Teacher who resigned after her OnlyFans page was discovered says new employer fired her for violating social media policy
Teacher who resigned after her OnlyFans page was discovered says new employer fired her for violating social media policy
oops I dropped these
https://www.wsj.com/articles/yes-students-do-learn-more-from-attractive-teachers-1472223974
how clumsy of me, sorry y'all.
The attractive teachers must have really been frustrated by me. I only cared if you were a cool teacher. Most of the time, the attractive teachers were not the cool teachers.
I might be a stray data point, but I had a smoking hot partial differential equations professor who dressed for the weather during the summer semester. Didn't learn a damn thing.
For sure it's different when kids would just find out and start downloading her naked photos. Then parents would find out and be insanely mad that kids are viewing their teacher's naked photos. It's different case than secretly fantasizing about your pretty teacher lol
They're already watching porn and making nudes of their friends using photo editing software and AI tools. At this point I don't quite understand what does it matter if they're somehow able to find their teacher's OnlyFans pictures.
I know how the parents feel. That's stupid article didn't include a link. Journalistic malpractice is what it is
Oh how embarrassing..
I bet this is true for adults too! Lol
My hottest teacher was just for homeroom. Full package. Leather skirt, leopard print satin top, high heels...
I love how the employer admitted to not checking her references or googling her beforehand.
Can't really blame her when they didn't do their due diligence.
Yeah, the ones who hired a teacher without doing any sort of a background check are the ones who really should be fired. Imagine if they hired someone who was actually dangerous to their students.
The new employer wasn't a school.
You only check references after there's a problem, everyone knows that
When I was in high school, my 11th grade biology teacher was let go after 1 week because he didn't have a teaching license
I'm a senior manager at a pretty big company.
That's something she does on the side, and if anyone in the workplace gave her shit, I would tell them to leave it the fuck alone unless they wanted me to bring HR in to the convo.
Can people please not be cunts? (I'm an Aussie...)
Edit: People need to disconnect things. Say there's leaked nudes (or even just public nudes) of a work colleague. Let's take it to they used to do porn. Yep, that's something they did. That has zero impact on their role now or who they are in their role. They don't deserve shame, or ridicule.
You know this chick:
Those expressions were her reaction to taste testing some kombucha on a video or stream. Those screenshots were grabbed by the internet and used in a similar format to the Drake meme, "Nah that's bad" "actually I like that
She worked at a bank. They fired her for it.
"We need to protect our innocent company from these scumbag workers at all cost!"
I assume, they don't exist to protect workers' rights.
Stop giving people shit about their "hobbies".
HR where I work is excessively paranoid about terminations. They will want a paper trail of performance failures or argue to death that "then they'll be able to argue they were really fired for a protected reason. Get me a paper trail of performance failures".
Not saying our HR is worker-friendly. They're just VERY lawsuit-averse.
Flip-side, I worked at a company that fired anyone for any reason and just kept cash aside for wrongful termination suits. And they had a HUGE HR team, whose job it was to keep the employers happy.
If the actions of an employee will reflect on a company, why shouldnt they have the right to decide to work with someone that doesnt do those things on the side?
If an america employee went on the news yelling racist things (on the side), shouldnt they company have the right not to work with them?
Yes - and the company should then pay the employee for the termination unrelated in any way to their performance on the job. Keep in mind, the better solution would be to have racism be actually illegal in 'murica, so the employer fires that employee after they explicitly break the law.
Why is it always corporations that should get the slack. Aren't you and me more important, our rights? You're not a megacorp, why do you take their side? They're not on yours!
Maybe we should pay our teachers so they don't have to do more work when they're done with work so they can do stuff like not starve to death or have a roof over their head?
I am not from US but is the same thing too. Teachers are paid so bad that doing videochat is actually good than just steal or something else.
We should. We should also stop punishing sex workers. Victorian morality needs to die already, this ain't Plymouth Rock.
The puritanism predates Victoria, but yes.
