Culture shock
Culture shock
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Culture shock
In a traditional German toilet, the hole into which shit disappears after we flush is right at the front, so that shit is first laid out for us to sniff and inspect for traces of illness. In the typical French toilet, on the contrary, the hole is at the back, i.e. shit is supposed to disappear as quickly as possible. Finally, the American (Anglo-Saxon) toilet presents a synthesis, a mediation between these opposites: the toilet basin is full of water, so that the shit floats in it, visible, but not to be inspected. [...] It is clear that none of these versions can be accounted for in purely utilitarian terms: each involves a certain ideological perception of how the subject should relate to excrement. Hegel was among the first to see in the geographical triad of Germany, France and England an expression of three different existential attitudes: reflective thoroughness (German), revolutionary hastiness (French), utilitarian pragmatism (English). In political terms, this triad can be read as German conservatism, French revolutionary radicalism and English liberalism. [...] The point about toilets is that they enable us not only to discern this triad in the most intimate domain, but also to identify its underlying mechanism in the three different attitudes towards excremental excess: an ambiguous contemplative fascination; a wish to get rid of it as fast as possible; a pragmatic decision to treat it as ordinary and dispose of it in an appropriate way. It is easy for an academic at a round table to claim that we live in a post-ideological universe, but the moment he visits the lavatory after the heated discussion, he is again knee-deep in ideology.
Damn an actual shit post.
Really expected something about the undertaker and throwing mankind or the like to pop up in this.
Kinda disappointed we didn't get one
As the shitter who wanted to inspect his shit, but from far away, climbed up 10 feet saying he wanted to avoid all smell, it was quickly exposed as a ruse as the undertaker rained fury down onto his fellow wrestler.
The first best time to post about the undertaker is in the first post, the second best time is when you yearn for it to exist.
Ok that is actually Slavoj Žižek. I had to check.
It's genuine.
From "The Plague of Fantasies (Wo Es War Series)"
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1219966-in-a-traditional-german-toilet-the-hole-into-which-shit
Maybe eat less fat so the poop will sink. It goes under water so it doesn’t stink. It doesn’t plop against the porcelain so nothing sticks
American toilet is best because in the typical poop there’s less stink, less mess, toilet doesn’t need to be cleaned ….. except for those days where you dump a monster load
They used to need to check for parasites, in the shattered state of misery that existed after the war. (Edit! This is wrong. TIL.) It's disgusting, but so is having parasites and not knowing it.
Pro tip for US people: Get ready! The world is not inherently a safe and stable place, and if you knock out the supports that are keeping it safe and stable for you, all kinds of really bad shit can happen.
I mean you're talking to US people who are on Lemmy. We know we're fucked
Remember the whole "Ivermectin, the dewormer, helps against Covid" thing in the US? Researchers did look at those claims and came to the completely unsurprising conclusion that, unless you have gut parasites, Ivermectin does not help with anything, including Covid. However, if you do have parasites, the Ivermectin can remove a comorbidity, which is obviously going to help with just about anything, including Covid. (Unless you have the wrong kind of parasite, and the sudden presence of rotting worm corpses throughout your body leads to septic shock…)
My takeaway from that is, modern day Americans probably have a lot more gut parasites than we used to think before Covid.
IIRC, this design predates 1945, and is not specifically about parasites but digestive health in general. (There were a lot of health fads in late 19th/early 20th-century Germany, some more quackish than others.)
In a way, this is a tribute to longevity of bathroom porcelain. Even in Germany, this is far from modern. If you look e.g. into the bathroom department of German DIY stores, you won't find this design anymore.
This may be an obscure fact, but World War 2 was not the first time that Germany was ravaged by war.
TIL. That's wild. I always had just been aware of the rumor that it was from after the war, but yes, it looks like you're right.
Can you see brain worms, if you use one of these?
republicans certainly can.
war
I had worms once and I found out only because of this type of toilet. I must have gotten them from a park where I was sitting down on the grass, without a blanket.
