[RANT] I pay $70/mo for this privilege

In Switzerland you get unlimited 10 Gbit/s for 50 bucks.

I hate you, congrats!
In Canada we have to give our firstborn to a telecommunication monopoly for somewhat OK internet.
- Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don't worry, they'll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.
- I pay 90 ish Canadian pesos for 1gb/1gb for Bell fibre. It's not too bad depending on your location, though that price is still too high. I'm at least making good use of it. 12tb of total transfers this month.
what the hell
- WTF? 25gbps? Dang we really do have shitty internet in the States.
- And /48 IPv6 subnet included! As it should be!
Is it actually 10Gbit/s or just marketing? And how's the latency?
- The latency for 1Gbit/s is amazing, and i seem to get that speed. But i really don't have the hardware for more anyways.
Yeah, but those are metric bits so they are a little bit smaller.
And for 80$/month you can get 25Gbps!
🔫 hand over the internet bill
Omg

Data caps on home internet services should be illegal. They should also be much higher on mobile, but that's a whole other topic.

I have 940/940 Unlimited FTTH for $93.45(Canadian).

And France gets 5Gbps for €30 per month or 8Gbps for €40 per month. I’m in the US now and really miss free.fr as my ISP
- I'm suddenly more motivated to do my French lessons on Duolingo now.
- What average consumer has hardware that's actually capable of using more than 1Gbps?
Data caps on home internet services should be illegal. They should also be much higher on mobile, but that’s a whole other topic.
I'm not convinced mobile deserves to have caps at all, either!
As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to limit the amount of data transfer except in times of congestion, and I also don't see any reason the amount of data transferred during un-congested times should have any bearing on who gets throttled.
You're way overpaying. I pay $40 for 1.5 Gbps with Bell FTTH. Give them a call and say it's too expensive and see what they can do for you. Or tell them Rogers (if they're in your area) offered you 1.5gbps for $60 and ask if they can beat that.
As for mobile, you should look at new plans. $39 gets you 20 GB $50 gets you 40 GB. Seems like plenty of data imo https://www.koodomobile.com/en/rate-plans?INTCMP=KM_HDD_2023_Plans_RatePlans_40gbfor45_ROC_MBSK
Best time to get a mobile plan is Black Friday, should be even better deals by then.

Home internet data caps WERE a thing of the past when Obama appointed Tom Wheeler as FCC chairman, who then pushed rulings to classify ISPs as a public utility and started enforcing net neutrality. Companies that didn't play ball started getting fined until they fell in line. Being a former executive for a major ISP, he was very familiar with the anti-competitive practices and underhanded tricks those companies had been using for years; and he used those practices against them to finally make some pro-consumer progress for internet access in the US.

Then, Trump came in and put Ajit Pai in charge of the FCC (no joke, my phone kept auto correcting his name to Shit Pie). Anyways, Shit Pie tore down those rulings and undid all those years of progress as part of the Trump administration's anti-Obama initiative. Even though it was proven time and again that what he did was directly against public opinion, and that ISPs were flooding the public commentary with bot posts(some even made by dead people); Shit Pie continued to meme about himself and drink from an obnoxiously large Reese's coffee mug while doing so. At this point, every provider of internet services has added back data caps in the US, and they have continued to increase their prices to maintain that 99.9% profit margin. They've also locked down more areas to prevent municipal broadband services from forming, and they're even pushing for legislation to prevent them from ever happening.

The current administration has done absolutely nothing. In fact, they've been so unremarkable, I have no idea who is in charge of the FCC, and I don't feel like looking it up.

In Thailand I'm getting 400Mbps upload and download with unlimited data.

It costs about 300฿/mo ≈ $8.7/mo

'Murica #1!!! (In high internet prices)
But you also get paid less
- ~~Median income is $23k in Thailand. $31k in US. It definitely doesn't make up the difference.~~
  Edit: Used Personal income for US and Household for Thailand. It actually doesn't bring the gap significantly closer.
- Although I agree that people get paid less here, I highly doubt that it costs an ISP in the US 8x more to transfer data than an ISP in Thailand.
  I'm not really trying to argue that Thai internet is cheap, it's that internet elsewhere is exorbitantly expensive.
- What kind of rube works in the same country they live in? I met a lot of WFH workers when I visited Thailand, and not a single one of them was working for a company in Thailand.

Australia looks like an interesting case. Iknow that in some countries, ISPs have to provide service to both urban and rural customers at the same price, which means that urban customers actually subsidize people living in rural areas. In some other cases, the gouvernements help pay for this.
Isn't there a project in Australia that the federal gouvernement is subsidizing the role-out of fibre?
- Idk but pricing in Australia is fucked. The fibre network isn't that large to begin with afaik, and even if you do have fibre you have to pay an arm and a leg for good speeds.
  E.g. I pay like $70 USD a month for 100/40.
  Symmetric gigabit costs several hundred a month, they're not intended for residential customers.

- My first (fast) internet connection was 1 Mbit.
  We had 1gb to download per month. This cap disappeared when more competitors showed up though (i had that cap around ... 2001)
  I havnt seen a data cap for internet connections since. I am not aware of any either. Except for mobile phones. Though, they also have unlimited data for those , if you want. (I have. Just so i never have to worry about it ever again)
- I had a friend years ago that had a cap, but that was literally the only one I've heard of in my life here (Sweden)

Yeah, the ISP cartels sucks. I've been stuck paying $170/mo for uncapped 1000/35mbps connection.

Thankfully, before the end of the year, a local ISP is moving into my area. They offer uncapped symmetrical gigabit, for $75/mo... I'll be saving $95/mo for BETTER service.

The longstanding ISP cartels should seriously be punished for the abuse of their market positions and failure to appropriately use government funding they've been given.

1000/35mbps
That download/upload dichotomy should be illegal in and of itself!
- Yeah that's abysmal, but it's a result of the fact that docsis has always been an asymmetrical standard in which upload speeds are lower than download. I recently moved house and my old ISP was fiber to prem, we had symmetrical gigabit. New house is cable ISP that only offers 1000/50... While docsis 3.0 supports up to 200mbps up. Bunch of greedy bastards.
Oh they appropriated it all right, straight into their yachts and mansions.
Same boat here… and then the “default cap” is nothing. Between work and family, we hit the data cap of 1.25TB within three weeks.
Any place I can find more info about the “end of the year” timeframe you mentioned? A new ISP is also rolling in my area, but their site has been vague on time.
The main street into our house currently has it available, but our actual address not yet… driving me a little crazy.
Hope the new one is available for you soon.

