Physical version of Mario Kart World will cost €90

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe MSRP at release (and also still now) was $60. Since the previous Mario Kart game they increased the price by 50%. That’s fucking insane.
Also, hot take, I don’t give a fuck about inflation; Games should cost less now than they did 20 years ago. The audience is bigger and the per unit cost is lower. You can make more money releasing the exact same game now than you could 20 years ago. They should cost less.
“Oh but ClimateChangeAnxiety, games cost more to make now!” No they don’t. You’re choosing to spend more to make them. You’re choosing to hire larger teams to make larger games with better graphics. Don’t do that. Make them the same way you did in 2010.
You have better tools now, you can make the same products you made in 2010 with less labor today. Do that. And charge less.
- I want shorter games with worse graphics and I'm not kidding
  
  I'll take longer games with even worse graphics pls
  Reject modernity, retvrn to ASCII. Your brain does the translating. I don't even see the letters. All I see is tree, zombie, plump helmet.
  
  People say this and then the shorter games with worse graphics are mocked and sell poorly
  
  I miss the PS2 era.
- The video game industry is bigger than Hollywood. Imagine if they were charging $90 for a BluRay.
  
  Step away from the lathe
- The audience is bigger and the per unit cost is lower. You can make more money releasing the exact same game now than you could 20 years ago. They should cost less.
  How're those poor executives gonna buy a third yacht? Gotta buy back stock with that excess capital to drive up prices for ~~their own stock options~~ shareholders, did you ever think of that
- “Oh but ClimateChangeAnxiety, games cost more to make now!” No they don’t. You’re choosing to spend more to make them. You’re choosing to hire larger teams to make larger games with better graphics. Don’t do that. Make them the same way you did in 2010.
  You have better tools now, you can make the same products you made in 2010 with less labor today. Do that. And charge less.
  Outside of niche games and genres, those would sell poorly. Mainstream consumers will absolutely not accept stagnation. This argument always comes up with regards to game franchises that had their heyday 10-20 years ago, and the answer is the same. A lot of those games had mechanics, progression skips, and glitches that would be considered unacceptable in the modern market. That was fine back then as the internet and YouTube were no where no where near as big as they are today, so the knowledge of game breaking progress skips, extremely overpowered builds, and glitches was contained through obscurity. You had to either phone a hotline (remember those) or go on a niche internet forum to find out about these things. That's not possible anymore, someone will post a YouTube video within 24 hours of the latest exploit and it would be all over the internet within a few days. I say this as someone who is a huge fan of those older games and still plays them today.
  The only series I've seen revive itself by making the same kind of game it made 15 years ago was Ace Combat, a niche franchise that was in a poor situation in the first place, because it tried to enter the mainstream and failed with it's Call of Duty clone with airplanes game.
  And besides that, the Switch and Switch 2 is already a constrained platform. Most flagship smartphones are more powerful than the Switch 2. Nintendo is the only party around making games under such hardware constraints. That's because ever since the GameCube, they failed to compete against PlayStation and Xbox on the processing power front. So Nintendo competes in hardware niches, motion control with the Wii, and the portable factor with the Switch. Nintendo is the company making games with the technical complexity of those made 5-10 years ago. So if they're charging more, that means the industry is in big trouble. GTA 6 $100?
  And to be completely honest, this stuff (consumer electronics and video games) has always been that expensive outside of the western/first world sphere. Cheap consumer goods in the western world is possible because of globalised neoliberal capitalism, a system that is now dead. The 2009 financial crisis was the big blow, and afterwards Obama, Merkel, Macron, Cameron, Abe, they all tried to revive this system and failed. COVID and the resulting inflation was the death knell. The Trump administration in the USA is trying to lessen the blow (for the USA) by taking direct control of the world's oceans and key points, along with tarrifs. If consumer electronics are considered expensive now, just wait for what the next decade has in store. So many potential flashpoints.
  