After her OnlyFans became public, Coppage told KMOV that she made $1 million on the platform. Her yearly teaching salary was $42,000, she said at the time.
Brb, going to go make an OF rq
Enjoy sitting at the shite end of the Pareto income distribution.
OF is a marketing gig, if you don't have a way to push your content and leverage network effects, you're not going to make any money.
The revenue from an only fans is the customer count × avg customer lifetime × avg subscription price, customer count is a function of your exposure to potential customers, and lifetime is a function of your content frequency and originality (I assume if you upload the same content types the fan base gets bored).
So, if you want a successful OF, you need to first focus on exposure, but the algos on most social media reward the haves, so your first issue is getting into people's feeds. The best way to do this is targeting niches, areas with lower volume or high demand for content.
Then you need to keep your audience by engaging with them but pushing new concepts, which will present it's own challenges. There's very much a quick copy culture on these networks that you'll probably have to emulate to keep on the front of the engagement curve, and expect anything you do that success to be quickly replicated ad infinitum until it doesn't anymore. I think this is a losing battle over time.
You can also offer whale services like "girlfriend experiences" to try and lock in big spenders, but first you need them on a hook.
It's not just snap some pics and you're good.
You'll need a school full of students and probably some news sites to run an article about you in order to make those kinds of profits.
They claim that I violated their social media policy, but will not respond to me with how I violated it.
This second part is what is going to get her a nice piece of damages. What was the policy? Was it spelled out when she started? Is Only Fans actually social media?
The answers are: There's a vague one that certainly doesn't cover the use of OF; she wasn't given it; and no, she's an actress.
Only if she can prove the firing was related to being a member of a protected class. Unless it was not at will employment but I’m not aware of any private sector jobs like that anymore.
Edit: people keep telling me I’m wrong so that may be true.
No, they gave a reason and that reason isn't covered under their policy, so she should still be covered.
If they let her go without a reason, then she would have to prove discrimination. But if they say "You violated our social media policy" and refuse to show how, and she can prove that nothing she did was on violation of the policy as written, then that is a clear case of unlawful termination.
Lots of teachers are part of a union. There's no mention of it in the article that I see, but union workers tend to be a little bit more protected than at will workers.
As said below, they gave a reason. It has to be consistent with the actual policy and that policy has to be applied fairly and universally. If someone is making it up as they go, then they did it wrong.
I mean, you can do all the things on only fans you do on Instagram so I would say it's definitely at best social media, at worst porn platform
Hey, "A" for effort, but maybe next time you could turn in a revised and polished thought rather than the first thing that burbles to the surface?
Does the employment policy specifically make this distinction? Probably not. I can guarantee that they never thought of OF when the policy was written and OF may not have even existed back then.
If someone were willing to pay for pics of my ballsack and I made a lot more selling those pics than I make teaching in high school I would still miss my less-paying job
i have news for you.
If it's that pictures of my ball sack will earn me more than my current job, I'll need to go back in time and tell me how sooner!
Wait, gay onlyfans pays bucks?
Do they pay extra for non-gays doing gay stuff? I'd do gay non-gay stuff for money. It's just dicks, oh no, so what if it gets stuck up my ass. I tried that as a kid, it's not impossible!
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I would like to attend your classes.
i can't click this link in my country. based if true.
…”They claim that I violated their social media policy, but will not respond to me with how I violated it.”
KMOV reached out to Compass Health, but the company has not yet responded.
Yes, I read that in the article
We need a hero, to link this OF
It feels like she knew she would get fired from this new job, leverage it nationwide articles and get even more subscribers to her OF page. She even references the teaching gig in her bio, and the new job in her latest posts.
Maybe. It doesn't matter. Jobs shouldn't be able to fire you because you get naked on the Internet, which requires you to pay to even see in the first place.
Edit:
@meep_launcher@lemm.ee made a great point about teacher/student dynamics and I can agree with that in most circumstances (e.g. the students are underage). I still think it's ridiculous for her second, non-teaching job to fire her.