$40 for 2 Gbps unlimited in Singapore. Caps on home broadband are frankly nonsensical.

I'm paying $40 CAD/mo for 1.5 Gbps down and 940 Mbps up here in Canada. Unlimited bandwidth, of course.

I'm reading all the comments and I'm shocked... In France, with uncapped access and 1Gbps down/600Mbps up (theorical) I pay 40€/mo (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive). And it's definitely not the cheapest provider.

That's insane !

1Gbps down/700Mbps up here, 35€/month (another french provider), no data caps - for 5 bucks/month more I could have 5Gbps down/1Gbps up, but... well, my home network is still using 1Gbps switches - but all the cabling was built with 10Gbps in mind.
Data caps are pure robbery. We run a non-profit ISP/hosting platform and a non-profit IXP with friends in West France, the only thing you pay (and the only thing end users should have to pay) is goddamn bandwidth.
Interesting that they give you more up than down. Are you on a server plan or something like that?
Edit: lol just noticed what community this is, server plan makes more sense now.
- I messed up, that's the opposite actually ^^
(30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive)
Sounds like a Liberty Global owned telecom company... they love their annual price increases ugh, but they are usually the fastest option in most areas

In Germany we pay lots of money for 5G data volume. For me I got 20 Gigs for about 40 bucks, this is mostly Not a thing in the rest of Europe. But data plans on landlines are really dumb.

- Well mobile data is very different. With fibre optic you can generally keep provisioning more cables and a single cable already carries a huge amount already.
  Radio has an absolute efficiency limit for the bandwidth of a signal and we're pretty damn close to that now.
  5g uses wider bandwidth channels, with more cells closer together and uses things like beamforming. But there's still always going to be an upper limit that is considerably lower than fibre.
  This is why they likely want to discourage 5g becoming a full alternative to wired, because there's just not the capacity to do it on the same scale.
- If you really think about it, caps on mobile data are also fairly stupid
  Mobile is a shared medium and can only support a certain amount of bandwidth per phone mast (in a certain area). A mobile phone network heavily relies on most users not using their data plans most of the time.
- Belgium has them
- In France at least I doubt it.
  The only time I remember caps on landlines was when 56k modem were still the norm. Once ADSL was rolled out there was pretty much no caps anymore.
  I think the fact that we had some healthy competition for landlines from the get go in my country meant the ISPs couldn't get that much greedy and put caps in place. So it never ended being common where I live.
  And when it was old school modems, well you were already paying for the phone communications anyway when connected to the internet so it wasn't really unlimited anyway.
- Data caps do exist in Europe, but they're generally reserved for ultra cheap data plans. Something like €5 for 100mbit speeds. So you get a decent connection, but limited in traffic instead. Which makes sense.
- Agreed. In the past you would pay for calling and text messages and data was often unlimited at the higher tiers, but since nobody pays extra for calling and texting anymore, they’re now charging for data. Luckily they can’t charge extra for EU roaming anymore.
  Data caps on landlines is something that I haven’t seen for a very long time in my EU country. The last time I had a subscription with a data cap must have been with a 56k modem, if at all. Cable and DSL might have had fair use policies back in the day (or maybe they still do, who knows), but no hard cap. Or at least not that I can remember.
  Internet nowadays is way too important to have data caps, especially at home. 5G should definitely be next. Differentiate in speed all you want, but ditch the caps.
- While it's stupid that ISPs are using their monopolies to screw consumers, the concept of data caps is not as stupid as you might think.
  You're not just paying for the connection between you and the ISP, but also all the other data links that get your internet traffic to its destination. For example, those cables across the ocean are owned third parties and they charge money for every byte that goes through. It wouldn't be unreasonable for ISPs to pass that cost to users.
  Furthermore, most links are overprovisioned in order to keep costs down. For example, if you assume that users only use 10% of their bandwidth on average, that means you can fit 10x as many people on a connection (or maybe 8x to account for peaks). This does mean that users should be discouraged from using their full bandwidth for long durations, otherwise the network operators can't overprovision as much and have to invest more in infrastructure.
In Denmark, I pay _{19€ (}$21) for 1000GB of mobile data (they call it 'unlimited', but the small text says they may cut you off at 1000GB). Of course, I rarely use more than 50GB a month on my phone.
- weint auf deutsch
  I'm moving to another provider next month to increase from 8GB@€30 to 15GB€25... Those are per month...
- This is what I am talking about … Most countries in Europe just gives you kinda unlimited data plans… look at this crap
  I rarely need mobile data because I work from home but if my landline has an interruption I can barely work 1 or 2 days with that if I tweak data consumption on my work laptop.
Check out Vodafone if you’re younger than 28. I’m paying 22€/month with their Gigakombi for unlimited 5G.
- Way beyond that ;)
Pretty much a thing in NL and afaik also BE.
source: am Dutch.
T mobile NL, 5G capped at 22GB. Cost: 20 euro.
35 euro in NL wl give you t mobile unlimited which is capped at 15 GB per day. Other providers charge more or less the same.
@home internet 1up/down GB fiber 45 euro. No datacap.

I was very close to closing on a house in rural midwest but I checked isp's and every one available had caps so I just stayed away.

It's why you just get a business line, usually just slightly more expensive, and you get 99.9% SLA uptime and unlimited cap.
- You shouldn't need a business line to get reliable, fast, unlimited internet.
- And a static IP, and the ability to do whatever you want with the fiber
Great internet is also a deciding factor for us while looking for our next rural midwest home! I use the FCC Broadband Map and availability searches on local ISP websites to confirm available speeds and no data caps. We passed on some great homes because of slow/no internet or data caps.
Our current rural midwest home has 940x35 w/o data caps from a cable-based (DOCSIS 3.1) ISP for $34.99/month. I'm sure they will increase the price after 12 months. When the time comes, I'll call them again to complain and get a decent price again.
Good choice. I live in the rural midwest and the only thing that'll reach (even though we're in the flatlands) is a WISP we pay $170 a month for 12/6. No data caps, but it's slow as shit. At least it's not satellite so we can still play games online fairly reliably but damn.

lol uncapped 500mbps fiber (actual fiber directly to your house) connection is 10-12$/month in Ukraine

Looking at all you guys with your gigabit connections, meanwhile I'm in Aus and lucky to get 30 down and 15 up

- https://0xerr0r.github.io/blocky/v0.21/ This? I'll have to give it a try later. Pihole has a cache also though, does this do something different?
- Local DNS-based adblocker. I prefer blocky, but others prefer Pi-Hole. Blocky has a feature to pre-cache commonly used domains, so additional internet performance. :)
  Blocky is written in Go, which I understand is an interpreted language program, versus a compiled language program. Please correct me on this if I'm wrong.
  If I'm right, then what kind of performance issues if any do you see using Blocky? I asked this assuming that an interpreted program will run slower than a compiled one.
Not eligible yet for the fttp upgrade? Hang in there mate.
I got upgraded from fttn to fttp at the start of this year.
Wish i had 15 up, im getting 40 down 3 up. They started putting fiber down my street but not active yet, cant wait to go to 1 gig

I live in the UK and currently have copper cable at about 60mbps for £60 per month. I thought what I had was bad because I have a friend who gets 1gbps for £30 a few miles away.

