Anon prefers Frameworks over Thinkpads

Calling adblockers piracy is one i remember

Last year, the social media manager left and accused LTT of being a toxic workplace with sexual harassment. They also started to favor quantity of content over quality.

I guess the generous amount of coverage and media attention Framework gets from their videos

I guess it depends what you value. I have a Framework 13, first generation. I run Linux on it and really enjoyed putting it together myself (I ordered the DIY option).

I absolutely love their ports. You swap in the ports you want. I normally run a USB C on either side (so I can charge from either side) plus a USB A on each side (the Framework 13 has two slots each side, I think the 16 might have 3 each side?). But I also have HDMI, Display Port, and micro SD in case I need them. I can hot swap them in.

Their guides are awesome. I broke a screen and was able to order another and replace it myself following their guide. When the time comes (probably in the next year or so) I'm planning on upgrading. A bit like a desktop, since it's been a few years it means replacing the motherboard (what they call the mainboard) and RAM since technology moves on. I"m pretty sure like all laptops the CPU is fixed to the mainboard, but you can upgrade RAM or storage without replacing the whole guts (assuming same slot type). In fact you can buy without some pieces and reuse stuff you have or buy from elsewhere to save some money.

When I eventually do it I'm planning on strapping the old mainboard to the back of my TV as a HTPC (replacing the old dying laptop currently there).

There are plenty of downsides. No touchscreen. I wish the screen was a little brighter, it's not bad but could be better (might be better with later models?). I replaced the hinges with their more resistant ones but the screen still moves if I carry it around with the screen open (not sure if it's still an issue on newer models).

I really value the idea of repairability and upgradeability. When I was younger you could swap a bigger harddrive or RAM into a laptop if you had a screwdriver (and sometimes even without), and repairing other parts was also possible. These days you're more likely to find the whole thing glued together. Framework lets you do your own repairs, and has guides to walk you through every step.

There are probably more downsides, but I do love it and would buy another in a heartbeat. But if there are special things you need then carefully check. For example last I checked they did not have a full size SD card reader module available (though of course you can use a regular external one if you really need to).

Best laptop I've had so far, but they're quite expensive for their performance tier. The expectation is that you'd never replace it, so theoretically the cost pays itself off over time, but that would assume that you are able and willing to do that sort of long term maintenance.

Basically, I would only recommend it if you were a tinkerer.

If you've got the cash to spare, they just about kick the shit out of absolutely everything on the market, and are consumer repairable to boot.

I like mine a lot but as the other commenter alluded too they're pretty pricey but for the 13inch one I think it's the best laptop on the market at that size at the moment.

I love it, it's amazing.

I do have the first generation which has a battery drain issue, which has since been fixed.

I always use my hardware for a looong time, but I look forward to only having to replace the main mobo and not the screen or keyboard when I do need an upgrade.

if you're willing to pay a bit extra for futureproofing your setup, then absolutely.

I own two (work and personal) 13" framework, and they are great little machines.

Some people don't like the size (or the 3:2 ratio screen), but I think it's perfect

You shouldn't buy a framework because you will be robbing yourself of the joy of a brand new laptop every 3 to 5 years because the battery is not replaceable or the WiFi chip went bad and it is soldered in. Think of all the innovations you will be missing out on because you are just swapping parts out like some kind of animal.

Do you think this is some kind of investment or something? Computers are just disposable things that everyone can afford. Why bother fixing things? I just have my butler go grab me a new one whenever I accidentally drop it in the pool while browsing on my floating inflatable chair.

You are doing it wrong. Framework is easy to DIY, use that option and bring your own memory and storage. Only get what you need right now, you can always upgrade later when prices come down. Instead of the included charger, get a high quality third party 65W GAN charger. All that gets the cost down to about 1600 with barely any downside. Don't buy a modular device without using the modularity to your advantage.

I think you might need more storage.

Wow thats a both pricey and monstrous specs (IDK about the proc but seems like a beast too!).

What's the 3 x 1TB cards? SSDs ??

Be me, using my 2011 MBP in 2024

What are you going to use 64GB of RAM for?

Such a bummer we have to worry about hardware profiling. Seemingly a nearly intractable problem.

Is trackpoint the official name for the thinkpad clitoris?

You're being downvoted, but you're not wrong. At least in the case of the Ethernet module, which most people aren't going to leave plugged in most of the time.

The utility in the ports being modular is more so in the initial configurability at purchase rather than swapping them out by the user on a regular basis.

But having a laptop with 4/6 USB-C is pretty nice. Add on the fact that my dongles don't dangle and it is even cooler.

So your criticism is them offering an Ethernet port add-on that fits into their modular system but is slightly larger than the rest?

Is that right?

I mean, I only got the ethernet module in case something happens to my wifi card and I have to wait on the replacement to arrive, and I like to use them during install just because.

But it's nice to have it be an option along with microSD, SD, 3.5mm, HDMI, USBC, USBA, 1tb or 250gb storage, and Display Ports, that instead of a dongle fits nicely in the body like a GBC cart (the Ethernet has the rumble pak though). And on top of that, this is neat.

Electrically? Yes.

Mechanically the expansion card has higher durability because the force on the USBC is minimized. It's also convinient to have build in "carry slots", so for your standard loadout you don't need to bring a bag with accessories. Compare it to the dongle storage in a wireless mouse.

This is like saying that a penis and a "vagina" are the same thing because they are both sex organs that you pee from... You're not technically wrong but most people would agree there is a pretty big difference between the two.