Things that don’t get as much hate as they deserve

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oh boy another struggle session
Everyone is being nice

Paul Volcker. When it comes to the architects of the neoliberal era, everyone talks about Hayek and Greenspan and Thatcher and Reagan. But no one mentions Volcker despite the man literally having the weaponizing of interest rates to break unions and the spending power of the working class named after him, the eponymous Volcker Shock.

if we’re gonna do generational warfare
what if we don't
- People are very intent on it
  
  Just do what I do and point out that generationalism is almost entirely made the fuck up and almost entirely serves to pit the working class against itself

The whole culinary fancy pantsy trend really drives me up the wall

Ads. They're everywhere and they're all awful. Google deserves even more hate for doing that spat last year to try and prevent ad blockers. Don't invest 500 billion into streaming video over the internet if you don't want people to block your shit ass ads for Alex Jones pills and quacky pseudoscience, idiots.
- I seriously a culture of ad destruction should be created.
  There are millions of people with anticapitalist leanings now. Yeah they might not be full blown communists but they're against this shit enough to take small actions they know they won't be caught for. Get millions of people actively destroying ads whenever they have the opportunity to and it'll form a small stepping stone to doing more radical things.
  
  It's so unbelievably egregious. I remember hanging out at my dad's and he was watchin' some football game, and I was aghast at how much time was taken up by ads. I remember asking him "How do people stand having so much of what they're trying to watch pushed aside for ads?" Not to mention how many ads there are on the screen all over the stadium, the graphics, the announcers' scripts, etc.
  
  FUCK ADS ALL MY HOMIES HATE ADS
- the sheer number of people I know that still use chrome despite me telling them that chrome is the reason their adblocker doesn't work as well and doesn't work at all on youtube blows my mind. They care enough to use an adblocker but then the most intrusive ads (long video ads, midrolls, etc.) they just shrug.
  And thats not to mention the huge number of people that just don't block any ads. Ads are literally spyware in addition to being annoying, but apparently that's fine
  
  My version of ublocker still works on my Chromebook so I fly with it.
- Any entertainment I watch online with ad-blockers, so whenever I visit my family and they have the TV on I'm blown away by how constant the ads have gotten, like how short the segments of the actual shows are relative to the frequency and length of the ad-breaks between them. I don't know how they put up with it in general.
  If I could even be bothered to remember what was advertised I would go out of my way not to buy it.
  
  Ads aren't there to convince you to buy something. Ads are meant to place subconscious familiarity with a brand so the next time you're shopping for a product you haven't bought before, you're subconsciously biased towards the brand that wormed into your brain through ads.
- Creating an advertisement aimed at children should be punishable by death and I'm not joking
- Especially on phones. On desktop with large monitor and adblock i barely register them if i see them at all, but when i try to tap anything internety on my phone every fucking sentence or picture of content is gated behind at least one swipe of ads. Like how do people even tolerate that shit.

Someone mentioned Belgium earlier in this thread, so I'm going to go a step farther and say the Netherlands. Yes, the cycling infrastructure is the best in the world and a decade ahead of every other country. Yes, the train system is pretty damn great with most lines getting at least 2 trains an hour. However, the Dutch seem to be remarkably proud of their colonial history, almost as much as the Brits according to this article. It's still a neoliberal country and is the home of Shell Oil. The country also has a sprawl problem-I would call it bike sprawl-where much of the country is rowhouses and the transport seems designed around bikes and cars. This is still steps ahead of most other countries but the Dutch seem to be somewhat allergic to building more dense neighborhoods. The local bus service is also somewhat lacking, with less frequent service than in comparable countries depending on where you are. Oh also the dutch "language" is a joke.
- The only reason why the Dutch like bikes is because it allows them to be rude with less separation between them and their target.
- The Dutch character is a horrible combination of arrogance and smol bean syndrome.
  
  smol bean? Not really. More like thinking they reason incarnate and would force their own 12 year old to pay for the meal they ate during a family gathering in a restaurant.
- Seconding this as a Dutch person, especially on the "allergic to dense development" part
  
  If America is a country built for cars at the expense of all else, the Netherlands is the same but built at bike scale. Like these are just suburbs dawg, yeah the bikes are great and wayyy ahead of the rest of the world, but many other countries just build more dense so you can just walk everywhere and take the train rather than have massive bike parking lots at every station. Again, the biking and trains are great but it's just a different kind of suburb. I think the Dutch refuse to build taller because they would rather make another polder instead.

