White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so they have enough troops to battle Russia
The aim is to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia.
I admit I'm super surprised that the conscription age is 25.
At 25 people actually have had chance to finish their education, maybe work a few years, experience real life outside school and be mostly formed individuals.
This is bad for attacking armys like the US and Russia, where brainwashing of teenagers makes it easier to get them to pull the trigger on defenseless people.
This is good for defending armys where people actually know what they fight for.
I would think it would be better for defending armies to have every able-bodied person fight the invaders. Less troops seems like a worse thing than more troops.
Drafts are barbaric.
We shouldn't accept this shit at any age in any country.
If we all just fucking stopped doing the dirty work of warmongers we would no longer have wars.
I agree with you 100%.
The worst part, is that the barbaric warmongers are absolutely conscripting and coercing their population to go kill people.
Clearly, the "Z nazis" are not to be convinced to simply stop throwing their lives away for a dictator. They actively recruit and reward people who revel in murder, and celebrate them as national heroes for their schoolchildren to look up to.
So...what are the defenders to do?
One of the factors that made the Spanish Tercios so superior was the fact that they were profesional.
True, but if the random Russian conscript stopped doing Putin's dirty work, he would be shot. That's a pretty good motivator.
It is massively fucked but... they probably should.
This war is ending in March or April one way or another. Europe/NATO have committed to supporting Ukraine. The US is almost guaranteed to actively betray them. And you can bet the EU and the like are going to be consolidating resources in fear of whatever else comes up.
So Ukraine needs to win NOW. It is probably already too late to meaningfully train those conscripts but having a military force that can act in that small window of late January is basically their only hope.
Its actually kinda amazing they are doing so well with so limited a draft and how russia has had to call in north korea. I mean even if russia wins their method to to fuck up ukraine infrastructure so then at that point what have they won and they buried themselves in the process.
Even if Russia "wins" they are going to occupy a country that will fuck with them for a half century. They'll have to genocide like Israel to actually win.
That's rich. "Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps." tho even the scraps are gonna run dry soon. Fuck biden. He could have gone down in history as a truly great leader, got everything handed to him on a silver platter, but clearly, he wishes to walk in Chamberlin's shoes.
Honestly I'm ashamed, especially as a European, we should be doing so much more. We haven't learned anything from the great wars... We're experiencing a "what if Czechoslovakia fought back" scenario, we can end it right there in Ukraine. But no...
That’s rich. “Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps
Yep, and you have every Democratic Party chickenhawk over here in the US, in total safety, cheering for it.
At that rate you might as well let NATO serve the purpose it was created for. Even tho that will.probably spark a world war.
Honestly I'm all for it; then handing the keys to Trump lmao.
Or implement a No Fly Zone and fully commit NATO forces to air defense. See Putin squirm on what to do and how to react. Makes the Putin-Trump relationship tense. Trump backing down would be seen as weak. Putin wouldn't retaliate because he wouldn't risk losing his puppet.
"keep the Americans in, the Germans down, and the Russians out"
best thing for America is to prolong this war as long as possible.
How about sending artillery shells instead? If the US is running out of artillery shells it should invest in some production capacity since it's critical for any large scale war, absolute no brainer.
Also, bring back all the Ukrainian men living as expats abroad. If you want to use your Ukrainian passport to live in another country, it’s time to earn that right. Your country needs you.
Edit: if you’re downvoting at least say why, “I’m a Russian bot” will suffice. So will, “I’m a coward.”
What a very bizarre take. "The circumstances of my birth dictate that I should die lest I be labeled a coward by an anonymous internet user calling himself 'phoneymouse'"
Sorry to all the downvoters for actually responding to this clown, part of me really wanted him downvoted into oblivion without explanation, but I think that's how you make incels more incely so I figured the morally right thing to do is explain.
It’s not a bizarre take. If your home country is at war and needs soldiers, and you’re meanwhile living comfortably abroad somewhere else with your home country’s passport, that strikes me as cowardly.
Zelensky has already called on such people to help.
