Is anyone else tired of the doom posts on Lemmy?
When scrolling Lemmy (compared to reddit in the past), all I see is doom and gloom / news. I don't see interesting conversations or comments to read.
Occasionally I'll find something, and I've been contributing more, but there's just so much doom that it fills my feed.
I've had to unsubscribe from many communities bc it's just doom news reposts..
Is it just me?
Where are the creators? The cosplayers? The rube goldberg machines made out of post it's and shot glasses? The "I draw pictures by playing notes on a piano" people? The people porting Doom to a yoga mat? The "I made a car out of thrown out Crocs" people? The "I built a treadmill for my friend's overweight insects" people?
This is the stupidest shit I could think of but people are out there making and doing weirder/amazing-er things... Where are those people in Lemmy? I browse All and it's just politics, linux, and shit posts.
You've gotta start somewhere.
Consider that with both Reddit and Digg, their initial communities where mostly technical, and with time, the creative people slowly and gradually got in.
However IMO finding an active community within the diaspora of finicky servers and empty channels, makes it less alluring than a centralized service.
I simply hope that at some point, finding out communities will become easier.
Where are those people in Lemmy?
Also, for those few posts of creative stuff around here, where are the people to upvote and comment on them?
Hey I’m a musician/creator actually! I’m attempting to be the change I wish to see! I haven’t shared anything here because I treat Lemmy as more discussion oriented but on Mastodon I’ve shared my first Peertube upload.
I just refuse to be like those “pick me” people who are only on a platform in hopes of building their “brand”. I truly want to make friends here and if they happen to like my tunes when I occasionally share them that’s fucking dope for me. I’m seeing quite a few people like me too who are using the federation as more than the grind for fame. Overtime we will get the pick me’s, but I think we will get a lot of decent artists in it for artistry sake
I'm still okay with a bit of politics discussion, but seeing US politics on timeline everyday?? I am NOT a US citizen and I DO NOT CARE about their politics at all. And the doomerism posting, so so tired of them.
That's why I tend to follow casual community like !artshare, music related stuff, etc. I also made a community for japanese trains, though it's my first time running a community so I'm kinda confused how to run the community.
For better or worse, they're busy creating rather than being overly concerned about their platform.
I don't how many times in my life I've thought "this thing I'm doing is really cool, I should share it!" And immediately follow it up with "yeah but why would I care if anyone else sees it? I'm doing this for me, not them."
And as time goes on I think less and less about impressing other people and just take pleasure in my own skills and creations, and let me tell you, it's way better this way.
Hello friend, can I interest you in making post apocalyptic battle cars out of Hotwheels?
No I'm not learning the rules to Gaslands.
The cosplayers?
I’m here, but I think I’m the only one to have posted in the last 4 months. I just make a couple cosplays per year as a hobby, so I don’t really have much to post. And asking for cosplay help seems pointless. Here I could wait a week for one response, whereas on instagram I’ll get 5 different ways to fix my issue in an hour
reddit had some decent cosplay discussion, but as far as i can tell, most of the community is just on instagram (and some youtube)
I'll be posting a DIY solder fume filter soon. Followed by some home automation sensors, 3D printed steam deck accessories, and custom pegboard mounts. Creating seems to all end at the same time.
Make sure to at least cross post it over at !makerstuff@lemmy.world. We haven't had content in a while and your stuff would fit perfectly.
I have made quite a few short video edits that I post here. I'm doing what I can, but the creativity well is starting to run dry honestly. There are definitely some of us out there making stuff for Lemmy.
Quite a few seem to be on Discuit, which is a lot more lighthearted.
Stop doomposting and start DOOMposting.
myhouse.wad
Happiness has to be fought for.
Post and comment. Until it is done.
Oh man... I remember having an app back in the 90's that let you use DOOM weapons to shoot up websites (among other things that basically applied decals to the sites you visited). That would be a fun way to browse again.
Instructions unclear, ripping and tearing.
Instructions unclear, fighting demons on Phobos.
Yeah, times are kinda rough right now
I recommend !upliftingnews@lemmy.world but it's not super active, about a post a day
!lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world is also good
Oh yeah, that one's great too
That community is also guilty tbh. Sorry for bringing this up, but I saw the other day about "Children school food debt" or something like that on that community, and I was like, what? How is that uplifting at all?
Yeah, it's hard to see the "orphan crushing machine temporarily stopped" headlines as a positive for me, too. I had to stop looking at that community. It didn't seem they were particularly open to feedback about those articles, either.