I'm a teacher and they specifically have guidelines on what you're behavior online should be. Keeping your socials clean. Making sure my interactions with students are kept professional.
The fact is that kids these days are nosey and great researchers. Having an only fans as an educator has a huge risk of students discovering it, and will ultimately change the relationship between student and teacher from a student/ teacher relationship to a viewer/ pornstar one.
Eh I disagree with some jobs. Teachers are supposed to be role models to students and keep certain things private.
The problem is we aren't paying teachers adequately for that. It reminds me of essential workers during the pandemic. If we need these people so badly, or we're asking them to be role models and be private about certain things, then we should be paying them much, much more.
Gonna get roasted for this, but why?
I think it's pretty reasonable for an employer to fire someone for posting racist things on the Internet. I think we can all agree on that. Actions outside of work can have an effect on work and so I think it's reasonable to make employment decisions based on how the employer acts outside of work. I would argue racism is morally wrong and sex work is not, but I don't think it's possible to define employment laws in a way that fits a universal moral code.
I love the protected classes we have for employment now: age, gender, color, religion, etc. I think these protections are valuable to employees everyone, and I think they make sense because they don't affect your ability to do the job. I having "does sex work on the side" on this list makes much less sense.
I think many, maybe even most, jobs wouldn't be affected by an employee having an onlyfans, and so in my opinion someone shouldn't get fired for it most of the time. But I think there's a clear line between the protected classes and people who post on onlyfans.
Her job doesn't get to decide what she does in her off time. Of course on the streets of the real world they definitely try and succeed. I'm saying that they should not.
God i just want the world to change for the better. This is dumb
Sexy librarian. My favorite.
Her teacher salary was $42k. She made a million off OF. If she puts that into index fund she can replace her teacher salary at 4% WR.
Oh! Thats awful! What sites did she post her nudes to? Like which specific ones?
Edit: this is a joke. Im devastated that i need to say this. How is it no obvious? Please do not send me links to her porn.
Is there a reason to downvote me other than thinking im being serious? This is a serious subject, she should not be fired for having a hobby. I 100% believe that.
I was just making a joke.
LMAO
Ok but, where are the leaks?
If there was karma on this place then I'm about to yeet it into oblivion but nevertheless. Teachers are not paid nearly enough but doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all. I won't bother explaining why because it's obvious.
To me this reads as:
< preemptive justification for saying something controversial and/or indefensible >
< controversial statement with no justification or reasoning >
"Not going to explain because it's obvious"
Probably not how it was intended, but that's some weak sauce
doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all
Then we'll see fewer and fewer teachers. And more and more sex workers.
that's actually what I'm saying as well. The pay for teachers and the conditions they are working in are absolutely horrendous. I can't imagine working with a bunch of, lets face it, zoo animals who have a near free rule because the school and the parents back them all the time and that 5 days a week for hours. but at the end of the day you can't expect to post porn online and then be suprised that you're getting fired. The reality is that teachers are still held to high standards while received little to no pay and students are not. in a perfect world I expect both of them to be held to high standards.
I won't bother explaining why because
it's obviousarticulating my feelings on this would reveal me to be sexist and regressive.
So I'm just curious as to who exactly reported her because presumably they don't look at that kind of content and when they did find that content they were appalled and they just sort of stumbled onto it?
Please do bother, because it honestly isn't obvious to me.
Next morning in class:
Billy you get full marks today, your dad gave a generous tip last night.
Thanks I practically explosed laughing and everyone in the waiting room starred at me.
OnlyFans and high school teacher absolutely do not mix. There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly educate students in that environment.
If only we paid them a living wage so they wouldn’t have to seek additional income to survive.
If only we paid them a living wage
ST. LOUIS...Her yearly teaching salary was $42,000
In 2016, the median household income in the City of St. Louis was $42,000. source (expand the dropdown: What does this indicator measure')
She made as much teaching as the median household income in the area by herself (completely ignoring the rest of her household). Since when is that not a living wage?
