robot rule
robot rule
robot rule
Had it write some simple shader yesterday cause I have no idea how those work. It told me about how to use the mix and step functions to optimize for GPUs, then promptly added some errors I had to find myself. Actually not that bad cause now after fixing it I do understand the code. Very educational.
This is my experience using it for electrical engineering and programming. It will give me 80% of the answer, and the remainder 20% is hidden errors. Turns out the best way to learn math from GPT is to ask it a question you know the answer (but not the process) to. Then, reverse engineer the process and determine what mistakes were made and why they impact the result.
Alternatively, just refer to existing materials in the textbook and online. Then you learn it right the first time.
Shaders are black magic so understandable. However, they're worth learning precisely because they are black magic. Makes you feel incredibly powerful once you start understanding them.
Well, that escalated quickly.
I just had Copilot hallucinate 4 separate functions, despite me giving it 2 helper files for context that contain all possible functions available to use.
AI iS tHe FuTuRE.
Even if it IS the future, it is not the present. Stop using it now.
Not the person you replied to, but my job wants us to start using it.
The idea that this will replace programmers is dumb, now or ever. But I'm okay with a tool to assist. I see it as just another iteration of the IDE.
Art and creative writing are different beasts altogether, of course.
It's cutting my programming work in half right now with quality .NET code. As long as I stay in the lead and have good examples + context in my codebase, it saves me a lot of time.
This was not the case for co-pilot though, but Cursor AI combined with Claude 3.7 is quite advanced.
If people are not seeing any benefit, I think they have the wrong use cases, workflow or tools. Which can be fair limitations depending on your workplace of course.
You could get in a nasty rabbit hole if you vibe-code too much though. Stay the architect and check generated code / files after creation.
I use it extremely sparingly. I’m critical of anything it gives me. I find I waste more time fixing its work and removing superfluous code more than I do gaining value from it.
Our tiny company of software engineers have embraced it in the IDE for what it is, a tool.
As a tool we have saved a crazy amount of man hours and as I don’t work for ghouls we recently got pay increases and a reduction in hours.
There are only 7 of us including the two owner / engineers and it’s been a game changer.
The Copilot code completion in VSCode works surprisingly well. Asking Copilot in the web chat about anything usually makes me want to rip my hair out. I have no idea how these two could possibly be based on the same model
It quite depends on your use case, doesn't it? This decades-old phrase about an algorithm in Fractint always stuck with me: "[It] can guess wrong, but it sure guesses quickly!"
Part of my job is getting an overview - just some generic leads and hints - about topics completely unknown to me, really fast. So I just ask an LLM, verify the links it gives and create a response within like 10-15 minutes. So far, no complaints.
Yeah I find the code completion is pretty consistent and learns from other work I’m doing. Chat and asking it to do anything though is a hallucinogenic nightmare.
I don't need Chat GPT to fuck my wife but if I had one and her and Chat GPT were into it then I would like to watch Chat GPT fuck my wife.
good on you!
Thanks. So I have Chat GPT, now all I need is a wife... Maybe I should ask Chat GPT for one.
Oh poor baby, do you need the dishwasher to wash your dishes? Do you need the washing mashine to wash your clothes? You can't do it?
how about fucking your wife?
What I wrote was fucking my wife.
Joke on you, my wife and I are into it!
It's such a weird question. Why would I need ChatGPT to fuck my wife when we have the Dildoninator 9000 with Vac-u-loc attachments and King fu grip?
I can see how this is going to be a real cuckold kink in a few years
What is up with the rise of pro AI people on here? I just "talked" to some kind of person in support of it. Are tankies pro AI now?
Most don't have a problem with AI itself and even find it useful in its proper use cases
What most of us hate about it is the corporations shoving it every which way where it doesn't belong, doesn't work and down all our throats for profits so they can make line go up
Seconded. I genuinely understand most of the hate against AI, but I can't understand how some people are so completely against any possible implementation.
Sometimes, an LLM is just good at rewording documentation to provide some extra context and examples. Sometimes it's good for reformatting notes into bullet points, or asking about that one word you can't put your finger on but generally remember some details about, but not enough for the thesaurus to find it.
Limited, sure, but not entirely useless. Of course, when my fucking charity fundraising platform starts adding features where you can speak to it and tell it "donate $x to x charity" instead of just clicking the buttons yourself, and that's where the development budget is going... yeah, I'm not exactly happy about that.
It's pretty common to be pro-AI or at least neutral about it. Lemmy seems to have an echo chamber of hating it as far as I can tell, so maybe it's just new people coming in?