  I don’t agree. Maybe 2010 was a stretch, that’s still PS3/360 time, but let’s say 2013/2014 instead, early PS4 era.
  I’ve been replaying GTA V and Wolfenstein: The New Order recently and outside of some UI and QoL changes I think those games could be released today and be hugely successful.
  Obviously GTA V was, at the time, basically the new record for size and scope, but that record has been beat since and didn’t have to be.
  Now you’ve got me interested in looking at this so I’m gonna go down the list of big games released those years and see how we feel about them. I really hope this doesn’t come off as me being a dick I just got curious and wanted to see.
  
  Very few of those would do poorly now aside from the fact that their core gameplay is a bit stale now, but that’s not something that requires more labor and increasing scope, that’s just trends.
- but it costs server money to run our panopticon skynet skinchanging marketplace to sell your data
- Also the fuck you mean 90? We just jumped up from 60 to 70 a couple years ago. You can try 80 in 2030.

every game company wants to increase the base price of aaa games
Nintendo will do it first, giving everyone else cover to follow
by next year it will be accepted for aaa games to cost $80 and have a $120 deluxe edition and a $60 season pass
not surprising tbh

Lol.
Don't forget to check the emulation thread!
- I hope it's not too much of a hassle to support it, since it's the same ISA and all. Graphics and os would probably be the bigger hurdle I think
  
  Initially it's going to be people concerned about the legal action taken against Yuzu and the ??? (buyout and/or legal threat- still unclear) that the main Ryujinx devs encountered.
  I'm hoping people in less-affected regions take up the mantle and extend Ryujinx into switch 2 territory but I don't fault anyone fearing the litigious wrath of Nintendo.
- i dont think my computer will be good enough to run it :(

I hope that console will be cracked fast, those prices are completely stupid.

How did we just get to a point where we collectively allowed even digital games to cost this much
Like, that’s incomprehensible. I think the ubiquitous digital age of everything is what fried people’s brains, not Trump
The immortal science probably has a better explanation though
- Everyone made fun of horse armor. Everyone also bought horse armor.
  Also worth remembering the time that Microsoft forced Valve to charge money for new Left for Dead maps that were free on PC.
  
  It’s like when I used to play madden/nba games as teen, nearly everyone complained about getting the same game every year but gladly paid nearly 100 hundred bucks for nothing but roster upgrades
  Like this is obviously small potatoes in the scope of things but why do people behave this way about all services that objectively fuck them over
  
  Plenty of us bought it as a joke!
  "haha check it out guys, I just bought an expansion pack for a single player game that cost $2. This is gonna blow up in their faces so hard."
  And it did blow up in their faces - which is to say a minor PR dip wisped past them and then a huge pile of minimal-effort cash blew up into their faces.
  So that is to say, I'm sorry future generations. We thought it would turn out funnier than this. :(
- How did we just get to a point where we collectively allowed even digital games to cost this much
  Antipiracy policies and propaganda

“You’ll buy it anyway” and its consequences.

Pro controller with broken D-pad and no analog triggers? 90 dollars, Ned!

Lol, lmao even. And to make things even more expensive, regular microSD cards won't work with Switch 2 games, so if you run out of internal storage you'll have to get a microSD Express card, and those are more than twice as expensive. What a shitload of fuck.

Dorks on reddit already crying about people talking about piracy on the switch 2. I'm not even considering touching the thing until I can mod it, paying 80$ a game is not happening lol.

Its not on the card. Physical is just a bit of plastic for collectors.
- Right, maybe I should edit the title to metaphysical
  
  Im serious. The switch 2 might as well be digital only
  https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/68415/kw/switch%202
- Besides collecting, the actually important difference is that physical allows to resell the game, or to buy it second hand.

Emulators take my energy destroy the pikamario company

Interesting, as according to IGN the Switch 2 bundled with Mario Kart is $499, only $50 more than the Switch 2 without the bundle. They must be really pushing people to get the bundle version.
- Probably, the DK game is also cheaper than MK

Real talk I'm digging the art style on the new Donkey Kong game, and I don't even like Donkey Kong.
But yeah fuck how expensive new games have gotten.
- i love the character design but honestly it looks like a Mario Odyssey DLC
  
  I do like the idea of a Hulk Minecraft Odyssey game, it does look geniunely fun, but now I plan on pirating everything now, especially because it's super expensive and I'm tired of giving money to a company only to find out I helped fund an industry of hyperexploited Global South workers. Nintendo games are not worth $90, nor is any other game in existence, and I can no longer justify purchasing games when I have barely touched most of the games I bought because I have very little leisure time and energy.