We’ve all noticed the r-word making a comeback but even terms like “lame,” "dumb," and "stupid" are ableist and should not be used. Colonial terms like “looting” and “thugs” and “savage” always piss me off. Using the word "dark" to refer to anything negative is obviously not okay.
I can’t stand when people use “child” or “childish” as an insult. No one is easier to radicalize than kids. And it’s not because they’re ignorant or underdeveloped, it’s because they haven’t been propagandized into loving capitalism. Even relatively wealthy kids get very little out of capitalism. Kids are addicted to video games because they have no other control over their lives and are desperate for any kind of escape from this hellhole. Video games provide a world where work actually results in obvious achievements, while the vast majority of humanity is trapped in a world of endless toil with all the results and benefits going to a tiny minority.
It drives me crazy when people say your brain isn’t fully developed until you’re 25. Bruh our brains never stop changing.
Body-shaming when we all know that beauty is a social construct.
- The r-word never left. The 2000s and early 2010s was famed for the slur-comedy/south park/jeffrey star humor. Its like 5-6 years max and not even that because 2014 was the start of the SWJ cringe compilation era.

Cars. Even on this site cars don't get enough hate.
- It’s really sad when people get upset that there is a future where they aren’t trapped in their twenty year old Honda civic four hours a day.
- I want trams
- and honkeys
  
  honkies honking their car horns
- i hate cars but since they're mandatory to live i try to not think about how much i hate them

LED headlights on cars and LED lights in general.
Salary pay.
Forced overtime. I don't give a shit I'm getting paid more.
Calling mayonnaise aioli.
Charging additional money for your food because you call your mayonnaise aioli or any other bullshit fancy words to exotisize your dish.
The Korean War for inflicting Korean army stew (Budae Jjigae) and other culinary disasters upon the Korean people.
Alcohol in mouthwash when we were younger
Houses who's house numbers are hard to see from the street while driving before the advent of our Google overlords releasing maps.
Calvinists and any of their ideological descendants.
Lawn maintenance
Dust build up on surfaces in homes.
Mosquitoes
The fourth earl of sandwich for making sandwiches etymologically synonymous with his title. God damn English noblility.
Immanuel Kant
Potholes in the road
Americanized Chinese food.
Fucking yum yum sauce.
A lack of actual ethnic foods from around the world in the U.S across the U.S.
The Sweds for the abomination of subjecting mackerels to being tinned in cans with tomato sauce.
Cities where its businesses and public centers do not have bathrooms for the public, like Seattle.
- Just the LED headlights
  What about the rest of the car? Terrible invention. Ruins planets.
- If you want me to give your "aioli" any respect, then it better be: vegan (no eggs or any other kind of binding agent), so garlicky it makes me vampire-proof, and made with pungent and spicy southern Spanish oil.
  Fuck off with your runny, shitty mayo.
- Immanuel Kant
  based, we immanent in this house, take your transcendent critique back to liberalism
- Kant is a bit out of left field lol, but I agree, fuck Kant
  
  He had the categorical imperative to measure skulls and insert humans into racial hierarchies.
  Tldr goog kant race theory
- Salary pay
  Salary pay is awesome if you get overtime, which I understand is not the case in The Burger Reich. But in
  for example you get time and a half pay for extra hours worked, and it's nice not having to clock/log your hours all the damned time.
- Alcohol in mouthwash when we were younger
  They still put alcohol in mouth wash.
  
  not as much as it used to be, around 40 proof if I remember. It was already traumatic enough as is for me to accidentally get a mouthful of whiskey when I was three, but having to do something similar as a part of the cleansing ritual from a young age should get shat on
- LED headlights on cars and LED lights in general.
  LED headlights when aimed properly are amazing. LED headlights when aimed poorly are the devil. Also fuck trucks with their high ass headlights that are blinding even at a reasonable following distance.
  But I'd like to add that LED bulbs in halogen housings aka "poverty beams" should be made 200% illegal. If you commit this heinous act just go straight to the gulag. Halogen housings don't have the sharp cutoff needed for LED headlights, and pair that with the type of person to do this not being the type to aim the headlights properly and they're a legit hazard to the roads.
  