I'm in the US and get 1Gbps for about £30, because my city forced ISPs to sell portions of their networks to third party competitions to break up monopolies.
- Crazy that they make you pay in pounds in the US though.
Where the hell in the UK are you? I'm in the North and pay £26 for 60mbps but get more like 70 due to how close I am to the street cabinet though I haven't even got copper cable here, just crappy aluminium that is so old I think Alexander Graham Bell himself fitted them.
- I'm in the north-west but I'm limited to BT because nobody else has cables down yet. A different company claims to be fitting FttP round here in a few months though.
- I'm in leeds and pay £30 a month for 1gig with virgin. You sould move house. Get better broadband.
Where on earth are you and who with to be fleeced that much?
- In the north-west. BT currently have a local monopoly so they can charge what they want

Where I am, there was only one provider of internet for a long time, and I was paying for a plan that's more or less what you have right now. Then another company came in and laid fiber, and both companies slashed prices and now I get over double my download speed, no data cap, and something crazy like 50x the old upload speed all for like 20 dollars less a month! Before I switched to the fiber company, the first company even increased my download speeds without increasing the price! Anyone who says competition doesn't change things is crazy.

Competition is beautiful ain’t it?

Lol Germany here checking in 500/50 for 29.99

In Brazil I pay 20 USD for 500mb. There are plans in my area that sells 1gb for 30 USD. Thay can't put data caps due to legislation, only on mobile data (which I pay 6usd for 20gb cap, 5g)

I believe some have data caps even for landline internet, they get around legislation saying you get slower Internet after you reach the cap but yeah, I pay like 25 USD for 600 mps down and 300 mps up
- They cannot be enforced here on wired connections since 2016 even if you signed a contract, thankfully.
Preciso mudar meu país do viver ...

I had uncapped 500/50Mbps for €10 but now I moved to a village and I'm stuck with 100/10Mbps for €20 :(

I've got 1000/1000 fiber for €32, which I think is a pretty good deal in the Netherlands at the moment. I will go back to 100/100 for probably a similar amount after my contract is up as 1000/1000 is simply overkill for our use case. But who knows, maybe I'll find another deal.
- I’ve got 1000/1000 fiber for €32
  you lucky bastards. higher qol and better broadband? hope your nipples freeze off, I'm envious.
You're lucky, I'm on 25/2Mbps and I pay £32 per month for the privilege.
- Lmao rural USA checking in, 20Mbps down for $200 a month. Kill me
- I'm slightly baffled by all this. I'm scheduled to get my line upgraded to be able to handle 100mbps in 2025 and I'm currently able to get 48mbps which costs me about USD55/mo. I only got the upgrade from 8mbps in 2019 (stupid conservative govt). While I'm looking forward to the better connection, I don't really find a problem with 50 at the moment. I work from home, I stream multiple instances of media, I torrent things sometimes. I think I'm on an cap of 1tb but tbh I'd have to check if that's what it still is, I haven't looked for a long time.

Well, the internet companies have successfully bribed politicians to avoid competition. This is just the normal result of everyday corruption.

Shit dude, I pay €20 for synchronous 1Gb/s.

Scandinavia or east Asia?

Yea while we were in alaska we were capped. we were in fairbanks as well, which isn't that rural. I lived in the high desert of california. drive 20 min from hesperia to phelan and you could probably get meth easier than consistent internet.

Time to establish IP over Meth Dealers then
Gotta love the GCI monopoly in Alaska. So glad I left that god forbidden State

About to move to a new house, pretty much had to harass Verizon for a week to add the address to their database so I could move our service.

$70/mo for 1Gig up/down with no cap. The alternative was Xfinity.

I was not going to Xfinity.

I have Comcast now and it's okay in my area (no data cap scam in my area), but probably only because Verizon is available across the street. I had Verizon before I moved and it was faster but they completely forgot that they needed to implement IPv6.
- Xfinity also lied and told me there wouldn’t be a cancellation fee since I wasn’t under contract (so I thought) and I was moving to an area that they didn’t serve.
  Turns out when I had called in a year prior with a question they “renewed” the contract without my approval and there WAS a cancellation fee. But never told me. Never sent me a bill.
  Didn’t know anything until I got a collections letter for $400. Called them up and they had the notes on my account from the three different reps I spoke to over the phone to confirm there was no fee. Because there were so many conflicting reports online I wanted to be sure. They did not give a fuck and pretty much admitted their reps lied.
  So fuck Xfinity.

OP, check out the websites about grants ISPs are getting to put fiber in rural areas and see if your area is on the list somewhere (I would try and link you to some, but I'm on mobile and for some reason I have a hell of a time finding those sites while on mobile). You can see below what I've had to deal with for about 20 years, until my area finally got covered by one of those grants a few months ago. I am super rural - like, I am literally surrounded by nationally protected forest and nothing else; it'snot a place I thought would ever be included in those grant locations. It was, though, and I now have Gigabyte internet with no cap, with VOIP, for $74.98 a month. If I'm not using WiFi, I get an actual gig of download speed. If I'm on wifi, it's usually between 600-900MB.

Up until recently, we paid Centurylink about $150 a month for two lines into the house. Each line maxed out at 0.75MB download speed and 0.23 MB upload speed. We needed two lines to even be able to function. Almost 20 years of this, with no other options besides Hughesnet. We tried them for a little while; their equipment cost a fortune, it was about$150 a month, the speed was nearly as bad and they had a 200MB A MONTH CAP. We had to turn off images for websites in order to not go over the cap. Previous to 2004, I lived in a very rural part of NY. We had high speed internet for $69 a month, no cap. I can't remember the speed, but I remember that it took 3 minutes to download a full sized movie. 20 YEARS AGO the internet was better, and cheaper!