Sir, this is a toilet discussion 😂
So you're saying that Americans may need to develop or start using German toilets in 20-30-40 years time?
You sit on it reverse, and use the tank lid to hold your chocolate milk and comic books.
They call it deutschbombing.
That’s known as a Dutch toilet. It’s designed to allow you to inspect your movements for health concerns more easily than the standard toilet.
If you’re concerned with leaving evidence, just toss a couple pieces of tp on top of the water before you go so it’ll slide down easily when you flush.
Dutch toilet
Heh heh. The Dutch get prefixed on all the fun stuff don't they?
I would have loved to have one of these a few years ago. I have a wilderness cottage and on the lake we're on, it was affected by a family of beavers who cause beaver fever, Giardiasis. It's a small lake so it was a problem and I got infected with it. Nothing serious or long lasting but when I went to the doctor, he asked for a series of stool samples to confirm diagnosis.
The dutch toilet would have been great for that. Instead I had to perform acrobatics and weird positions and use plastic wrap and cardboard and paper to try to make a clean collection .... and there were a few accidents along the way.
I had to do a stool sample a couple years ago. One of the worst experiences of my life I'd rather just die
You could have just put a small bucket in the toilet. And take it out before you have to pee.
For kindergarten it is used often in Belgium. Teachers can controle who did buisness. If a lot off worms are on there you see it and parents are informed. Some places not only parents of the one xith the worms but the entite klass by the usual 'they are seen' letter. Plx take care off your child.
Btw No bowing down needed or sniffing. Good lord who would do that...
I fucking knew it
btw this is far from common. only seen in a fraction of old homes
Living in germany for 30+ yrs. this WAS the norm everywhere but nowadays these are no longer built usually. So in fact only in badly maintained homes.
Basically, any house that had it's bathrooms renovated in the last thirty years or so won't have those any more
In the UK we call that the "continental shelf."
wtf is germanic culture? you mean every group the romans encountered towards the north?
It means German, like from the current county of Germany
current county of Germany
County? Wtf happened? I look away for five minutes and they're back on the old HRE shit, exploding their country into hundreds of smaller ones???
I'm german and i only ever see that word used by linguists or racists
This is clearly a woman's toilet. Everyone knows women don't poop.
That is an absolute positive because it makes you able to see if you are eating healthy/if your gut is healthy
Us Germans, we take pride in our workmanship.
But look how happy it is!
FLAT DISHENGER IS HAPPY TO RINSE ALL YOUR SHIT AWAY
I LOVE these because:
Toilets are hygiene facilities and this is the most hygienic design IMO
No chance of dangling genitalia to touch the bowl
I'd say that depends on the degree of dangle
Unless you make a high enough mountain it comes up and touches you. Ask me how I know l…. Or rather, don’t.
splash (aka Poseidons kiss)
Toilet paper beforehand.
Btw, swiss here (north of germany), never seen this type in the photo. Likely more in the north.
i can't hot-swap replace the sheet of toilet paper between each turd, not to mention the waste of TP :P
I'm German and these toilets are much more common in the Netherlands in my experience.
The downsides are the smell if you don't flush quickly after and having to brush the smear off more often.
There was a German tip above that you throw down some toilet paper on the shelf to make things easier. Good to know if we ever encounter one of these.
There is a writer who has commented on toilet designs and cultures where the Germans like to study and understand the world thus have toilets like this. Where the French are more about getting rid of waste fast and efficiently much like their love for revolution. And the English are more of a diplomatic middle ground. Can't remember his name and couldn't find him from a quick search. I'm sure you can.
it will be a trip to Nessus to clean this toilet after a big one
Easier to poop knife
Apologies for the link to the other side -
https://www.originalpoopknife.com/pages/the-story-of-the-poop-knife
Greatly enhances the defecation experience. 💩/10