Spend money and consume!

The AI slop doesn't belong on here.
- Are you referring to the cartoon version of that “other woman” meme?
  
  Yes, and it's poorly done, too. The "other woman" shouldn't be noticing the guy looking at her.

if the soyjak was hugging the shitty ghibli AI slop while complaining about the rest, this would've been 10/10

I am ok with everything in this but fuck AI slop.

Ohh, Lemmy support AI slop now, which the software is own and trained by- check note -mega corporation. That didn't take long.
- Also there's a sneaky little "Support your local artist" on the crying wojak.
  Artist/gamedev here, and AI slop does nothing but saturate our spaces with worthless garbage. Feel free to remix my content in any way you want. My game engine is also open source, you can either just use it as it is, or even use some of its parts for your own. But if you think AI is somehow good, then please don't even touch my content, just ask ChatGPT or watever to make you the same thing based on the same idea I had, but AI.
- When I first joined lemmy local AI was pretty popular here. Popular opinion has shifted a lot in the anti-ai direction recently, especially after the recent internet-wide outcry after OpenAI announced that model a few weeks ago. Corporate AI was never liked, but there used to usually be popular comments defending local AI.
  It's probably partially because the last notable advancement in local image gen AI was about 8 months ago now IMO (the flux model release). Also, 'open source' ai has become progressively less of a thing, with most models (even ones with released weights that you can run locally) released under restrictive licenses, probably turning away the foss-leaning fediverse population.
  I think I have personally realized, since then, that the benefits of from-scratch image generation on society as a whole are almost nonexistent and "it's fun to play with for a few hours" isn't enough really justification for the potential harm to artists.
  
  I really don't have issue with AI, the issue i have is post like these. Real people are getting affect by this AI and losing income due to this, it's real dick move to mock their anger and frustration.

Comparing individual piracy with a mega corp making millions of other peoples art style. I see.
- there are models an individual can run on gaming hardware (ones that fit in the GPU's vram or apu's shared RAM)
  
  Someone got some cut down versions of Stable Diffusion to run on a Pi Zero 2 a couple years ago ($15 computer)
  Apparently it takes between 30 minutes and 10 hours to generate an image, but it's still fairly impressive that it can do that at all

Thievery removes the original
Piracy COPIES the original
- What if I stole a clipping from ur apple tree. It's still there but now I have one too
  Is that piracy or theft
  
  Guerilla horticulture.

I don't think anyone says the Ghibli filter is copyright infringement. You can't really copyright an art-style. It's just kinda a dick move.
- I think you'd have to have a pretty unique style but if you could come up with one, you might be able to trademark it rather than copyright it.
- Why is it a dick move?
  
  Because Myasaki has very publically spoken about thinking AI generated stuff is horrible and soulless, and that he'd never use it. Them coming out with a Ghibli filter felt like it was a reaction to that.

One of these things is not like the others

Is the top right one of these AI Ghibli images, that I've heard of these last few weeks?
Also, why is Fallout London and Skyblivion on that picture? Bethesda are supporting mods for their games, they don't care that someone makes new stuff. Have they ever blocked one of these mods, like Take2 or Nintendo always do?
- Because Bethesda tried to make money off of modders' work, that's why. Bethesda is as cancerous as Nintendo, especially after acquisition when the office "hunger games" started.
  It's like charging you 45% after building a house for using their shovel...
  
  That's entirely different case though? They didn't pull the shit with FOL and Skyblivion.
  
  Ok? I don't think taking money for mods is wrong. It's not like Bethesda did this without the modders knowledge. Free mods still existed. Nowadays people just open a Patreon to get paid for this stuff.
  What "hunger games" stuff do you mean.

There's still time to delete this

Meanwhile we'll just take this mod and make it a gamemode, Charge for ideas used in emulators, charge for emulators.

Very nice! Now, let's see Paul Allen's straw man...

I look forward to opensource games on an opensource game store that allows devs to get paid. That would be amazing.
Anti Commercial-AI license
- https://itch.io/ is pretty close just no exclusivly OS
- That would be nice.
- that allows devs to get paid
  I can't believe indie devs like LocalThunk or Toby Fox don't get any money when someone buys their games. It's really bizarre.
  Or do you mean, that there are open source game platforms out there that don't pay the devs?
  If all the money should go to the devs, every game would need to be self-published, and the store would not take a cut, which isn't realistic, if you want the store or platform to have any features.
  
  I mean that I don't know of an opensource game store, let alone one that allows devs to get paid. There are stores out there where devs publish their opensource games, but the stores themselves are proprietary.
  I'm not sure how an opensource game store could be monetized. It would probably be donations. A part of those could go to the game store devs. Probably the closest we'll get to something like that is the Heroic Launcher. If they added an index of opensource games and had a distribution package (I assume it would be flatpak) and some method of payment or donation link, it could be possible.
  Anti Commercial-AI license

The only reason you would want any less than open source is if you are a greedy fuck.