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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AP	WiFi Access Point
DNS	Domain Name Service/System
IP	Internet Protocol
IoT	Internet of Things for device controllers
Plex	Brand of media server package
VPN	Virtual Private Network

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Mediacom is the worst, data caps and low speeds for high prices, straight highway robbery. I'm lucky to have a local ISP with no data caps and a mostly reasonable price, cheaper than Mediacom at least. And soon to be fiber when they make it over to my neighborhood. They're currently in the process of running fiber to every neighborhood in my city.

Oh boy, you're still lucky with your data cap 🙂

Mine's ~90 Mbps down, ~35 Mbps up, 10 GB open access + 8 GB site-specific of your choice, you reload it weekly for $2.

There's also a 1 GB "Metaverse Go" bandwidth as well, I have no idea which sites are included in that because when I download updates for my Fedora laptop and download apps from Flathub, it uses that bandwidth.

Our local fiber (1000/1000) is truly unlimited and just had a price decrease from $120 to $100. Never had an ISP do that before!

Maybe you should organise a community run ISP instead?

They're quite common where I live, although I don't use one myself. I still only pay 400sek for unlimited 500/500.

$70? In Australia I pay $85 for 75/20 unlimited.

In Sweden I pay $23 for 100/100 unlimited. My phone even has 100 down unlimited for $30/month
- Fellow Swede here; may I please ask what mobile operator you use? I pay around $25 for 16 gigabytes from Vimla

just out of interest .. somebody here on satellite? I am interested to know the prices for sat services out there?

Paying less than 10$ a month for mobile data with unlimited 4g (5g unlimited in this plan for the testing phase). Living in a third world country. Wifi connection is unlimited at 100mbps speed at almost the same amount.

This is almost started price in Canada

In my rural town where the cottage is, XPloreNet finally brought fiber. I used to pay $140 for SpaceX (and because of the trees, I got at most 100 mbs of throughput). Now, with XPloreNet, I get consistent 100 mbs and my bill has been reduced to $75 per month. We pay too much for our Internet.
- The sad thing is you only need one company to enter the market with aggressive prices so the others are forced to react (and admit they were abusing their clients).
  That’s what happened in France with Free, and now everyone can have 15 to 30€ good internet. Caps are something never heard of. Later they did the same thing with mobile networks and now most of Europe have cheap unlimited no roaming etc. Zero company went bankrupt, they just had to learn how to reduce their margins.
  As a result I have a 10Gb/10Gb fiber with tv for 40$
Is it? I get 1.5Gbps for $80/mo no caps and I checked my tiny hometown and they have similar prices. This is in Ontario around Ottawa

1000/300 unlimited FTTH for ~20$ in hungary, however this company (digi) was killed by the government, and bought under price by a company (4ig) which is very close to the goverment, and the stateparty, and they did 2 subscription price ups, so 2 years ago it was about 10$... We have "bent capitalism" here which resembles to communism...

"Allowance" what the fuck? Aren't they infantilising their customers?

That's the technical term for monthly usage limits.

I get unlimited 10Gbps symmetric fiber for $40/month. One of the only affordable things in the San Francisco Bay Area, lol

what the actual fuck, thats so cheap
- Probably lives near datacenter
2Gbps symmetric fiber, $70/month, flyover state. Could go up to 5Gbps for another like $20. No data caps. I may never move again.
- I get half that speed from a plan that costs more, though at least I don't have data caps and it's better than other plans I've seen
Off topic: I see that there is "9 more replies" and I am unable to expand the thread... could someone please offer guidance?
- I see them!
  Here's a screenshot:
H O W Can I buy your home please? It would probably be cheaper to do that then keep paying for internet
- Nice houses are over $1.8 million here. Expensive area, but at least the internet is a good deal.
You must have Sonic.net like I do. I was so glad the home I bought was in their coverage area. Fuck Comcast.
- Yes!! They're the best. I switched to Sonic as soon as they rolled out in my area. Availability (or future availability) of Sonic was one of the things I looked for when buying a house.

My parents in rural Washington pay $70/month for 10Mbps down. I'm not sure the ISP bothers with a cap.

I have CenturyLink 940/940 here in Seattle with no cap for $65. The alternative is Wave which has a cap and you have to deal with introductory price bullshit.

I'm stuck with Comcast 1200/30 with a 1.2TB cap for $100/mo, it's this or DSL
Down in Oregon, I get either 100mbps through CenturyLink for $65 or 1.2gbps down/30mbps up from Comcast for $130 (with the $30 extra to remove the data cap). I would kill for a symmettical connection even if it were only 500/500.
neither will give me fiber; wave offered adsl :(
stuck with comcast, which I despise.

In the same exact boat as you. We have Mediacom or one DSL. They gave me a really good deal for the first year on my 1gig, but after that it's going to be about $140 a month. To make matters worse too, the wiring in my apartment building is REALLY old, so the service cuts out randomly sometimes (All tenants in the building are on splitters sharing one cable with the apartment across the hall.) And of course the landlord said that Mediacom was trying to trick me into spending more money and he would absolutely not run new cable. Internet in rural areas of the US is a total shit show. My connection is somewhat stable now, but I can't wait for something else to come to my area.

And yes I looked into Starlink, my building has a strict NO PUTTING UP ANTENNA policy.

And yes I looked into Mobile Carrier Routers and the fastest I can get is 50mb download with a data cap.

I feel your problem on a spiritual level.

You mentioned the US, so please look up the FCC rules regarding limiting tenants from putting up antennas and dishes. It might be illegal for them to restrict that.

Northeast US here. Fairly healthy competition in my area, the fiber at my home is about $50/mo

Denmark: 1gbps up/down with static IPv4 and IPv6 address for 105dkk ($15).

I can reliably get the offered speeds and the connection is unlimited. Pretty happy with that.

Where we lived in Florida we has Spectrum and they didn’t even offer Ethernet. Apartment only had WiFi with router access…

- Yeah, this doesn't sound right. I've never seen a modem without an ethernet port. I've had everything from Verizon dsl in Tampa years ago to various cable providers including twc and now spectrum and as I said, every modem had an ethernet port. You can also add your own router even if it ends up adding an extra nat layer.
- Was in Kissimmee. We were forced into the apartment complex internet plan and it only included WiFi. No Ethernet ports in the apartment just a WiFi unit where you had to approve MAC addresses for access.
  Super frustrating. Ended up buying a router, that would bridge the WiFi and offer Ethernet to my Pi and desktop.
Central Florida has AT&T fiber now. I pay $108 a month for 2.5gbit up and down. 1gbit is $80 IIRC.

Hot damn, where can I sign up?!?! I get the same except for a 1.2 TB data cap and pay $130/mo. Xfinity in the Denver metro area. Finally getting fiber this winter, symmetrical gigabit for $90.