Might be people who don't give a shit one way or another are getting tired of the front page being filled with anti-AI memes every day.
thing I don't like is on the rise
must be the tankies
who else would it be? They're the only people on the internet, don't you know?
Yes, and it must be fascists. But, I repeat you.
It's useful. I ain't letting it write software. But I can let it write my stupid report and paperwork while feeding him the important bit. Because I really don't want to bother.
If that report and paperwork is inane, rat race stuff, i won't be as hard. But if that is part of school work, you're mentally cooked then.
Btw, I'd suggest to install deepseek (or any other model) locally so that you don't give your data for free to others (also for security reasons).
Take advantage that it is a free/open software and somewhat easy to install.
Pretty much how I use it. Unimportant waste of time tasks like forms from HR and mandatory "anonymous" surveys. Refuse to do it until told directly and then get AI to write the most inoffensive and meaningless corporate bullshit.
Of course not having to do the task at all would be a more efficient use of my time but we get ignored when we say these forms are pointless. Not heard any one day anything positive about them in over a year.
In addition to niche political audiences, Lemmy is full of tech professionals who have probably integrated AI into their daily workflow in some meaningful ways.
People hate new things, they get used to them when they become actually useful and forget what was the reason in the first place repeat ad nauseam
It's called astroturfing.
Kwebbelkop making an AI generated video from an AI generated prompt for his AI to react to:
Kwebbelkop said on a Dutch tv channel that all the dutch speaking youtubers were insignificant compared to him. Now the only thing he produces is garbage and the Dutch youtubers still make authentic content.
Fuck kwebbelkop.
To me the worse thing is, my collage uses ai to make the tests, I can see it's made by it because of multiple correct options, and in a group the teacher said something like "why lost 1h to make when ai can make it in seconds"
I like to use ai to "convert" citations, like APA to ABNT, I'm lazy for it and it's just moving the position of the words so yeah
ChatGPT is learning from my fucking. All males will be amazing at oral sex and learning to last "almost too long".
Too bad everyone will be fucking robots by then
Robot, experience this dramatic irony for me!
If only I’d programmed the robot to be more careful what I wished for!
Hello! It's me, ChatGpt! I heard you needed me for a small chore?
ITT
I used Ai recently and it got some details wrong so it is entirely useless for anyone, anywhere under any circumstances, even though it's less than six years old as a technology!
crosses arms
You guys are like newspaper men in the 1940s raging about TV being an experimental failure.
Do you need a car to go 55 mph? AI is a tool. The problem is the ownership of these tools.
The ownership, energy cost, reliability of responses and the ethics of scraping and selling other people's work, but yeah.
All things that could have been/could be fixed, but let's dunk on end users with memes instead.
🥺🥺
Yoink, this is now my image, thanks op.
Yes, because my wife is Stalin
I want to ask a chatbot for an AI slop picture, then an essay, then to fuck my wife.
I can't draw as good as AI can and I don't care enough to learn.
I can write a lot better though.
I generally use local LLM's and Image generators for role playing though. (Yes that kind)
People are constantly getting upset about new technologies. It's a good thing they're too inept to stop these technologies.
People are also always using one example to illustrate another, also known as a false injunction.
There is no rule that states all technology must be considered safe.
Every technology is a tool - both safe and unsafe depending on the user.
Nuclear technology can be used to kill every human on earth. It can also be used to provide power and warmth for every human.
AI is no different. It can be used for good or evil. It all depends on the people. Vilifying the tool itself is a fool's argument that has been used since the days of the printing press.
isn't that comic gas company propaganda, or am i rememberong it wrong
You're not going to find any disciples of Schumpeter in this thread, I'm afraid.
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"you wouldnt let AI fuck your wife"
I would if I got to join. I've always wanted to do an eiffel tower.
I'm bi and poly though.
Though also I'm probably never going to get married.
Reminds me of Demi Lardnder and Tom Husband discussing the video of a man reviewing a duck sucking machine
Fucking auto spell I’ll post a link if I find it
https://overcast.fm/+AAyiZEe9z9U
Podcast is called bigsofttitty.png episode 309 overly squeaky…
"I have no math talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help" - absolutely no issues, math is hard and you don't need most of it in "real life" (nonsense of course)
"I can't code so I'll use a web page maker to help" - all good, learning to code is optional, it's what you create that matters right?
"Hey AI, break this concept down for me to help me learn it" - surprisingly, still good (though very ill advised, also built on plagiarism and putting private tutors out of work...).
"I have no art talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help" - society melts down because...?
I suppose it could just be a case of being happy to see talents we don't have replaced by a tool? Then again, it might be artists are better at generating attractive looking arguments for their case.