  I will endure being called a fucking luddite for the rest of human history if it means banning LEDs from the earth.
- Incredible list
- What's wrong with LEDs?
  
  Punishes every oncoming driver for the crime of being born with eyes
  
  They're evil objects
- Everybody and their moms complain about LED headlights. It’s a really handy dialectic than what they think actually doesn’t matter in the market or our so called liberal democracy.
  
  It's a plot by big bulb to make more profits off of forcing obsolescence on an entire perfectly finely lit world by cramming it full of lethal junk that's easier to manufacture to fail at planned times, cheaper to make, but easier to price gouge on! The auto and insurance companies are in on it too! More taxpayer spending to line their pockets making "safer" cars while profiting off of people getting injured because of unsafe lighting conditions caused by their devil lights by sucking the blood of the innocent with jacked up prices for being blinded by the devils lights and causing harm then being denied for coverage by the tight-fisted insurance kulaks!

Im going to say
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Also daylight savings time, AMLO banning that is the best thing he did with no negatives
- I second the bleach demons

Animal exploitation

CW: Animal abuse
Cosmetic Dog/pet tail docking. It's cruel, unnecessary, and frankly when these rich white people at the dog shows start talking about "breed standards" you have to wonder what they are really projecting there.
- The American/British Kennel Club or whatever it is needs to be burnt to the fucking ground, they are responsible for so much normalised animal cruelty
- We had to dock my old dog's tail because the vet was worried that she would wag it too hard into a doorframe and break her tail. I hope it didn't hurt her too much.

Oh, I forgot to mention what I think deserves more hate.
Cringe compilations. For some reason they've come back in the spotlight. I thought they died in the 2010s but I guess Trump winning has made people nostalgic for 2016.
Anti-woke shit deserves to be made fun of more too, as does general right-wing self seriousness.
Ableism seems to recently have gotten really fucking out of hand too. I feel like people in general have become way shittier towards anything out of step with the capitalist status quo. I feel like that whole desperation to be normal and fit in deserves to be mocked, rather than the current trend of hating on people for being "special" which in itself reeks of ableism

Canada.
We're trying so hard to be like the USA but we already have meagre healthcare and a couple labour laws that people really don't want to give up. I'd bet money that a proportional amount of people compared to the States is racist, sexist, and all the phobics. This country was built on slavery and unending genocide too and people here act like we're so much better. Fake ass oil company country
- The only - ONLY - reason that we've gotten away with being so shit is that we're every so slightly less shit than our immediate and only neighbour to the south. If we compare ourselves to like any other OECD or G7 country we're a disgrace (particularly with respect to how little we spend on social programs/services but also shit like poverty and police violence)

tbh the gen xers I've met are just are reactionary as the average boomer, they just have this veneer of "I'm just a laid back cool dude, man :)" where they'll say the same reactionary shit as boomers but instead of being sincere about it and getting worked up the way boomers do, they'll suffix it with "but I'm just joking man :) or am I? :))) don't be so serious bro :))))))))))"
- i feel like boomer is just in practice gen Xer, could be wrong tho
- You wrote out my thoughts exactly
  
  My biggest issue with Gen X is since they all got mind broken by Reagan even the libs are centrist shithead types from the ones I've met. Like with boomers sometimes you'll get a union person who's still got some of the old left fire, Millennials may be cringe but a lot are still left-libs being pipelined into socialism.
  The amount of X leftists just feels really low to me.
- Yeah too chicken shit to stand by what is said. "Oh thats not what he meant". Both em and boomers do thd same for shit trump says

Sándwiches that are too big to take a reasonable bit
- Agreed I love a nice little bit of meat, cheese and a few veggies slop your favorite sauces and you're done. None of this weird making a sandwich bigger than my head business, life isnt Scooby-Doo.

streamers
cape shit
putting too much sauce on things
marketers
putting things in bicycle lanes
american cinema in general
belgium

NATO

Alcohol.