$140 for 30 meg that's usually about 8, unless the neighbors are using it, then I'm lucky to get a 480p stream...

The FCC is still to my knowledge taking public comments about data caps:

https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests

May be worth people here commenting about how they are ridiculous

Damn. Our symmetrical 500 mbps plan, with no caps, is USD 14 per month

I'm lucky - I'm in a Midwest town as well (between 1500 to 3000 people) in the US. A couple of years ago, fiber got installed. I'm getting about 900Mbps down and 99 up, no data cap, for $84/month. Before that I also had Mediacom, and the data cap was infuriating. So glad I could switch!

What country are you in the midwest of? That really sucks, I emphasise :-(

I know they have a lot of data aps like that in developing nations still, like those in Africa, but generally in the western world we moved past those around 15 years ago at least, thank the gods. I've not even had a date limit on my phone since 2014, so handy for tethering the laptop when I'm on the move!

I'm in the UK, for reference :-)

Mediacom is an American telco.
The Western world, try anywhere. I'm from Eastern Europe and I haven't had a data cap even on my mobile network for a while.
I've never even seen even offers of data capped wire connections in person.
- Give me your sim card please

Sweden: 50 Usd 1gb up/down fiber directly pulled to a media converter located in my house. Not like I had, living in UK, fiber to a telecom box on the street and then Lan cable to my property...

The UK has two modes of "fibre" FTTC fibre to cabinet. Then copper to your property. Or FTTP, fibre to premise, which is as you describe fibre right to your property.

I pay about $80/mo and have a 1200 GB cap.

It used to be $50 a month with no cap. But "that plan is no longer available" in my area.

About 63€/68$ for 100/10mbps speed and a 150GB data cap. Including a cable tv subscription.

That's in Europe.

Where? That's horrific.
- Belgium. The company is owned and ran by Liberty Global.
  My mother has been connected to fiber recently (which she doesn't need at all...advised against it, but you know sales pushing...) She gets an eye-watering 500/500mbps no cap connection for 78$ (including tv and fixed phone)
  I'm more 'rural' so minimum 5 years before any fiber is passing by...
  Could get a speed bump to 300/20mbps and 'no cap' (fair use policy) for about 10$ extra.
You get a much better deal if you didn't include TV subscription which no one needs these days anyway because you can stream everything.
- Yeah I could live without the cable subscription, but my wife cannot. Same plan with internet only would be about 36.50$

2000/2000 Mbit fiber without a cap for $95/mo. in Maine, US.

This does feel a bit surreal though as prior to this my options were 3/.5 Mbit DSL for $75/mo. (bonding wasn't an option, no plans by ISP to upgrade), then 25/10 Mbit fixed wireless for $95 /mo. from a local provider (which worked when it felt like it and then was undergoing "maintenance" for weeks at a time making it unusable), then paying Spectrum a $5500+ ransom to run Cable down my driveway and then ultimately pay $115/mo. for 300/20 Mbit. Spectrum didn't have a cap due to the Charter -> TWC acquisition consent decree but I'm sure it was coming after that expired.

When fiber came to town everything else suddenly got cheaper but screw them, they kept raising the rates and fees when there wasn't any meaningful competition. Fidium didn't even charge me an install fee and I'm not under a contract. ¯(ツ)_/¯

Dont worry, the market will simply regulate itself.

I live in the southwest. They're garbage. It's them or CenturyLink on, wait for it, COPPER WIRE!

You have a datacap? Damn

Same boat here, I have what seems to be a legacy plan now for a 1G/50M with 6 or maybe 8 TB (it changed during the plauge years and I don't recall if they dropped it back down) for about $150/month. The only other options around are wireless or a 80/10 dsl through century link that interestingly enough has no cap. Supposedly century link is working on fiber sometime that will give a dymetric uncapped option for about $70 though.

Meanwhile, in the town of Moticello less than 50 miles away they have two high end fiber nets because the city decided to build their own and the local ISP decided it better do so to in order to not be extinct, after of course trying to sue the city saying they can't do that.

Holy crap everything you were saying was hitting word chords in me, so relatable, then you said Monticello. I just moved to Earl Park, was going to have to decide between Century Link and satellite, then Mainstream came through like a week before I closed on the house and installed cheap fast fiber.
- If I where to move that would certainly be a factor in the future. I've been here since 2006 when the fastest offering was a lot less than it is now. Mostly I'd just like to get the speeds more balanced, I don't really need 1G down but with all the self hosting I've taken to in the last few years it would be nice to boost the upload and their next tier down at 500/50 cuts the cap in at least half because '"f'ck you, we can".
The CenturyLink fiber plan is pretty nice, me and my brother in law are on it and it runs as advertised and I've had maybe 2 outages in the 3 years I've had it, unlike my previous provider where it would be like 1 per quarter

I'm paying 12$ a month for 300 mbps symmetric in India... Though not fair to directly convert into dollars

Edit: no caps on bandwidth

Yikes. I pay $80 a month for 1Gbps up and down with no data cap. It's amazing what happens when one company doesn't have a monopoly in an area. Prices go down and quality of service goes up.

*edit: replied to wrong comment

I was shocked when my friend from India told me that for 400 Mbps up and down, he pays only $14/month. Limit: 3.3 TB per month.

- How would you even hit a 3.3 TB limit a month in normal usage? AAA games these days are hitting 100 GB but how many of those are you going to download in a month? Streaming Netflix 24/7 will also not get you there, unless maybe it was 4k content the whole time. Maybe if you're pirating uncompressed Blu-ray rips?

I have almost the same experience. I live in a small town in the Midwest, and the only ISP that goes to my house is Comcast/Xfinity. There's a 1.2TB cap no matter what level you pay for, though they give you the option of paying an extra $30/month for unlimited. I'm really growing to appreciate our local ISP, which provides symmetrical FTTH, unlimited data, a static (or at least rarely changing) IP, and generally non-predatory business practices, all for a lower price than Xfinity. Unfortunately, my house is on the fringe of the town, so they don't reach all the way here and I'm stuck with Xfinity.

Comcast unlimited data is an extra 50 for my area.
Evil bastards. I make sure to get my money's worth though

I had been on Mediacom since I moved back to my hometown in 2003. In the beginning it was a nice service other than terrible phone support. Occasionally you'd need to call if the modem took a shit, wiring issues, billing issues, or provision new hardware. I don't know when, let's say 2013, they introduced data caps, tiered plans, and overage fees. Let me just say, fuck you Mediacom, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you! Every year in December and January we'd go over because the kids would get new games for Christmas. They slowed us down, limited usage, and charged us more. Mediacom fucking sucks!