Ok, I didn't see the post you're talking about, so idk
The posts I've seen have been uplifting to me
Subscribed!
Nice, joined.
I find that eventually those kind of posts end up filled with people who either have to explain why the thing is actually bad, or "that's nice, but what about this thing that's bad!". To every post.
Hopefully that doesn't happen here, and I'll try not to be negative :)
I have two accounts. One with nothing blocked, and this one were I blocked all the serious subs, news subs, depressing subs, etc. so that I could switch to it when things got overwhelming.
Ended up being so much happier with the filtered feed I almost never flip back. I'm still aware of current happenings from other sources and Lemmy is my chill out spot and I love it.
I added porn subs into my main. Break up the doom with boobies
I recommend going in heavy with the community and user blocking. Manually curating your feed is the only way to make social media even barely tolerable. You'll feel some FOMO at first thinking that by blocking you're going to miss something. Yes you are but you also wont know what you're missing so it doesn't matter. Personally I have set several content filters aswell so threads about Elon, Twitter, Reddit, Trump, Taylor Swift etc. get automatically hidden.
On top of this I have around 500 blocked users and about the same amount of instances (mostly porn and foreign ones) I sometimes see a thread with more replies than what I'm seeing or that a blocked user has commented on my message. When I log out to see what it is, my conclusion virtually every time is that "yep, you're staying blocked"
This is why I'm on so many blocklists.
No. Wait.
aswell
Not really a word, my millennial friend.
That's why.
I can definitely see why you're on so many blocklists.
!science_memes@mander.xyz has been on fire lately and comments can spark some good learnin
Thanks for the suggestion!
I second that community is awesome
We do need to address certain toxic traits that are bringing things down, hyper negativity is the default as well as intense partisanship to the point where anyone with a slightly unpopular opinion is instantly labeled as an troll, bot, or agent of dark forces - you can see it a dozen times just in this thread.
There is no debate here because anyone who doesn't follow the groupthink is chased out, the news is super biased because of this but it also spills over in to everywhere.
I think there are too many people that think they should be the dictator of lemmy, we really need to start up voting good posts and useful content rather than knee-jerk down voting.
Yeah. This place is turning into a weird echo chamber. I guess since conservatives have a habit of fleeing places as well when they don't like it, maybe the same thing happened here. (Examples such as escaping cities to the country, homeschooling, constant denomination splinters in Churches whenever a mainline one gets too left wing, brexit, etc. any other examples of conservatives splintering welcome.)
The echochamber formed fast and hard here. It's really sad to see. It feels less like a new place and more like another clubhouse. And ffs, content is so slow. Gotta surf top of all time and still barely find content.
Yep. It's like everytime I comment maybe we are not really making ukrainian lifes easier by giving them bombs ppl will insult me or at the very least call me russian agent. I've never been in Russia, have 0 russian/simpatizer friends and I think Putin is a despot, bc he is. Five comments insulting me have been removed already. Please keep up the good work.
It probably reflects the minds of the people. With good reason. It will take proactive curation of your feed to avoid it. Good luck
It mostly feels like bots throwing up whatever content they find based.on popular topics.
Sure, but they were popular topics to begin with. Things are getting worse for certain segments of society, and it’s actually a good thing that there is a sobering outlook and not willfully ignoring their plight.
Yes! I'm also very tired of the repetitive "capitalism bad. America bad. XYZ terrible for the environment" replies. We get it, you have things you don't like. You don't need to repeat it on literally every single subject that exists. There are so many low-effort comments that just recycle the same 3 subjects over and over again, regardless of the actual original topic.
My favorite example of this so far, the top rated comment on a post about players making a one million science per hour factory in factorio:
Factorio is proprietary software, Mindustry is not
Lemmy is so negative, it even hates Factorio.
Do you mean this comment? It may have been at the time you saw it, but it didn't last.
Yeah, the ratio of fanatics and extremists to regular people is very high here.
It's mostly bots and LLMs spreading authoritarian propaganda, not real people.
DaE Le gUiLloTiNe? Eat the rich!! Everything is a conspiracy, nothing is a result of complicated systems and incentives!
Yes. This place is relentlessly negative, and I'm no sunny optimist myself.
I aggressively block communities and on some occasions, people who are obvious agenda pushers. It takes a mildly annoying amount of work to clear away the mess and keep it cleared, but it can be done. It's okay to block shit.
Agree. The amount of people doom saying, massively blowing things out of proportion, or having victim complexes is out of control. If you got all your news from Lemmy, you'd think society as we know it is about to collapse.. or at least American society.