Firefly, for three reasons.
One, the "heroic" war veteran crew were basically US civil war Confederates.
Two, Whedon's sexpest behaviour during production.
Three, it cemented Whedonistic dialog into pop culture.
- Four, they all speak Mandarin because of some historic cultural amalgamation, but there's not a single Asian person on the crew (or in the show that I can remember)
  
  this one is so deeply strange to me, like they made it up it's not a real existing cultural appropriation so why would people so uncomfortable with chinese people choose for that to be the thing? they could've chosen other languages plausibly white or adjacent that'd still indicate the cosmopolitan space culture
- Three, it cemented Whedonistic dialog into pop culture.
  I feel like The Avengers is more responsible for cementing it into culture, but yeah, I have no desire to revisit Firefly despite liking it when I first watched it.
- whedonistic
  Aaaaa
  
  Does that mean quipless dialogue is anwhedonic?
- One, the "heroic" war veteran crew were basically US civil war Confederates.
  What?
  
  In the audio commentary of the pilot episode (it's been 10,000 years so might be a different episode) Whedon talks about the war being space US Civil War and Mal is inspired by the confederate soldiers who went west after the war because the inner planets = manufacturing power and center of government like the north, and outer planets = agrarians who are having their 'rights' trampled like the south. Obviously it's a prime time show from 2001 written entirely by white people so there's no discussion of slavery, the closest it gets is one episode does feature an outer planet guy who 'owns' people via their debts to him
  
  There's a whole lot of dogwhistle language that "Confederate history buffs" would recognize. For example, how Mal occasionally talks about his side rising again.

Scotland is one of my hobby horses.
Now you’d think that they were a poor uwu wittle baby who were conquered instead of willingly joining in order to get more of that colonial pie as they spectacularly failed at establishing their own colonies. Scottish people have deluded themselves into thinking that they went through the same thing as the Irish rather than acting as the attack dogs of the English for the last 300 years, ironically also in Ireland. Being marginally less bad than the English is no great feat.
- As a Scot, it’s annoying seeing people think that we are a “colony” of the English, because they do have an assumption of Scotland and England as different nations with different cultures and (sometimes shared) histories but assume that England annexed us illiegaly. we only formed the Union with England because we fucked up in our own efforts at imperialism, which we massively failed at and fucking bankrupted us. I would say that deciding to try and join the likes of England, France, Spain, the Netherlands etc in colonialism was the single worst decision that we ever made. Although one argument could be that the 1320 deflation of Arbroath talked about the sovereignty of the people and the 1707 Union was done against the wishes of the people, but that doesn’t make Scotland a full blown “colony”. Especially if many of us still support this union and/or willing joined the English as British imperialists. In many aspects, Scotland and England are different. But in some, we’re the same.
- Usually its people conflating lowlands with highlands. Lowland scots are northumbrian anglo saxons who became part of the Kingdom of Scotland and therefore identify as such, but they arent celtic (well no more than northern english). While Highland Scots are the norse-celtic "victims of english oppression" (the oppression was done by lowlands scots in accord with "true" english officials)
  Also there were "catholic english" migrants in Ireland that sided with the irish and got oppressed by england as well, while the scottish settlers in the north, well acted as settlers.
  
  Yeah, the main reason it gets me riled up is that the domestic aristocracy of Scotland, which is from the same group of people that make up and have made up the vast majority of Scottish people for centuries, are treated as foreign. It is an easy way to wash your hands of any sins, just pretend that you're part of the outgroup. It is a bit like Swedish people or Norwegians claiming they were opressed by identifying with the struggles that Sami people endure at their hand.
  The same courtesy is rarely afforded the English who were also systematically cleared off land during the enclosures of the commons so it could be "better exploited" by land owners. England gets treated as a monolith despite there being many outgroups that were similarly persecuted by the state (Quakers, Romanichal, Irish Travellers, Lollards etc).