Thankfully, we were lucky to get fiber wired up around town last summer. Many small towns are now running fiber in this area and I couldn't be happier. Service has been exceptional, I pay less than Mediacom ($85/mo), and no bullshit charges. Fast internet that just works. Check out Conxxus and see if they are near where you're living. Good luck!

If it makes you feel better, I has a similar cap when I lived in Silicon Valley

No fiber available to my house, so I'm stuck with paying ~$85 for 50/2. Or switching ISPs and briefly getting a chair rate for faster speeds, but adding in a data cap and less reliability.

Remember the net neutrality regulations that douchebag scrapped then opted to make a shitty YouTube video about? I do.

Where I live in Australia, 1 hour out of Sydney, I would pay that for 1/3 the data at 1/3 the speed. Went with starlink instead.

Have you looked at Starlink or T-Mobile 5g home internet?

Do you get a public IP with Starlink?

I know i'm privileged paying 70 PLN (~17 USD) for symmetrical gigabit link, but holy shit man, that picture hurts.

I live in México and pay 1119 MXN (≈ 65 USD) per month for 600/100. It also includes TV channels and a phone line. I'm satisfied with my ISP. They've never had an outage and stuff just works!

India - $8/mo, symmetrical 150Mbps, unlimited.

Meanwhile I'm paying $150 for less than that.

Rural area in Latvia, LTE home internet 100 megs down 30 up, unlimited, 19.99€

Same here, no data cap but upload speeds of 10Mbps is absolutely brutal.

Bud, I pay $60/mo for 30 down, 1.5 up 🙃

Build your own ISP :)

This comes off as flippant, but it's viable at least on a small scale as a WISP. Point to point wifi has become both good and cheap, with a pair of devices from companies like tplink or ubiquiti running around $200.
You can "shoot" wifi over air for miles now with near pinpoint accuracy. If your area has a tall landmark(water tower, grain elevator, etc) or is willing to let you put up a tower, you can trench line to just that location and load it up with WAPS to shoot wifi to customers in the surrounding area. You can also often use this customers as repeaters to widen the coversge.
For a real life example, some folk living in the islands off the coast of Washington started their own from scratch.
- Also theoretically you can co-pay with your neighbour. Both of you are unlikely to utilize full channel at the same time anyway.
Except big ISPs will sue your ass
- How?

Not that you will read 300+comments, but cancel and go with starlink. They probably call you back and offer you an uncapped plan :D

I pay 150 a month for 20/10mbps (actual is more like 10/5) with a 1.5tb cap. I would stab a baby to get yours.

I have 1gbps symmetrical for €17.95 in the Netherlands.

100Mbps uncapped for £26 a month. Pretty happy with that.

Italy - 35€/mo, 1Gbps down, 300Mbps up, unlimited. Goes down at least once a month though, openfiber sucks

I've lived In rural areas in the U.S. all my life. Internet is always atrocious because the only ones that provide services out those ways know that they have no competition.

Luckily, I've had a great company come in and now have fantastic internet after they set up the infrastructure, but I still think about those days I had to use Windstream.

Thats rough, i live in what the rural small town folks that live around us call a “that liberal shit hole” while they are here shopping and working. I have unlimited municipal Fiber internet that just got upgraded for free!

Let’s be real here, for a gas station Casey’s has damn good pizza.

Here in Sri Lanka I'm paying ~20 USD for FTTH 100 Mbps. Monthly bandwidth is limited to 155 GB lol.

Yeah Comcast has been doing it for a while.

That's a really precise data limit.

I have to have Cox Business just so I don't have to pay $50 /mo extra for unlimited Internet. It's a scam.

Consider yourself lucky, I pay around 100 euros for a 100Mb wich does not even reach 40 in download at times. (Italy)

Germany calling. Shot internet here. On my village (close to Ulm) telecom will give you a maximum 16mb dsl which in reality is around 8 down for 40€ a month.

Installed Starlink and get 150 to 250 down and 30 up for 65 a month.

I pay $60 for 600d 10u And I'm in a "major" east coast city. I have access to ONE broadband provider. The only difference is I currently don't have a hard cap, although it I started using more than 1-2TB a month they'd drop me or find a way to force me into a higher tier.

In the Netherlands we complain a lot about gas prizes, costs of groceries. et cetera.

But regarding internet we have come a long way. Fiber is available to approximately 50% of the households currently (and they are expanding fast)

Mobile data is really seen as a commodity. 5G with unlimited data is €25/€30 a month (depending on the carrier). Although 5G in the Netherlands is not yet up to speed (3,5GHz will become available soon), the realistic speeds achieved are more then decent. (Benefit of having a crowded, flat country)

In the Netherlands we complain a lot ~~about gas prizes, costs of groceries. et cetera.~~
Sorry, moest ik even fixen :)
On topic, I'm in NZ and we tend to be behind in things, but Internet here is awesome. NZ$95 for unlimited 900/500mbps. They are starting to roll out 2.5 gbps.
- Funny, because it's true

I pay more for 200/20, but no limits. That sucks!

Lobbying captured local states' law (by ISP's) and so some places can petition to have their own internet at cities and have, but these laws sometimes prevent that. But we should still try to petition to get a city based internet. It's worth it.

I have 1gb/s synchronous fiber through my local small town. $80 on my city utilities bill. Oh, and no caps. Muni fiber ftw
- I hate you 🥺

lmfao its 40usd for 50/20 in australia

Holy fucking shit dude... Sorry for you but in a weird way I'm a bit relieved to see this being the case in the US as well. The village I grew up in (Germany) still has a price of ~50€ for speeds of 50-100MBit/s However, there is at least no data cap in that case. My 1000 Mbit/s contract was capped to 1TB/month as well until four years ago (40€/month). I really hope this improves for all of us soon!

I don't think we've had data limits for wired internet since moving on from dial-up/ISDN. But I'm still waiting for unmetered mobile data. Here all the supposedly competing providers are advertising 100 GB as unlimited. I'd rather pay for a reasonable specific speed with no metering, than have a connection that is so fast it can use up its monthly quota in an hour.

I'm with the only uncapped service in my area, it's $90/mo for 10mb/s and it's unreliable as all fuck.

EU - 30 USD 400/200 MBbs fiber no data cap here :)

I pay about $ 25 for unlimited 300 MBit/s, I also get 50 GB of data in all of the EU, 100 MB world wide roaming and 100 minutes world wide calling.

Oh, and it’s on my phone.