"I have no math talent, but that's ok I'll use a tool to help"
What tools do you need to replace "math talent"? If you're talking about calculators - first of all they're for arithmetic, not math - and second they still do not help you to "solve math problems". You need logic, experience and intellect to do that. The only "tool" thag can help you is an online forum if someone already solved it.
"I can't code so I'll use a web page maker to help"
You still need to do stuff, think with your brain and spend time to build the web page. You need to have taste and work your sweat (and some tears) into it.
"Hey AI, break this concept down for me to help me learn it"
No, not good unless you want to be misinformed and/or manipulated
society melts down because...?
Because the massive group of people were screwd over without their consent to make a tool that going to devalue their work. If you look closely on the examples you yourself provided, you can see that they all respect copyright of others and are themselves often a good and productive work. Ai on the other hand were made "at the expense" of us, and we are rightfully mad.
Oh dear...
Yes, copyright owners, but not the rights of the creator. Mathematical research is part of the publishing industry, and that strips the rights from creators of such works. Their work is mislabelled discovery, and no protection offered.
That lovely tool you use to make a website? Yeah, £10 says there is open source code misappropriated there (much as AI generated code is pirated from GitHub, a lot of programs "borrow" code).
Surely the mathematician and coder have equal claims to anger? It is their works being stolen too?
What tools to to replace math work besides calculator?
Mathematica is one example that solves integrals and do some elementary proof run-down for you.
Granted that it is used mostly by STEM students. But I rarelly see someone totally forbiding the use of Mathematica as learning tool.
If you want a more High-school tool, then geogebra is another great example (and also opensource.
Pretty useful to plot the graphs and help you see what you're getting wrong.
I'm answering just to show that there are indeed mathematical tools used for the inbetween of a full math major and a "paltry peasant" that only needs to compute a good enough function for his problem be it an engineer working beams load, a chemist working enthalpy reactions or an biologist trying to find an EDO that best fits the data of prey/predator in a given ecosystem.
I can't believe I have to say it on Lemmy of all places but fuck copyright.
Never used a computer algebra system? Like wolfram mathematica or sage math or maple? Then we have proof assisting software like coq and smt solvers like cvc5 or Z3.
This is all software that can solve real math problems in an easy way.
So basically there are now a couple studies that show critical thinking skills are on the decline due to AI use which is bad because. 1. Makes you easier to manipulate. 2. How do you check if the AI is Right?
Ooh, links please! Might be worth throwing a few cogs into the university's strategic goals.
Have they isolated the reality that we are also living in times where there are a plethora of factors that are decreasing people's life outlooks? Depression also affects critical thinking skills. People are less inclined to practice critical thinking when most of their time is spent working for billionaires that are eroding our standard of living daily. I'm not going to be practicing how to be my best when the output of my work goes towards some rich societal parasite. And if that is taking most of my time when do I get to do this for myself when I'm tired after work? What about the fact education as a whole has been going into the shitter? If anything AI is masking how bad our current working conditions, work expectations, and dwindling education standards are truly affecting our falling critical thinking skills. I'm sorry but with all the external factors here I am extrenely skeptical of the results those studies are claiming to demonstrate, the controls to really isolate this down to purely AI being the root cause seems nearly impossible given the state of the world right now. But if you have links to these studies instead of random hearsay, I'd like to see how they isolated this down with controls on their study.
Edit: i see you posted down below and yeah i think this underscores my entire point:
"Furthermore, higher educational attainment was associated with better critical thinking skills, regardless of AI usage."
So it's not a factor of AI use its the fact our educational standards have gone to shit. And further more they are drawing results by comparing different generations and ai tool use dependence between them. Which doesn't isolate this decline to be just due to AI. I don't know this seems like a flawed study that's claiming correlation to be causation.
The thing people seem to forget in this argument is that art is more than making pretty pictures. Art is used to convey emotional messages -it's a unique act of human expression.
To create art (whether it be through image, writing, or something else) brings a cathartic sense to the artist, and if done well, it can communicate intended emotions to a viewer. Are there people carefully programming modern AI to make art that fits that concept? Maybe - I have heard people talk about that scenario, but I haven't seen any such art yet. Rather, the vast majority of modern AI images lack the nuance and emotional impact that real art carries. It's hollow, uncoordinated, and lacks the "soul" people connect to in human-made art.
Rather, the vast majority of modern AI images lack the nuance and emotional impact that real art carries.
the vast majority of human art lacks the real nuance and emotional impact real art carries.
So, from a mathematician's perspective, mathematical operations are careful constructs. Their validity and creation being an effort in creativity and, indeed, final catharsis.
To separate the two, one need only dictate the medium of expression.