Reddit has a lot of downfalls, but at least it was diverse and the memes were better.
the memes were better.
[X] Doubt
Still miss 2westerneurope4u
I say there's not enough Doom posting. RIP AND TEAR
E1M1
I find I miss a lot of current events, only browsing Lemmy. It seems Lazer-focused on whatever it's currently worrying about, ignoring more timely news.
I definitely don't recommend solely relying on Lemmy as a news aggregator, solely because of its significantly smaller user base than something like reddit. I have found rss feeds to be more ideal to peruse local news, global news, tech updates, official blogs for different linux distros, etc. Feeder is the foss rss reader I use, off of fdroid. Then I like to share the stuff I like on both Mastodon and Lemmy
You mean there's good news out there?
More memes than anything, I used to scroll AskReddit all the time and it was usually interesting to read.
Lemmy, and .ml in particular is absolutely infested with right wing trolls hiding behind the thinnest veneer of leftism who are trying to doom post over the economy and geopolitics hoping young voters will check out and not vote.
It's literally the exact same playbook from 2016, and it's amazing more people don't see it.
Meh maybe a few are doing it with malicious intent but it's more likely that most of the "right wing trolls" don't even know they're right wing trolls. It's probably real people who feel genuine moral justification for their statements.
Exhibit A right here. If you disagree, you're a troll/shill or Russian bot. Ffs people like you completely destroy meaningful discourse here and then you blame everyone else.
The bubble has burst, none of the fun communities I subbed to when I came over have any active users left anymore. It's all the same 3-4 people posting news and rhetoric.
Be the change, become the active user
but that's going to need some effort. The bots and marketing agencies did all the post on reddit. I just wanna scroll and complain. 😭
Post the content that you wish to see.
I do. It's not enough.
No-discussion downvoters are a massive problem here moreso than any other site I've ever used.
Agreed
What makes me irritated is when I go to any kinda uplifting news places it's usually low key abelism or sexism or somethings people don't understand can harm people which is weird
Aka inspiration porn
Or straight down "orphan crushing machine".
A lot of the "interesting" posts on Reddit were created by bots. A LOT of bots.
In that case, isn't it sad that bots are producing better content than the Lemmy community?
Who said bots aren't also spitting out trash Lemmy content? Seems to be the case to me
They aren't producing anything. They're reposters, not content creators.
I think Reddit is much worse at the moment. Don't go there unless you want to worsen your situation.
Sometimes it's required to step away from reading news for a while. Now that there's US elections, the world is going to focus on that, creating all sorts of doom news. Also you can build your frontpage yourself, simply unsubscribe from the doom Lemmy's and only read the positive ones.
Agreed. Lemmy is bad, reddit is worse. There's so much propaganda everywhere, LLMs have ruined social media.
How am I supposed to doom scroll without doom posts?
; )
You should probably just block some of the news comms. Often you can find news elsewhere anyway so it's not the most pressing or interesting thing to follow tbh.
My niche communities aren't active enough so I resort to browsing All.
Not just you at all. I read the Top 6-Hour usually, so I have been blocking communities and filtering out keywords left and right to try and reduce the constant deluge of doom. (Yes it is working)
It's like, yeah I know we are totally hosed, I don't need reminders every 10 milliseconds. All it leads to is learned helplessness and depression.
Absolutely. I second the heavy use of blocking communities using an app. If you still want exposure to news you can consider downloading a couple news apps and checking them once or twice a day. You will still see the shittier aspects of humanity but at least you can do it when you choose to.
Connect on Android has been key for tidying up my feed and allowing blocks by user, community, or instance.
Seconded, I'm loving Connect.
Good point. I should stop using my social media as my news outlet.
So go and be the change you want to see. Lemmy is not so big that you can't make a difference.
Always plenty to be gloomy about, I tend to block those communities though, not because I'm in denial about it, I already know to vote Green or Democratic for like my whole life, you don't need to convince or sway me.
Omg YES. I am so tired of seeing bad news all the time, all it does is ruin your day. I come to Lemmy to unwind and escape reality, to look at some funny memes and forget my life for a bit, not to be constantly reminded of all the horrible things happening in the world.
Yes, me too. I've unsubscribed from the political and news communities, several weeks ago. That helps. And I don't think it's specifically a Lemmy problem. It's everywhere. And since lots of people use Lemmy as a news feed, we get all the doom posts in our timelines.
Unsub from news and politics first and foremost. If something important happens, you'll hear about it. Just make sure you keep some open channel (IRL!) to keep an ear in.