I'd be so screwed on that plan. According to my router, I've downloaded 5311 GB in the last 30 days, and uploaded 399 GB. Sure doesn't feel like it in hindsight, but some family members are on YouTube all day every day, others constantly downloading new games on Steam, and my Plex media Server and *arr apps just chews through data.

300Mbps symmetric, no cap, for $55.32 (Northern California).

I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.

From an Aussie where our Internet is somewhat considered a "public utility" (NBNCo), it's not the best. I'm paying $130/mo (Aussie bucks) for 250/100 fibre.

Our NTDs are capable of gigabit symmetrical, but thanks to our Lord and Saviour, Rupert Murdoch, it was essentially limited speed wise and the network was built with ridiculous complexity, such as the CVC constraints (Connectivity Virtual Circuit), which means ISPs have to buy additional bandwidth and hope and pray that every user doesn't max out their connections at the same time.

For example, the POI (Point of Interconnect) I'm connected to has a total of 1.5Gbps with the ISP I'm with. Based on their stats which they make public to customers, I'm guesstimating that there's approximately ~50 other households in my POI area connected with this ISP. We all have to share that bandwidth otherwise it slows to a crawl.

ETA: I'm purely talking about the FTTP network here, not the other part of the mess that is NBNCo and FTTN/C/B, Fixed Wireless, Satellite & HFC... the NBN is a complete mess.

Man, the US is weird sometimes. I don't think I've ever had a data cap on my home internet.

Aussie chiming in 50/20mbps for $90/m. I wanted 50mbps upload but it would have bumped the cost to $130/m.

Friend of mine lives in bumfuck nowhere here in the US (like, no access to running water if it goes without raining for a few weeks - that kind of rural) and has gigabit up/down for $60 somehow. Meanwhile, there's 2 or 3 ISPs in my area who will gladly take $60 for half that speed and dog shit upload. I pay for both a resi and biz line and the latter is the same speed for $15 more. Criminal.

I have mediacom as well, but in a larger city of the midwest. They have datacaps here too, and i was paying about $100 for exactly this same plan up until a couple years ago. They started upgrading our speeds/caps because a new fiber company (metronet) is building in the area. Now i'm on 1 gbps down and a 4 TB cap. I still plan to switch to metronet when they finally light up my area, as its cheaper for the same speeds (plus no data caps)

20€ a month for 200/20 on cable with unlimited data. Im expecting 500/200 after I move to fiber this month and hope <30€. Damn some of you pay a lot 😮

I’m paying $115/mo for 1G down 30M up, no data cap.

I WAS paying $150 for the same until I called and bitched that new subscribers were getting the same for $89. So, still getting fucked, but at least they’re using lube now.

There’s fiber literally on the next street over from me. Come the fuck on guys - fiber in my neighborhood. Let’s fucking gooooooooooo already. You’ve been teasing me for years. Quit pulling my hair and fuck me already damn.

I am very thankful that I do not live in the United States. Even in Canada where telecommunications services are notoriously expensive, data caps on cellphone plans are rapidly becoming a thing of the past. Carriers like Freedom Mobile will simply throttle your speed instead of charging you a boatload of money once you pass your monthly data "limit".

pay $180/month for 1gbit down/100mbit up and it is unlimited... It would be $130 for 1.75TB, but I wanted unlimited and that is an extra $50/month

Sorry for bumping this, but why do you have such a big difference in upload and download speeds? Here in Norway the difference is 1-2 mbps. Why 900mbps?
- So unless you live in an area with fiber, asymmetrical speeds are pretty typical… I’m not sure if it is because it’s all coax so there are infrastructure limitations? But it’s actually gotten faster because 6 months ago my upload was only 30 mbit/s.
  Once fiber is in my area I’ll switch to that, but symmetrical will add more cost…but of course it will lol

I'll jump on the specs bandwagon. I really can't complain much about Spectrum or AT&T. I currently have symmetrical gigabit with no cap for $80 a month. I just signed up for "straight forward pricing" which is supposed to lock in my rate for as long as I have it.

I'm outside of Charlotte, NC.

How many ISP choices do you have?
I’m outside of Milwaukee. Was paying Spectrum $75 for 300/20 (I think), no cap. Only other option is DSL. They finally buried fiber in the back yard earlier this summer, but haven’t turned it on yet. Got a great deal for T-mobile home internet, $25 for about 300/75, no cap.
- Just checked on the FCC Broadband Map, and I saw options for AT&T (symmetrical gigabit), Spectrum (1000, 35 wtf), HughesNet (25,3), Starlink (50,10), Verizon (300,10) and I think T-Mobile even though they weren't listed.

I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…

For the past 15 years I've had a data cap on home internet, but never had a data cap prior to that.

That's led me to believe the exact opposite of your observation; unlimited data is a thing of the past and data caps are a thing of the present and future.

I pay 40€ /month for 20 Down & 10 Mbit/s but unlimited Traffic...

This makes me seethe and rage and turns my piss to vinegar.

Look into fixed wireless or 4G/5G home internet. Fixed wireless is sometimes exactly what you need in spots like that. It is not 4G or 5G, sometimes it is just long range WiFi or other lax spectrum.

Thanks god I have unlimited 150/50 4g internet at home for around 42€ per month. This month we downloaded around 5.5 TB of data. Also small town, countryside, no stop lights, no businesses other than bars and shops. There is only one stop light in whole region. And whole region is getting fiber optic. We had DSL, but speeds were terrible.

Wow, that's pretty terrible. I can't remember the last time I've seen data caps on home Internet (edit: there were some a while ago, but those were basically cellular-at-home for places that are hard to reach with copper or optic fibre); must've been early 2000s. Right now I get 600 Mbps d/400 Mbps u at home and 10 Mbps d/u cellular (no data cap) for a total of under 30 EUR/mo.

Datacaps? On Home PC? I don't even datacaps on my phone and I leave in bumfuck nowhere North Carolina

I think the issue is that these service providers are more than capable of providing "unlimited" data, but choose not to because they can make a lot more when people inevitably go over their limit. The salt on the wound is the fact that ISPs usually have no competition. They usually have a monopoly on the area in which they operate.
Where I live, we have unlimited data that only gets throttled if you use a truly absurd amount (like if you're constantly pirating large amounts of 4k movies or something). No caps or unexpected fees. Overall, I always felt like I had it pretty good, and I still think that...mostly.
The funny part is that my ISP had competition move to town recently. I kid you not, the week before the competition officially started up their service, my ISP sent a letter saying they were doubling my Internet speed for no extra charge.
They were trying to show how awesome they were but really it was the biggest slap in the fucking face. You're telling me you were overcharging me that much for years?
Another issue is that advertising, which you never asked for, makes up part of your monthly data usage, as do routine and unavoidable downloads like security updates, video game patches, etc.
There isn't much difference at all. Neither should have a cap.
Data moving across a network doesn't have any per-unit cost to the people operating the network. Whether you use 5TB or 5GB doesn't impact the bottom line of the ISPs at all.
The only justification for a data cap would be if they've overprovisioned their network and sold too many people plans that are too fast for their network to support, so they need to disincentivise people from actually using it. Even then that's pretty shaky justification.

jesus. in germany i currently have 1gbit docsis for 40€, and a local company will install FTTH in my flat til end of this year

Yikes! I pay a couple bucks more for uncapped gigabit. I'm fortunate in that there's two competing providers in my area that aren't in cahoots (that I can tell.) I much prefer the more expensive one and was able to get them to match the other's price.