Her students aren't old enough to view OnlyFans, so why would it make any difference?
But 12th grade students may already be adults.
Anyway, why does it matter? She's not teaching how to make OF content.
Haha, yea, that's how the Internet works.
Yes because “I’m 18!” Really works, (or most parental controls.)
I was 8 or 9 when I discovered my dad’s password book. Kids can and will find a way.
There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly educate students in that environment.
The high school teacher probably wasn't using OnlyFans as a teaching platform. Those were two completely different environments.
Attendance 100%
Most adults are perfectly capable of siloing different parts of their lives, especially between work and personal lives.
But I can see you're probably not part of most adults and therefore it MUST be impossible for everyone else...
Elaborate as to why you feel this way.
Right, teachers should not be human and exist on any sexual level. They should be automatons devoting their every second of life to their students for 42K a year.
Give me a break.
Exactly! They shouldn't even have children. What if the students start questioning how they made them? /s
If you just read the article, though, you will see that her new job has nothing to do with teaching. She was fired for "violating the social media policy" after five days, she says they won't elaborate further.
She says she was also up-front about her side gig. But how exactly do you put your OnlyFans experience on your resume? "Internet Personality"?
Dude.
Several years from now you'll be able to tell your phone to make a sexy video of your school librarian, a toaster, and a maths equation. How will anyone get anything done?
As a society we need to realise that producing questionable material is not shameful, and consider I stead that accessing compromising content concerning the school librarian may be appropriate.
Who will these people with sexy school librarians my school library was like 75 years old and an absolute crank.
could you elaborate? because I don't understand how you're making these connections...
Aww, look! It's special. 🥲
What about female anatomy 101?
The issue is how parents would react to it more than the students caring themselves.
OnlyFans and high school teacher absolutely do not mix. There is a 0% chance one will be able to properly [indoctrinate] students in that environment.
There, fixed that for you!
How ever did you manage to crack the code? You must be very smart to have figured out educate means indoctrinate. Now the CIA is gonna hunt you down to prevent the information from spreading.
Holy fucking Christ Lemmy is full of some of the stupidest people.
This was clearly a joke, people. About how you wouldn't be able to educate ON OnlyFans.
For fucks sake.
The important piece of this to me is this: She made $1 mil on OnlyFans and $42k/year as a teacher. She wants to be a teacher despite making plenty of money from other sources. This tells me that unless you have other evidence of impropriety she's someone we want in the classroom. It also reinforces my stance, along with plenty of other studies that have been performed, that a universal basic income won't stop people from working.
Pay people better and we'll just keep working because we like it. It's part of being human, but we shouldn't be suffering to survive at the same time.
$1 million = 23.8 years of teaching at $42K/yr.
Add in that id you don't blow it all, you get to count the interest income. A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year. That's actually more than the teaching job pay.
Brb selling pictures of my balloon knot.
In all seriousness though, I don't blame her one bit
People probably will choose to work on different things though. It's harder to exploit a workforce that isn't as desperate. That's the real reason why UBI isn't happening.
I quit a job I really liked for one I didn't like nearly as much because I hardly made more than minimum wage
If I won the lottery I would go back to that first job and work for free.
What job would anyone do for free, apart from unpaid sex work?
Bonk
The last thing a public school wants is a teacher with actual understanding of sex teaching a sex education class.
My school had a sex ed class although I can't honestly remember anything that we were told in it. But basically if students managed to get to the end of formal education without getting pregnant that was generally considered to be a success.
They seriously had no real interest in educating students at all.
While I'd trust this person to do a good job better than the teachers hired by Catholic schools, being an Only Fans performer doesn't really qualify you for that.
Ditto. Ive met countless older people now who kept up doing the work they were passionate about, even if it in time became a hobby that they did at a loss. People like to work. They like to see the fruits of their labor take shape before their eyes, and they like feeling like theyre doing something that benefits someone other than themselves.
