Tankies take a moment to engage in some North Korea propaganda. 'North Korea is a democracy'

Man, there is so much missing from this.

Any country that says that they don't have any "homeless or beggars" is either lying, or killing people on the street.
- Or living in a labour camp.
  
  The part they don't like talking about is the police approach homeless people in China and give them the option to either do whatever job tbey are given or go to prison and dissapear.

When they refer to South Korea as Occupied Korea, I almost can’t breathe from laughing.

Hey, that's me!
- Sorry you had to go through so much hate.
  
  It does feel bad, but I keep thinking about the people who don't know any better falling into that way of thinking. If there is at least one person in there questioning their circle jerk. I feel like it can save people a lot of trouble.
  Thanks for creating this post! I think it also helps.

Yeah sure, NK is a total utopia. Especially like the part where it says "Workers are the owner of the means of production" as if they didn't have one dictator that was in charge without anyone really having a choice.
- yeah Kim owns the means of production but he also works real hard /s

This I think is the indictment of the U.S.'s public education.
- Are you implying that homelessness equates to education?
  
  No, he's saying that americans are dumb enough to believe such garbage
  It's universal though. USA at a higher percentage of people.

Maximal working hour: 8 per day.
And how many days per week?
- 10 for good citizens
  20 in forced labor camps
  
  It's not forced labor, comrade, you're free to exchange your work hours for torture sessions and reduced food rations!
- I work 12hr shifts and I prefer it anyway.
  
  what genre of work?

You can criticize the US without making other authoritarian states look good. Both can be bad
- Reality is a team sport, to some people. They have no objective means of evaluating claims. In their worldview, that is not what claims are for.
  
  reality is a team sport for some people
  god i really hate tankies let's forcibly send them to china
- Tankies can't.
  
  Their bodies have adapted so well to boot licking, they can actually get sick and die from shoe polish withdrawal. That's the only rational explanation I can come up with.
- Absolutely!

If the "D"RPK is so great, why can't people leave?
- You know your country is a grade A shit hole where leaving brands you a traitor. Assuming you're successful that is, and don't get killed for trying.
- If it's so great, why won't they move there?
  
  If YoU donT loVe AmEricA juSt LeaVe
  Funny how you guys always end up sounding like right wingers
- "They just don't to leave!"
  /s, but also that's actually their argument.
  
  Its also a stupid argument, I love the country I'm in, but I'm still going to leave to go on holiday or something.

I'm surprised nobody ITT saw the Facebook page “The Soviet Reporter” owns. Despots gonna despot.
I also love the 여자 in the poster: She's not allowed to shave her hair, she's not allowed to wear street punk clothing, she's not allow to show nipple, etc. etc.. 신 I love DPKR propaganda /s

I want every ml in the world to move to north korea or china or any country they stan so much and live there for the rest of their life so that they will feel how "great" and "democratic" these "utopias" are.
- They absolutely can move to their favourite places. Iran, China, Russia -- But they never do. They're very lazy. Or perhaps deep down they know that their entire being is a trend that they latched onto to look better.
  
  If YoU donT loVe AmEricA juSt LeaVe
  Funny how you guys always end up sounding like right wingers
  
  If you ever bring it up they’ll say something along the lines of “well why don’t you pay for my move then”.
- They are probably from there
  
  Most tankies are fat American basement dwellers fantasising about power.
  
  Yes, the rich happy north corean worker and his internet.

Nah, I've just been there and talked to everyone. They say it's all good

also look at these weird ass rules. This is for the "korea" community
Insecure much?
- I like how this ignores that not only did the DPRK start the war, but the vast majority of the UN lined up behind South Korea, after the USSR stormed out of the security council meeting - they still had quorum, but the Soviets apparently assumed they didn’t, or would adjourn, or something. They didn’t. As a direct result, United Nations Command was established to specifically support South Korea in 1950.
- And then people ask why the lemmy devs receive so little funding. I want to support lemmy but I just can't morally support people pushing this agenda.
- I love how this kinds of communities describe themselfes as welcome to discussion and the write all the "facts" as a rule and everybody who says anything els gets banned.
  
  Yeah, I don't really understand why tankies pretend to be liberals so much. So many of their communities are all like 'discussion welcome!'
  But of course it isn't actually welcome. I've noticed that it's special to tankies, and that other extremists openly embrace their ignorance.
  
