied to sexual power through this messaging that we desire to eliminate.)
The project of the TIRF is ultimately that the only way to truly end sexism would be to understand all humans as fundamentally ambiguous, to not hold anyone to any kind of sex role.
This is the fundamental irony behind the TERF movement. Rather than reject the gender and sex binary, they reify and enforce it. Daly was a wacky Catholic theologian who turned God into a mom, and decided that women were just special magical spiritual beings. This devotion to some kind of divine womanhood is common among the lesbian separatist types (it’s really disturbing seeing that space have the same deranged arguments of the 70’s…)
The problem is that TERFs are just not feminists. If Rowling cared about women, she wouldn’t be finding these women who realize that they can get their 15 minutes by intentionally throwing a boxing or fencing match. TERFs gleefully team up with the same groups that attack women’s reproductive health care - which I view as the most critical feminist issue at the moment (along the world wide surges in fascistic ideologies - which do tend to be expressions of a threatened male gender role, attempting to reassert those boundaries. The goddamn President is a serial rapist.)
That’s probably confusing and elaborate, there’s a lot of theory behind what I’m saying. I’m happy to answer or clarify, I think a critical part of countering this shit is to stop letting Rowling and the alt right redefine the term feminist.
I have to admit, I had to re-read your response several times to comprehend your points properly.
No slight intended to you; this subject has always been difficult for me to parse correctly and, in turn, respond with any thoughtful or logical relevance. My expression of thought tends to be more clumsy than I would like to admit.
After some consideration of your reply, I think the answer to my question is that TERF position suffers from both of the fallacies I listed in my original supposition, and probably many more that I'm not recalling or aware of.
Considering your two following statements:
TIRFs are not opposed to maleness.
and...
Daly was a wacky Catholic theologian who turned God into a mom, and decided that women were just special magical spiritual beings. This devotion to some kind of divine womanhood is common among the lesbian separatist types
...would it be safe to conclude that TERFs do (in a way) oppose the "maleness" of the Y chromosome as an affront to the purity of their "feminity"? I know I'm repeating my question, but their ethos reminded me of the "single-drop-of blood" policies on ethnic identity from the segregationists of the American South.
It's certainly an absurdity, and many times a dark one at that, observing upon what proverbial hills people choose to die on publicly these days.
I wonder: does she admit to identifying with or publicly support the Tories, Nigel Farage and/or other "Brexiteers", or other conservative personalities and politicians within the UK? Generally speaking, I refuse to use the "Alt-Right" label, as contend that there's nothing "alternative" to naked authoritarian conservatism about it.
I suppose I should just look it up, but I thought I'd ask.
The opposite of a TERF is a Non Exclusive Radical Feminist, because it's NERF or nothing
TERFs can also be called Feminism-Appropriating Radical Transphobes, or FART
terfs also love to collab with nazis too.
Soon as people get rich and can avoid the consequences of being an asshole, the filter comes off and they become assholes.
I’m glad I never have her a cent. Pirated the moves the only time I’ve watched them. Pirated the books too, but only got through one.
Avada kedavra!
Oh well, it was worth a try...
Someone needs to
Crucio!
Time to use the new magic “begoneith cunty cunt!”
Again??
I know that this is of only tangential relevance to the OP but I think that it could be safely said that "transgenderism" is boring and irrelevant to everybody except for a tiny sliver of the population : Those who love it and those who hate it. And these people seem to talk a lot.
So many people are unique in different ways. Some people eat meat, some don't, some can't. Some people are tall, some short, some average. Some people are the life of the party, and some are quiet. Some people feel comfortable in their bodies, and some don't.... And sometimes they want the be different. I don't fault people for wanting to be comfortable with who they are. They should be comfortable in their own bodies, and if that means changing it, then that should be okay too. Sometimes, there are people that pick on other people for not liking the same things they do, or for not looking the way they do, and this can hurt the people that they are picking on. You may think it's okay for you to ignore it because it doesn't affect you, but that's selfish. What if people decided to pick on you for something that you couldn't control? Would you want other people to ignore it and turn a blind eye? No, right? You wouldn't think that that is okay. Sometimes you need to stand up to help people and support them, especially when someone else is being mean to them....because you never know when those mean people might to start picking on you. And if no one helps each other, then the mean people feel like they can get away with it...like they have power over everyone else. But when we speak up, when we say 'that's not okay,' we take that power away. We show them that being cruel isn’t something we accept or ignore.
Standing up for others isn’t just about helping someone else, it’s about creating a world that’s kinder and safer for everyone, including yourself. When we support each other, we build trust, respect, and strength in our communities. We show each other that we matter, just as we are.
So when you see someone being treated unfairly, remember: your voice matters. Even one person standing up can make a huge difference. Be that person."
Just had this conversation with my young daughter about bullies, I adapted it a bit, but I thought maybe you could use it too.
Beautifully put, thank you!
An accusation of selfishness wrapped in a very large bun. Lol.
Having a few people born biological males in your change room or gym class isnt going to ruin your life, theres nothing they can see there that they cant see on the internet.
I mean unless a woman has posted her naked body publicly online then this isn’t really a true point. You actually cannot see anything of mine online and no women aren’t all the same person where if you know/see one you live known/seen them all… saying “you can see boobs online” doesn’t mean what you think it does because no, you cannot see mine online
Well, let's just be happy that Rowling is jy low pretty old and that we'll all likely outlive her.