I hope it gets just as easy to emulate every switch 2 game that is worth playing as it was for the swtich 1
Also, porque é que isto está em PT-PT?
- Also, porque é que isto está em PT-PT?
  Fuck, I didn't even notice that, my brain is gone.

Everyone forgets that there were n64 games for $70 bucks back in the 90s.
- Also adjusting for inflation, Atari games were $120.
- What made games get less expensive out of curiosity?
  
  Gotta be economics of scale and disc media. Cartridges and older media were much more expensive by comparison and had limited production runs.
  Suddenly compact disc comes along and dozens of manufacturers are printing them for pennies at a time with production lines that could scale up or down as you required.
  The readers and the tech behind them was ubiquitous and even for the added complexity, you only needed one disk reader on each console, whereas carts had a bunch of redundant hardware that had to be copied for thousands upon thousands of copies.
  Now digital copies are even cheaper, and disk drives are less space and speed efficient so print runs are scaling down and manufacturers are charging more. All the while, physical access to software has tangible downsides to publishers such as sharing games and making copies (since drives are, again, ubiquitous) so they're frontloading the price of physical games to offset this reality.
  
  I'm sure there are a lot of factors, but shifting away from cartridges was a big cost cut.
  
  Games sold for the most part. Baldur's Gate 1 sold 2.2 million copies over 5 years, Baldur's Gate 3 sold that during early access and over 10 million in less than a year. First Call of Duty sold 5 millions while the newer ones sell 30 millions. OG resident evil 2.7 million, newest resident evil 10 millions.
  Once you've made a game the cost of producing another copy is pretty much just the cost of the physical disk and shipping and distribution. Like the biggest cost is labor from developers but once it's made you can and should makes as many copies as possible.
  
  most likely RAM/ROM prices at the time (probably a natural disaster caused a shortage that screwed anyone not using CDs like PS/PS2). Also CDs were significantly cheaper even if there were no supply chain issues. I actually think most games were sold for $50 USD, it's just that the outliers that cost more are a mix of first party games and games where at least the publishers thought they were better than everyone else.

If it's this or live service free2play predatory multiplayer-only bullshit, I'll take this (not actually though because I don't have the money). I'd rather actual real games still exist that I'm priced out of than only slop that's designed specifically to fool poor people out of what little money they have.
Edit: and this should go without saying, but obviously this shouldn't be the choice one has to make and art should exist without a profit motive, capitalism needs to be abolished, ya know
- just pirate it lol
  
  Don't worry, if there is a switch 2 emulator I'll play the hell out of the next Zelda game on there

Lol and with the tariffs, it's probably at least 100 for physical if it's not accounted for it. Nintendo fans will still eat that shit up like republicans (not rich ones) when Trump literally shits on them and cycle continues.

If the switch 2 isn't a catastrophic failure, the price of games is going to skyrocket
- Wishing a very Dreamcast

This is going to sell like hotcakes because everyone and their mothers loves Mario Kart. Nintendo will shut down any emulator attempt and every game will be $80 now. Kinda a miracle that games were about $60 for a decade.
Also everyone that says they will hold out will buy it launch day.
- doomer mindset (i believe they'll go to 78.99 instead)

You can get FF7 Rebirth for $40 on sale. (And it has Chocobo racing) I think Nintendo is over reaching quite a bit and under delivering with a really mediocre upgrade with way too many nickle and dime gimmicks.
They killed emulators for this side grade and I don't see the justification for it. Crap-it-all-ism of course, but I'm not impressed by it.
- Switch Emulators aren't dead, only yuzu had got got. There are others.
  
  ryujinx got got too, nintendo sent someone to threaten the lead dev at their house in brazil
  
  Ryujinx also got got, but in a different way. They did not get sued, but Nintendo tracked down the lead dev in Brazil and threatened him into shutting the project down