Engineering decisions

This taught me absolutely nothing about B2B sales!

Why is no one asking about the bus with no wheels?!
- Ha I had to double take but it looks like they're just recessed in the wheel well
  
  And blurred out with whatever is in the bottom left of the picture. Could also be a composite.

If I had that kind of money, I'd buy ruined, exploited land just to restore it; regrow a clearcut forest for instance. Then just give it back to the native tribe who lived there centuries ago. I have always wished I could do that.
- Nice, this is exactly why a forest has no car seats. Go achieve your life goals
  
  Wait, does that mean his actions will make him zero friends? Not even the tribe!? That kinda sucks.
- You could always donate money to organisations that do these things. Or use alternative search engines that use profit to support nature. I use Ecosia that plant trees and do other things to have a positive climate impact.
  But being able to be Bruce Wayne and save a village in South America would also be a sweet deal.
  
  Or I could do the work myself. Donating to charity is just throwing money at the rich.
- Cool idea, this car can be leased for a couple gs a month, what you’re proposing would take a lot of money. This car is for crypto bros who share a condo in Miami.
  
  It's cheaper if I do the work myself, which is the only kind of work worthy of respect.
- Where I live there are initiatives that preserve forests by allowing people to buy square meters. It's only a few hundred euros.

Notice the implied and unquestioned assumption that “life goals” means accumulating resources and not building relationships or contributing to society. In fact, it’s expected that personal relationships and societal responsibilities shall be neglected in the quest for resources.
- Your life can be so much better if you get over the notion of having to own things. Almost every luxury out there can be enjoyed without having to own it, as long as you're able to discard the consumerist propaganda that you've not enjoyed it properly unless you can take it home.
  
  Aka take joyrides in other people's Lambos, then ditch the car, but NOT AT YOUR HOME.
  
  Yeah, and I think that is tied to a subconscious need for good things to be permanent.
  I think that truly internalizing the temporary nature of literally everything is an important part of getting to the mindset you’re talking about.
- If this wasn't 2025 I would have thought this image was satire it's so overtly toxic and stupid.
  Yet here we are.
- You won't be accumulating anything without building vital relationships.
  
  For sure, but there is a vast spectrum of what can constitute a “relationship.” There are many transactional relationships that are absolutely vital to accumulating resources, even for ordinary working people. But being necessary for survival doesn’t mean they are what will bring you fulfillment in life.
- And if you do have friends, they can laugh at you when you struggle to get out of the car
  
  So sexy! 🥵

A lot of people I've seen in Lamborghini cars aren't serious about their lives. They're spoiled idiots who lucked out and got a ton of money handed to them and are driving it around to show off how much money they have as if they deserved it.
- I have a buddy who wanted a Ferrari and a Lambo since they were a kid. They finally got to the point where they bought the Ferrari only to realize he has a wife and kid. The kid can’t safely ride in the Ferrari for 12+ years and he can’t fit 3 people in the car so he sold it. These aren’t cars for people with normal lives.
  
  I'm an enthusiast with no kids (and a vasectomy to make sure it stays that way) and I've driven both around a track. Glad to have done it once, but I'm not in any hurry to do it again. Wouldn't buy either one over my Miata.
  Supercars are vastly overrated.
  
  If he didn't realize these things before making the purchase, it would seem like he falls qualifies for the idiot side with a sprinkle of luck.
  By chance was he able to afford it because of inheritance? Only a fool takes that kind of money to splurge on a vehicle and he would then fit exactly into the sot op laid out.
  
  "Wife and a kid" = normal life.
  hmmmm.

I'd have so many friends if I had a Lamborghini bus 🤔

You will lose my friendship when you waste a bunch of money on a lambo.
- Get a Toyota and use the savings to take all your friends on vacation
  
  Or, like take your family on vacation or anything else more useful than a fancy car. Build memories rather than flaunting wealth.
- No one needs the friendship of a petty person.
  
  Right, that's why you ditch the kind of shallow loser that would buy a Lambo, we just went over this.
  
  Are you saying you need a friend?

It's also a weight decision. If you bring five American friends along, you just doubled the weight of the car.

I dunno, the bus I drive costs more than double what that car costs.
- Did you pay for it?
  
  I mean, I'm a taxpayer so kind of lol

People who are serious about life value long term benefit over short term material goods. Public transportation is a public good for all and in the long term will save you a ton of money.
- But how else can you show off how much money you have and how insecure you are?
  