My wife has been dropping hints she wants to move to another state though and I'm low key dreading dealing with a new ISP/losing my current plan.

As many others have already given their specs, I'll add mine: 1/1G fibre 55€/month, no data cap in rural Finland. And I can get the advertised speeds whenever (plus a bit more due to how they do the limit, but that's heavily load dependent). 10G plan is available too, but I don't have hardware or real need for that, so I don't know about pricing, but I'd quess less than a 100€/m. Only dynamic IPv4, I've been waiting for them to upgrade to IPv6 so I could have some real world experience with it.

I live in a large city and as of last year I have two choices for high speed home internet. I was paying $70/month for 300/20 with cable, now I have fiber and pay $70/month for 300/300. At least the first year was cheaper as a new customer and the faster upload speed is helpful for work from home.

I pay $50 / mo for 100 down, 5 up 1.25tb cap. I feel ya. It's another $50 just for no cap.

Im considering 5g home Internet because it's cheaper than cable, 50 vs 80

I forget how lucky I am to live in a large city sometimes. 2Gb down, 1gbps up, $50 all in.

That's rough... No idea how I'd cope with that. I don't think I've ever had a datacap on any residential connection here in the Netherlands. Currently got 1gbps fiber up and down for 50 euros I think.

TV however is still a huge scam. I just want to watch football but have to have a billion other channels too I think. (Ima see if I can change this now lol)

U should come to australia. Our internet is worse than most 3rd world countries. And u need a business plan to get symmetric upload thats so slow i doubt u could hit a 1tb cap if u tried.

I'm in a very small town, we only have a bar. $100/mo for 500mb/s up and down, at least I actually get that though. Rarely is it less, but they also hooked us all up with fiber when they ran the fiber thru the center of the city. Price is also largely because they are literally the only internet provider unless you go with satellite -- which I was considering but with the weather here...probably not ideal.

Check how much business internet would cost, there's usually no data caps.

Casey’s

you're in the sticks when your quicky-mart 7/11 option is Casey’s lol. Missouri?

If it's any slight consolation, I pay ridiculous prices for comcast 100mb in Seattle, and my only other option is shitty adsl that's even worse garbage.

Wrong, but better than what we get in the UK

£30 - 70 down 20 up. No caps UK here.

Who are you with? I get 150 symmetrical for £25 with Swish.

Yikes. Only 20mbps upload (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

Perhaps unpopular opinion but I don’t know why people are saying they want ISPs to be treated like a utility. Most utilities charge based on how much you use… I don’t have a data cap at the moment but I’d much rather have a cap than a charge per GB used…

For most utilities (water, electricity), there's a relatively linear relationship between the tangible value provided (energy used, water dispensed) and the cost to provide it (coal burned, water sourced/treated). Even for wind- or hydro-powered electricity, the amount that everybody uses has a proportional amount of wear on the system and consequent required maintenance.
But not so much for ISPs. Instead, you're basically paying for a "fictional" amount (speed) of a non-tangible product. Granted, there is a linear relationship to the amount of electricity the ISP uses to provide each bit, but it's negligible.
Instead, what you're paying for with internet is essentially to recoup the fixed costs of the provider's equipment. They do need to upgrade every so often to accommodate more capacity and faster speeds, but this is proportional to speeds provided and not data volume used.

I pay 95 for 400/12 and 1.2 TB. Count your blessings.

That's not what that's about. It's about DATA CAPS. OP needs to pay for 1,5TB. It's not about speed

Data caps are everywhere, I'm not sure why you'd think they're a thing of the past. I believe the scenario is more like "you're lucky if your plan doesn't have caps" instead.

1.5T/month is uncomfortable though. One of my VPN services has a 1T/month softcap (speed drastically reduces after that) and it's usually fine for my household, but one person going crazy on YouTube rabbit holes or us binging something on Netflix, pushes that limit fast.

Terrible scenario, but unfortunately I think there's too much money involved for the right thing to be done and this kind of service getting the treatment it should have.

No Datacaps for landline in Europe yeah.. In many EU countries you can also buy a mobile flat without caps for like 40€.
The US just doesn't have a good consumer lobby.
- The problem with the US is even if we had a consumer lobby, which I don’t think we do, we would be overrun by the big corporate lobbies in a matter of seconds.
  The only people that get listened to by our government are those who have the big money to control members of congress. We are supposed to have a government for the people by the people but instead we have a government for the rich by the rich.
  Those of us that don’t have billions of dollars don’t have a voice, even though they claim to listen, they don’t unless you can line their pockets with a few $100,000 thousand dollars a month.
  Our government official don’t care about us, they care about money and how to get more of it.
- Sorry if this is nitpicking but as far as I know, there is no such thing as unlimited mobile data plans.
  In most contracts they will say that you have to use reasonably the data plan and you cannot for example constantly max out your connection. Like 24/7 constant max bandwidth used.
  In most case it doesn't really matter but I really don't like the fact that ISPs get to say it's unlimited when it definitely isn't.
  It's unlimited*
  Some restrictions may apply.
TF you smoking? I pay 25€/ mo. For gigabit connection with no data caps. The US is getting hosed because it’s a corporatocracy and the ISPs have acted like robber barons for the past three decades. Don’t normalize this blatantly anti consumer bullshit.
- To add to this, my country has been rolling out 10Gbps U/D FTTH for 35€/Month for a while, and even rural areas usually have at least 500Mbps U/D, all of it uncapped.
  Gotta say, more than a decade ago ISP's tried to implement data caps on home internet, and it failed spectacularly.
  I weep for our American brethren, may they find a way out of the hole they're in...

Why not starlink? At that point I think it would be a nice investment.

It's datacapped at 1TB before you get throttled, and the performance is always degrading, and you have to buy from an asshole.
I'd do it if I was desperate, but it'd essentially have to be the only option available.