Btw Idaho used to have the largest percentage of mandarin speakers in the united states. Boise had a vibrant chinatown. Its absolute whiteness is a recent construction. (Ignoring all the natives besides)
- Boise's chinatown was reincorporated (read: ghettoized) into a separate town government in 1967, in backlash to the growing Chinese population flipping a mayoral election the wrong way. The resulting Garden City is almost completely surrounded by Boise.

millenials are starting to get a good amount of hate
Bro people have always hated us, boomers hated us, now gen X and zoomers hate us lmao. We are cheesy as fuck nerds because advertising tried too hard to sell us "cool" when we were kids so when we hit our twenties we instead embraced being cringe as shit. Well, some of us did, the others became Ben Shapiro's.
gen z obviously gets all the “ugh what’s wrong with the youth
Which is funny because gen Z aren't even that young anymore but they do seem super obsessed with generational warfare
Anyway no, I'm not going to hate gen X because generational warfare is stupid and phases like 'gen -insert letter-' were just invented by marketing to categorise advertising demographics.
- I love millennials, so many of the based people I know are in that age range. And all the least are Gen X 🤔
  
  Thank you for not thinking we are cringe
  it sucks because the kinda mainstream stereotypical millenials are pretty damn cringy but a lot of that we left in our highschool years. I was always cool though
  (NOT)
  
  I know shitty and based people from Boomer, X , Millennial and Z.
- I think it's the last 1/3 of the gen-z'ers that seem to think millenials are super cringe. My gen z friends that are in their late 20s are dope.
- Which is funny because gen Z aren't even that young anymore but they do seem super obsessed with generational warfare
  
  Some are hitting their 30s now iirc
  These generation labels have a wide range though so not all of them. Another reason why these labels are stupid.
  
  I don't know how to interpet this, but zoomers definitely hate gen x/boomers a lot
- Lol that’s why I said if we’re gonna do. It’s stupid, but everybody these days seems really into it so if we’re gonna go down that path I say gen x should get more hate

You know what, autocorrect. Sometime in the last 5 years autocorrect on my phone started suggesting the dumbest shit. I can literally type out a full word that grammatically makes sense and autocorrect will replace it with some other bullshit.

Things that don’t get as much hate as they deserve I’ll start:
Idaho
The post is off to a strong start. I'll add Nebraska to it
- all i know about nebraska is that it's where the corn is

Foster care. I don’t have a leftist analysis of this. Just a lot of personal experience and bitter hatred. It’s a violent ass institution that’s rife with abuse, racism, and class warfare
- I think something like 65% of foster children end up homeless as adults if not more. I agree, it is totally fucked. Child Protective Services as well. I couldve been taken away from my mom when I was young... I lived a very traumatic childhood but who knows what the hell couldve happened to me if I was placed in foster care
  
  CPS is also racist as shit. anecdotally, im white, so when they visited me they had no interest in even asking me if anything happened. then this black kid i knew growing up got taken from his mom for basically nothing (don't remember what it was exactly i met the guy years ago) and put in a shitty foster home where the lady running it was also racist
- Foster care and the welfare of and for the children need to be rebuilt from the ground up.
  
  How should it be done?

"Israel"

Hey Soul Sister by Train
Absolute dogshit
- Drops of fucking Jupiter. Tie train to a traintrack
- You'll like this
  
  I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video

Reality TV

okay i'll go with the first thing i thought of. people who gatekeep/fake claim other people's mental illnesses. especially if it's just behind official diagnosis (which is classism). doing that does so much harm to vulnerable people in service of trying to make it seem like people with your mental illness aren't "cringe" to weirdos who like eugenics

To be honest, MOST of the US is similar to Idaho. Most anywhere that isn't within an hour or so of a large city is a complete backwater filled with racist white assholes.
- I mean in a sane world the whole United States would be associated with virulent racism, but there are certain geographic areas that get a stronger association in the popular imagination. Idaho I think has flown under the radar for far too long.
  
  Eastern Washington/Oregon too

I will never forget doing a cross country road trip with my friend from Canada who had never been to the US, and as we cross the border from Idaho to Montana, and we're stopped at a light and he turns to me with a complete straight face and says, bewildered, "So Idaho is not a real place right?"
- The Spuds Have Eyes

Right wing politics: most overrated garbage one can imagine. This applies to leftists too. You don’t hate the right and everyone part of it nearly enough.
Hard agree on Idaho, though. As far as I’m concerned, any part of the US that isn’t Hawai’i or maybe some parts of NY and San Francisco are “the deep south” it’s all the same and none of this dogshit culture matters.