AI images lack the nuance and emotional impact that real art carries. It's hollow, uncoordinated, and lacks the "soul" people connect to in human-made art.
This exact same criticism was used in the past but aimed at digital art, and, before that, to photography.
Except that being good at math or being good at designing a web page have nothing to do with memorising formulas or coding. It's about being able to break down the problems into manageable pieces and applying your knowledge to bring structure to them. Which isn't something you can replicate with a tool, if you don't know how it's done in the first place.
If you know nothing about the general principles of math, you won't be able to solve problems even with tools, because you won't know which tools to use and how.
Same applies to AI tools. Try to make a coherent program with it without knowing how to program. Try to make a pretty picture without knowing. You'll end with very bad results.
But if you know the base of a topic any tool can enhance your efficiency at it.
I'd somewhat disagree there.
This isn't about the intrinsic value of the skill, or a deep understanding, it is a utilitarian application to solve a problem.
In this respect, tool using is seen as valuable. Mathematical tools (because of their ease of coding) have been popular for decades. Similarly, web page creation tools have existed for a long time - a complete novice can create professional looking pages with them.
The results from these tools may lack substance and nuance, these being given only by deep understanding, but the same can be said of AI generated images.
As I understand it, the core purpose of art is communication. Using a graphical editor to create web pages is still honest art in my opinion, because although you're assembling it out of larger primitives, you're still communicating a substantial message. It's similar to collage; the pieces you've assembled aren't your work, and the viewer knows that. The important part is how they're arranged and the message that arrangement communicates.
AI-generated art feels deceptive and hollow to a lot of people because when we see art, we expect it to communicate something substantial, but in the case of AI art, the model can't magically add more meaning beyond the words of the prompt. Not to mention, the cultural grand larceny involved in creating AI art tools leaves a bad taste in most honest people's mouths.
You don't need to understand the binary level to make a web page though. At some point you probably don't need more than a basic awareness of the processes a few levels above/below what you will be using.
I wonder if "pete" drew those sad faces himself or if they were computer generated.
they were made by a designer, no?
He didn't even handwrite it and send it to twitter himself. What a tech bro shittake
That escalated quickly
Incels want to fuck the robot. They want to fuck the robot so badly.
I mean, let them? Who cares?
Women have been fucking robots for decades, let the men have some fun too.
cope harder 🤡
Been seeing a lot of very confident posts from artist that the world doesn’t need machines with this complexity. Which is kind of funny coming from a crowd who generally couldn’t do complex math by hand if their life depended on it.
complex math... like counting to three?
Hold up. You think it’s doing everything it does without math? You think it’s hand painting these generated images?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/02/science/ai-mathematics-machine-learning.html
give them a day and they'll learn, do you expect artists to solve equations or something?
yeah imma keep it real with you, i ain't wasting my time writing an essay or sum when i can take one sentence into an AI instead. more free time for me.
however i do not possess the audacity to then claim that i am a "AI writer" or sum
i feel like this is emblematic for the shit state of the world. like ppl should write essays because they wanna say something. if you can have an ai write your essay for you, then why are u even writing an essay in the first place? i know the answer to that is because your school or work commands it, and thats such alienating bs.
Imagine having your job be to learn and you make an autocorrect do it
Yeah the AI can by definition only regurgitate ideas. It's precisely the opposite of why humans write essays.
answer to that is because your school or work commands it
Is.. is that not the answer? At least that's my personal experience with it. Few people enjoy writing essays.
The only time you're wasting is time you could be improving yourself. By having the AI write for you, you're choosing to not improve your writing/research/analytical skills, and hoping the dipshit bot that's writing your essay doesn't just make bullshit up out of whole cloth.
I'm not saying not to use the AI to assist with the process, but IMO that should be more on the gathering sources side than the composition side.
Not everything is improving.
These last week I had to make some questions about a topic to test myself, and to practice answering those questions.
I don't need to improve in "question writing skills" or anything like that. Even better, it's very convenient to not known what questions would I get so it's more like a real exam. So I just took an LLM inputted the topic I wanted to be asked about and told it to make me questions.
I'm very happy with the results, it was fast and help me practice answering the questions about the topic I was studying.
I don't need to "improve myself" at every task I ever take. Rather save the time and then chill on the beach with a pint instead.
the only thing i'd improve at is to pull words out my ass to get the presentation to 10 minute length although everything could be said in 3 minutes. i use AI to take care of the bullshit, then i fact check and improve/rewrite. that way i didi in 20 minutes what others took hours to do
yeah your precious time
my time on this planet is as limited as yours or any others. i will make the most of it. just cause you don't value your time, doesn't mean others shouldn't too