  I, for one, am sick of the media I listen to constantly telling me it would be fine to completely destroy North Korea in an invasion.
  I am seriously very curious about who these people are that are posting and participating in this place. Is it North Korean trolls? Normal trolls who are taking the piss? Western communists who know it's bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? Western communists who really believe it? Russians who just want to talk up their friends and poop on the US and don't really care if anyone believes it or not? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Is it just the lemmygrad admins just making on-brand activity on their server? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?
  Also, I took a look. Their video of people "enjoying" is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.

Women and Men receive the same payment for the same work
That payment? $24 per year.
That's not a joke. That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.
- That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.
  Which is the ONLY exchange rate, because North Korea.

99,9% Alphabetization
list not in alphabetical order, straight to a ~~work camp~~ state funded retreat
- Teaching everybody to read isn't that hard.
  It's called schools
- For anyone who like me was just confused and ignored it: They meant "literacy" but translated it badly.
  
  Must have been the .1
  
  Well rule number 3 on the sidebar says be skeptical of your sources, so I'm quite sure that this checks notes Facebook meme is correct in saying alphabetization.
  
  Lol, the irony
- D good start P alright jumped a lot not a lot of room left K ..... Well now it's not.
  How can they claim even over 75 percent alphabetization? Are we to deny reality?

That was one of the wildest comment chains I have read. If anybody is interested: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7781901
The only sane person I found in this post is @ITguru@feddit.nl lmao
- It's a pretty common thread for tankies. Comes up probably once a week.
- And they're Gebannt...

99.9% alphabetization? This is what the USA has been missing. The founding fathers failed us.
- In a 99.9% alphabetized America, "USA" becomes "ASU". This one simple trick turns bourgeois imperialist hegemon into a party school!!!
- Yes, everyone lives alphabetized. Bob had better live to the either below, or to the left of Andy, OR ELSE!
  
  most creative black mirror episode

99.9% alphabetization
Why do tankies like to post poorly translated propaganda? Like at least take the time to localize that shit bruh wtf.
- Just more casual racism.
  Guess what idiot not everybody have english as mother tongue
  Beside usage absolutely accepts the word alphabetization as in "teaching the alphabet".
  The rise of the printing press in the mid-15th century furthered the cause of alphabetization by sparking an unprecedented explosion in the dissemination of information. — Meilan Solly, Smithsonian Magazine, 9 Oct. 2020
- Because they are poorly localized.
  They are not who they say they are, full stop.

Look, I'm not some north Korea enthusiast. But i do think it's alarming that America killed 25% of the north Korean population and then as a "thank you" split the country in two and hit the north with incredible strict economic sanctions. And then we've spent 70 years getting 3rd hand knowledge of the country through propaganda.
Do i think north Korea is some socialist paradise? Absolutely not. Do i think it's fairly portrayed in English language news and social media?
Absolutely not
- America and the USSR agreed to partition Korea along the 38th parallel after liberating it from imperial Japanese rule.
  Subsequent to that the Chinese communists agreed to arm and back north Korea in return for Korean support during China's civil war.
  Later on North Korea launched an invasion of South Korea I feel like this is a very important point you somehow completely failed to mention. They then captured most of the Korean peninsula down to Busan.
  At this point the US (technically the UN but most forces were US) reinforced the ROK troops reclaimed the lost territory and invaded the north capturing Pyongyang.
  At this point China reinforced the north Koreans and recaptured Pyongyang the fighting then stalemated around the 38th parallel after years of fighting an armistice was agreed and the current borders were agreed.
  Your protratal of the US deciding on a whim to butcher the poor north Koreans then impose a separation on them would be laughable in how poorly it conveys events if you weren't seeking to mis-atribute the cause of a war that killed 3 million people
  
  America and the USSR agreed to partition Korea along the 38th parallel after liberating it from imperial Japanese rule.
  Your protratal of the US deciding on a whim to butcher the poor north Koreans then impose a separation on them...
  Not afraid of straight up contradictions are you. Did the US impose separation or not? Koreans never agreed to that
- I imagine China forcing Koreans to rush armed and dug in American positions unarmed and en masse probably had more to do with that 25% dying than anything.
  Although the meat grinder tactic China and Russia are so fond of is pretty effective, as the Battle of Chosin remains to this day the worst defeat the US Marines have ever suffered.
  Anyway, you’re seriously misconstruing historical events.

I can't believe they choose North Korea out of all places
- They love authoritarianism, they're bootlickers, so they latch onto Russia, China and North Korea. They completely ignore real communist countries like Cuba or Vietnam.
  
  Cuba and Vietnam aren't exactly shining beacons of democracy
  
  Cuba is also quite authoritarian afaik. Just not the warmongering kind.
- If they can fool someone thinking NK is good, they can scam them easily.