VILenin [he/him] @ VILenin @hexbear.net

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Liberals are experts at criticizing things they haven’t read

You claim to be communist and yet you work. Curious!

There are a few ways to shut off the engine without touching the fuel switches, if this happened it should have been logged, but they haven’t released the raw data.

At this point in the flight the pilot flying should have both hands on the yoke, and the other pilot is responsible for raising the gear, flaps, making radio calls etc. Definitely neither pilot should have their hands anywhere near the fuel switches, but fatigue has been demonstrated to make massive mistakes possible. Raising the gear level is vaguely similar (you have to pull it out of a detente and flip it over a notch). Of course the gear lever is nowhere near the fuel switches, but that goes back to my point about fatigue. It’s extremely rare, but the safety mechanism for the switches has failed before, if this happened it would make accidentally flipping them an easier thing to do.

But as I’ve said, intent is a very hard thing to prove. The only times pilot suicide has unambiguously been proven is when they a)locked the other pilot out, or b) were recorded ranting and raving in the cockpit. Hopefully the AAIB can determine if there was a mechanical fault. But if they determine that the switches are the reason, I would guess the final report would say the cause is “due to activation of the fuel cutoff switches for unknown reasons”, or some variation of that.

Take Air France 447, for example. The first officer pulled the nose up while in a stall and held it in that position despite every pilot learning on day one to do the exact opposite. He continued to do so even when the captain told him to push the nose down. Was that pilot suicide? A possibility, yes, but something that’s unprovable.

Well, reading the report, there seems to be some ambiguity. It’s unclear if the recorder is based off of the physical position of the fuel cutoff switches or off of a digital reading.

I have flown the 787. As for the switches themselves, they are in a detente and you have to pull them against a spring and over a notch to move them to the off position. It’s hard to imagine how they would be moved unintentionally, especially by these experienced pilots. The report says they were shut off within 1 second of each other.

One of the pilots asks the other why they shut off the switches, the other pilot denies it, and shortly afterwards they are turned back on but by then it’s too late.

So, I can see where the “murder/suicide” people are coming from, but it’s important to understand that this report is the preliminary report mandated by ICAO and is for informational purposes only. Only the final report will determine a probable cause for the accident, if it can be determined, and looking at the facts, it’s unlikely that they can come to a definite conclusion, since there is no video footage of the cockpit. If there was something wrong with the switches, they will be very lucky if they can still tell. If one of the pilots switched them off, it’s impossible to know which one and why, and who turned them back on (and if it was the same pilot after realizing a mistake).

Who color grades shitty CCTV video? It’s not footage for a movies. I highly doubt the CCTV equipment in prisons are so unbelievably shitty that you need to process it to determine whether or not a person walks into the frame

Landlords should be locked in a mold-infested room until they fucking die, hopefully the spores make them go crazy and kill each other

Daddy, when I grow up I want to be a faceless goon that elicits zero sympathy when the protagonist tosses me out the back of a plane

Liberals learned their politics from star wars, expecting any amount of literacy from them is naive

They also think they legally become the government if they stand inside an official building for long enough

Microsoft would change its logo to a swastika if they determined it would increase shareholder value 0.00001%

It’s cheaper and has the same effect if you lock all the teachers in a room and pump lead fumes into it

Slow news day at MSNBC huh

I’m going to log into your account and click “mark all as read”

Wonder how long it’ll take for him to declare victory saying he scared his enemies and roll this one back?

Eternity (under the) C

Looking forward to 5 years from now when it’s antisemitic to even suggest that anything happened that night and they release CCTV footage showing empty streets for 12 hours

Israelis would rather have a racially pure child from corpse sperm than adopt any one of the millions of orphan children around the world

Lockheed Martin executives be like: [smoking a $100 bill] Afghanistan was a failure? Cause it sure don’t feel like it

Go nowhere? Hey now, a few lucky lawyers in Texas are going to get very, very, very wealthy, and the victims might even get a 10 cent check in the mail a few decades down the line!