  I saw a guy in a Lamborghini just yesterday at the gas station, I remember how it made me feel like less of a man suddenly, and an overwhelming urge to admire and listen to the man driving and respect his opinions.
  Oh wait, no I thought "ugly color" and forgot entirely about it a moment later until this post. I always mix those up.
  
  Buy a massive long gun to compensate

I listened to a really interesting podcast the other day about how the current online alpha male culture, the kind we see propagated by Andrew Tate and co, actually emphasizes an incredibly lonely existence. It’s almost hermitical. Whereas masculinity in the 80’s up through the 2000’s or so was about getting rich, partying in incredibly conspicuous ways, and getting laid all the time.
This lambo meme (first part) falls right in line with the Tate mentality for sure. There are people who read that and go “yes, that sounds great.”
- I think the current online alpha male culture is a marketing tool meant to validate the antisocial beliefs of potential customers in order to convert them into paying customers.
  
  Oh definitely. At its heart is the grift
- It’s very likely that it’s all about justification of where someone is more than it is about getting to where someone truly wants to be. Making a lot of positive changes is hard but claiming that you actually really wanted whatever shitty outcome is “easier”.
  In the ‘80s it was about claiming you definitely weren’t buying your friends and, if you were, that was some kind of cool power thing and not horrifically depressing for all parties involved. These days most of the world hates these losers, and for good reason, so they shift the blame away from themselves in a desperate attempt to pretend that they aren’t at fault.
  We’re social animals and we want genuine connection. The alpha males are deeply lonely and angry about it all the time but try soooo hard to pretend they aren’t which only makes them sadder and madder.

man, those guilt coping posts. maybe just do the right thing, so you don't need to make up bullshit to feel good
- You mean just take the bus?
  
  Yeah just take the bus

If you need a meme to feel good about your decisions, then maybe make better decisions.

I fucking hate people that act like they escaped the matrix because they drive a personally owned vehicle.
Like wow you're really showing us public transit welfare queens what true independence looks like, gripping a steering wheel in a vehicle they can only legally operate with a government-issued license, on a road built and maintained by the government, cleared of snow by government workers driving government-owned trucks, fueled by government-subsidized oil, and parked in government-funded lots. Let’s not forget they had to go to a government building, talk to a government employee, and pay a government fee just for the privilege of registering their car — which they’re also legally required by the government to insure. And after all that bureaucratic red tape and recurring fees, they have the audacity to act like they're the icons of self-sufficiency. The cherry on top? If their precious symbol of ‘independence’ breaks down, the government isn’t going to help — they get to shoulder the repair costs entirely on their own.
Meanwhile, I swipe a card once a month and get access to a system that moves people efficiently, doesn’t ask for my blood type, and doesn’t require me to pour thousands into maintenance and paperwork — and I’m the one supposedly suckling at the teat of Big Government?
Ok.
- As someone who owns a vehicle, I feel more like I've escaped the matrix when on public transportation than when I'm driving. I still have to have a car to get places public transit won't go, but I always look forward to the completion of each new station, one more area I don't have to drive to.
  
  I rarely go farther from my home than I can go in a few minutes in my bycicle, so I never felt the need for a car. But once every few months I would need to go somewhere that is two hours away by bus, often with inconvenient bus timings (like either 6am or noon) - so I sometimes take an Uber instead.
  When people her about me taking an Uber for such a "long" trip they call me insane, say that I'm wasting money and I should just get a car and those trips would be much cheaper. They never consider all the other costs involved in owning a car.
  But then after a while people in my town started giving up on Uber and it became hard to find a driver whenever I might need one, so I finally got a driving license and bought myself a bike. People now were like "you'll see how it changes you, you'll use it for everything, you'll go out a lot more often and to everywhere with it". By the time I had a trip to make it was no longer turning on due to being stuck in a garage for so long. The counter showed less than 20 kilometers when I sold it.

I wonder which one is more expensive, a new Lamborghini or a new bus.
- Depends on the size of the bus - anywhere from high 90s to half a million for a school bus.
- The bus
- A 28 seater bus is, unless a very high end model which the example isn't, will be cheaper than that particular Lambo was new.
- Overall or per capita?
  
  Overall. I wonder, if somebody gives me a Lambo, can I sell it, buy a bus, and drive friends in it?

It's a great meme, but I do cringe a little bit at the idea of engineers designing the car while already having built most of it.
- That's agile for you.
- Those engineers just got serious about their lifes. You can crank out way more products if you skip designing them, it is the engineer hustle 🔧😎
  And if they didn't decide yet, they could always just bolt more seats to the roof.
- Engineers don’t design cars. They enable the cars designed by designers who are employed by marketers.
  