home printers

Idaho is a very beautiful place, it's a shame Chuds have completely dominated it.
-I dunno if it's everywhere or local to the midwestern city I live in but they've quietly gotten rid of all the school busses, so now every school zone in this relatively large city has enormous lines that choke every road in and out of every school in the city twice a day for two hours. It's a massive inconvenience to the entire city that's been justified as a 'cost savings' when in reality it's just throwing that cost onto everyone else in a less efficient way.
-Low hanging fruit but Harry Potter. There's a lot of anti-Rowling sentiment these days that tries to separate her from the world she created but it's very obvious that all the nasty shit about her made it into the series. Obviously around here people don't generally like the books but the general public has not seriously read them since they were children and thinks they're awesome.
- Oh god completely hear you on the school car lines. I don’t even think my town has gotten rid of the school busses, but every suburbanite parent I guess feels like they have to drive their kid to and from school in a big suv these days. Annoying as hell, and it’s like every single school around here with these lines too.
  
  Where I live this happens at all the bougie private schools and they don’t bother trying to line up, they just park wherever they want, including the bike lane, on the crosswalk, on the sidewalk, and then complain about 1984 totalitarianism when they get a ticket
  
  Imagine delivering parcels in these neighbourhoods, you just have to know which roads are completely impassible at what times, and plan your day around it, good fucking luck if you don't know the area in extreme detail.

idaho's really bad
montana's full of nazis or whatever too but at least weed and abortions are legal here, the idaho panhandle is a weird half hour drive through raw fascism between WA and MT
- Its called the Northwest imperative. West Coast is already founded on utopianism and the northwest, especially as a white-only classical liberal utopia.
  
  I hear eastern Oregon is absolutely teeming with Nazis. Probably a lot more in total numbers than Idaho or Montana.

Capitalism

The movie "Pacific Rim." Shit was corny as hell
- The only thing wrong with Pacific Rim is that it wasn't a four hour long cut of big ass robots clowning big ass monsters in every biome on Earth. I want to watch Gipsy Danger cut a Kaiju in half with the People's Elbow from the top of a mountain. Lemme see Striker Eureka smash a Kaiju into a railway so an incoming Shinkansen blows through its skull like a kinetic rod. Shit, one of them wielded a ship like a baseball bat, let me see a train used as a whip or a garotte. Midair Kurosawa blade jump that ends with a Kaiju landing intact and then slowly sliding apart in two pieces while the Jaeger slowly gets up.
  
  Yes but unironically, this is my main gripe with big robots especially and sci-fi action movies in general. I came here to watch the giant robots or spaceships beating the shit out of eachother, i don't need vapid 10 minute romance or 30 minutes of shallow hamfisted psychological drama included. If i wanted that, there's dedicated genres with like million movies out there already.

Big agree on Idaho, and somewhat on the gen x'ers. Ive really been wanting to camp and explore Idaho because it seems really pretty, but it makes me pretty damn nervous. I'm white even, but dress alternative or whatever so I feel like there might be some kinda singling out outside of Boise, maybe.
I think some of this generational stuff depends on where you land, kinda feel like there are 2/3 different grouoings in each category. but ive noticed that a lot of gen x'ers I know seem to have turned from apolitical to reactionary. My parents are early gen X and they all of a sudden decided to become trump supporters, they've been separated for years too so they developed independently. Lame since many gen xers grew up with Rage Against the Machine and/or System of a Down. Some late gen x/early millenials can be chill though but seem to fall into this trap as well.(I am a mid millenial if it matters)

to be fair, this is me half of the time
- Same
- This just makes them look cool lol
  
  Yeah, "cool"

Gen X's parents hated them too that's why they're the latchkey generation but you're right, the younger gens could definitely punch the hate up.

Tripping on DXM. This drug is the OTC poison of choice for desperate teenagers, and that unfortunately gives it a very bad reputation.
But DXM is actually one of the safer hallucinogens out there so long as you get a DXM only product and don't mix it with certain other drugs. It's definitely the closest thing to Ketamine you can buy at walmart or amazon, that's for sure. Highly recommend that one.
edit: read the title backwards on this one, this gets more hate than it deserves haha
- Gives me an insane histamine response. Like massive itching/hives.
  
  I had that happen to me a couple times on freebase DXM but never on HBr. Was it a large dose, high plateau trip?