As it stands, the rules we live by only reward the infinite pursuit of profit, but that doesnt align with the values people find themselves holding whether they like it or not.
Case in point to your last part:
I was fired at the beginning of the year. I had sufficient funds I coulda retired if I wanted to. I’m not quite 40.
It’s been 2 months and I am so fucking bored I got a job. I didn’t go get a part time job to fill my time, I got a job in my field continuing to work at “my level” because it fulfills me.
I’m now able to do what I want because I want to rather than because of some existential need. My work product is WAY better.
A bit offtopic, but I came to the same conclusion during a somewhat philosophical discussion with a friend who expressed skepticism with the increased automation aspect of the world, and we extrapolated this into a hypothetical world where almost everything was automated.
His concern was that one day humanity could find themselves dependent on an automated system over which they had no control.
My response, being a bit of a techno-optimist, was that:
I'm the kind of guy who makes the little gears spin so that the cog can turn, and I derive entertainment from reviving broken complex systems, and I wouldn't want it any other way
I completely agree. I tinker and change my PC to parts because it's fun. Did it make a difference to performance? Kinda. Was the effort put forth because of performance alone? No. People like making Legos and just put them on a shelf. There are consumer products where the customer is paying to do the work themselves for little gain above the fun of the journey. Why wouldn't it expand to many other areas? And if there's not enough people willing to do something, make it worth their while to fix it, but that's already a problem and UBI isn't the big smoking gun people claim it to be.
There are valid criticisms to UBI (usually specific to each implementation), but "lazy workers" will never be one of them.
We ARE dependent on systems over which we have no control, since a LONG time, the hell are you on about? One cog in this machinery busts, and you die, and you won't be able to do a thing about it.
Edit: jesus I was drunk when I wrote this shit, sorry
I can see a problem with kids in her school starting to see her as a sex worker rather than a teacher.
Plus you can visit and talk to her for free! Not lol, lol.
You can't retire on $1m net worth. That's not even a house in lots of areas.
It definitely helps. But giving up my career for $1m would be a very bad investment.
Average investment returns are (conservatively) 8% per year, with a safe draw down being 4% per year. Which means she can safely withdraw $40,000/yr indefinitely without her investment decreasing in value over the long run.
Easily enough to retire in a decent cost of living area if she wishes, or work a small side job to boost her income to support a higher cost of living.
Sort of the joke in it all. You can't retire on $42k/year either
Yeah, except she can go makeinimum wage working full time for benefits and call it a day. You can live on minimum wage if you also have a mil in the bank to start. One door closed but a bunch of others opened. She can do that job you want that you don't do because it doesn't pay much.
You can't pay for groceries with your net worth but given million bucks I'd retire immediately. That amount of money invested to the stock market pays around 50 - 70k interests every year and you get to keep the million.
Someone else calculated that $1 million is about 30 years of the teaching salary. So you cannot retire on a career either.
If I were forced to choose I'd take the $1 million up front over a low-paying career and let it grow in the market while I found other work to avoid using it. $1 million up front over $1.3 million across 40-some years is a very good investment. Consider the decreased value of future money.
I have no idea why you're being down voted. You're absolutely right. You can't live on back interest from $1M, so you have to invest it, and while some years you'll make more than 10% average invested in the stock market, over 10 years you'll average 8% because some years you'll not only make no returns but you'll lose some of your investment. Which means if you're living off those returns, some years you'll have to eat into those investments, slowly eating down the money you have making money for you. You're paying taxes on those returns, and if you're living off them, they're considered short term investments and you pay a higher tax rate - because you pay taxes on returns on your investments.
Rich people get richer because they have other income and can leave the money and the returns untouched; they aren't living on the returns until they have far more money invested than $1M.
People down-voting you are morons.
If you get a modest 5% return on that mil that's $50k per year, which is more than her teaching salary for doing nothing.