  That's a good semantic but in the hypothetical crafted above your response is a duo who are implementing designs they create as they construct the full size operational model, therefor they are more engineers than they are designers.
  Also, any car body which considers aerodynamics, and runs simulations, is designed by engineers by definition if not by certification (some nations regulate the title, and the simulation softwares are very accessible).

TIL: The people on the bus are my friends! Yay!
- Commute friends are great. You've got a pleasant conversation for the ride, and another source of information when your ride is canceled.
- Depending on the route, I'd argue that you should be careful what you wish for. Having said that, I found your response extremely wholesome to a Kenneth Parcell level.
  "Oh, hi, new friend! Is that a test tube in your mouth? You must be a scientist!"
  "Golly, that sure is a big knife! Thanks for defending all of us bus friends!"
  
  "Golly, that sure is a big knife! Thanks for defending all of us bus friends!"
  Interestingly, I've had a variant of this conversation, on the bus. Lots of people aren't very aware of how they make the people around them feel, but most people aren't really trying to bother anyone most of the time.
- The bus on the bus go bus bus bus!

I'm pretty sure nobody driving that midlife crisis on wheels has ever gotten "serious" about their lifes

If you're choosing life-goals that shut out your friends, those are the wrong life-goals.
- Bold of you to assume people like this have had friends.

Engineering decisions: how can make something that pollutes to the legal max both in particles, noise, and, come to think of it, any aspect possible? Oh, I know, a car!

If I had that kind of money I would just get myself a few gokarts and a track. If I wasn't quite that rich and just normal sports car money l would get a field or some woodland and some quadbikes and dirt bikes.

But the car on the second panel is a Ginetta G58 (with a Chevy engine) for LMP3, not road legal ... witch ... ok, it does have two seats, so it checks out, carry on.
The seats:
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- Nice catch.
  That's a straight up racecar, though. Like it's built exclusively for entertainment and fun, not epeen.
  I'd respect someone driving a Ginetta G58 around (or, more practically, an Ariel Atom, a homogilation special or something) way more than a chonky, overpriced lambo. That screams "I don't care what you think, I like to drive" instead of "hey everyone, look how rich I am!"
  Like this people driving around these monsters. That's beyond flaunting wealth, that's someone's neurotic hobby, and most bystanders aren't going to realize how special they are compared to the Porsche trailing them:
  
  is that a Cossie back there?
  big want
  
  Love those bbs rims on the Peugeot.

My life goal is to not work...which is why I'm not spending my money on a status symbol.

Commas, man. They're important to not abuse. You made my brain hiccup
- To split infinitives or to not split infinitives, that is the question.
  
  This shit ain't Latin. English splits infinitives.
- What's Your, Problem?
  edit - "You're"
  
  Commas, man.

The car they're working on only has one(functional) seat.....

Replace second speech box with “two, because people who buy our cars are losers”

Always making friends on the bus..

The F1 with a single seat.
When you reach the epitome, with noone to accompany you.
- I bet there are a lot of remote drone racing competitions ...
  
  I can see who's winning
- This breaks down thousands of hours before an F1 car starts because it takes thousands of people to design them
  
  I'm pretty sure the Lamborghini car also took quite a bit of people-interaction. Road compliance and all, you know?

Oh look it's the wankermobile out for an afternoon drive.
- Where’s the line drawn here?
  Like I never like to label all X as Y for a start, but if you own a Porsche are you a wanker? I own a Mercedes ~~I am~~ am I a wanker?
  Is it sports car with little utility? I have many things that make me happy with little utility.
  Edit: Removed the Freudian slip 😦
  
  Generally speaking, buying any car that is the median price of a house makes you a wanker driving a wankermobile.
  
  Yes.
  
  If the first thing you say about it to everyone is how much it cost, you are a wanker.

Expensive Rear engine Yellow
- This made me giggle. You could really rile up this type of person with that logic.
  "Yeah, it's all the same, man. $600k, rear engine, yellow, 600hp. I guess one of them doesn't include a professional driver, but we can't always have everything."
  "This is a Lamborghini! It's a big deal!"
  "Oh, sorry bro, I didn't mean that as like a dig at you. You'll get there. Just stay on your grind."
  
  Ha, I love that the bus is the one with a professional driver.

Yeah, you lose the friends because you have shitty life goals.

A smart car has two seats, a bus has 50