Then start focusing on communities where people recognize each other's names. You can either be big, or you can be intimate. Trying to approach tiny Lemmy like it's big anonymous Reddit is going to be disappointing. You're missing an opportunity if you're not engaging with familiar names.
Fear and anger sell, which is why so much news media is focused on things that make people angry and afraid. Same with politicians. This place isn't inherently trying to push anything (not the way the media does), but it certainly reflects the stuff that people are talking about.
You'll die one day
And you'll have to live every day until then.
See! This is the positivity we all want!
The beauty of kbin/lemmy is how easy it is to block content you don't want to see, so either block the users who mostly post doom, or the news/politics communities as a whole. If you then still want to scroll news for a limited time, browse in incognito or from a secondary account ¯(ツ)/¯
Yes. I have taken to blocking communities because my energy and mood is a precious resource I need to protect. I know already the world is in a bad place.
Nah, I kinda like it, keeps my mornings sufficiently spicy and grounded. I tend to be more upbeat when I get too in my shit, and so it's mostly better if I can browse around horrible doomposts and depressing shit when I need it. Certainly, I tend to like it better than cheerful nonsense that tends to either amount to played out references, or tribalistic bashing, though, that's not to say doomposts can't really be in that same vein either.
In any case, you're gonna see them because they're more likely to survive and get attention. This is good, for bringing awareness, maybe bad for explanatory power or sustained activism, but it strictly has more survival power in the attention economy, when compared to normal posts.
I've blocked so many communities and users, that I'm scared to look at how big my list is...
Today I've seen someone trying fiction novels for the first time and another post extolling the virtues of Ferrero Roche chocolates.
You see how you are.
Which makes me want to check in and ask if you are ok?
I'm tired of the "DAE" posts that got banned in reddit, and I understand why. There's usually a better way to express this opinion.
To entertain this though, this is an internet wise concept, we're aware of "doomscrolling" for a reason. There's not really a reason to think Lemmy or some other platform would be wildly different.
Gotta touch grass and trees With penis
A lot of them are either bots or are working for some clickbait farm. You will eventually come to realize that you need to block the worse offenders.
You see a doomer user and your response is to block the community?
I think I've found the problem... User error.
Agreed. This trend is "block things that make me uncomfortable" is a tragedy of the commons thing. Sure, you made YOUR feed better, but you've ceded the commons to the stuff you hate.
Blocking someone does not silence them. It just means you personally have put your fingers in your ears.
Idk. My mental health has been a lot better since I blocked the words rape and torture from my feed. I know that stuff is happening. I don't need constant details and pictures of the victims daily. A sub about the war is for that stuff. My adding uplifting things to that community would be inappropriate. It's better for me to remove myself.
No because I'm already stuck in my own delusio bubble that makes me not care. Couldn't tell you whether it's my personality, autism, or a combination of things.
I never see that. You must be subscribed to different communities than I.
I browse all, so my subscriptions are not really influencing it and I see the same thing OP does.
I have my own instance and only subscribe manually to stuff I want to. I see no gloom at all
What do you mean with "doom" stuff?
For me, "doomposting" means not just posting negative news, but posting arguments that it's futile to try and make things better.
Beehaw exist for a reason.
Oh my, yes.
It was a weird cultural thing on Reddit, too.
I think it's just marketing and propaganda. The companies, corporations and political forces that want to drive the world wide internet conversations are spilling over and leaking into everything including Lemmy.
Lemmy.News has a whole group that is constantly pushing war rhetoric against Russia ... lots of other groups are either right leaning or drifting to far right sentiments.
It's the same thing that is happening in the real world. Everyone has an opinion and if we were all honest and showed it, the world overall is a fairly liberal, open and accepting civilization.
Unfortunately, the loudest voices are those with the most extreme views and more often than not, they have a lot of money and funding behind them because wealthy people are pushing an agenda.
It's not that the world has become worse, is that the worst of us have become the loudest voices while the majority of us choose not to say anything.
"Fuck Putin" is not a far right position, let's clear that up right now.
It's not just you, but it's not just Lemmy either. Anywhere I go, I need to prune subs or else my feed becomes more and more pessimistic.
I think as a species we have a mental bias that focuses on what needs changing and not what's okay as it is.
I’m convinced that we can address needs for changes while not being doomsday cultists either; I’m pretty much doing it as much as I can while not being a drama queen about it and generally shutting the fuck up.
But it doesn’t get me much attention which I guess is what the cultists are after.
People are tiring of the shouting, though. The cultists will find out eventually that people can't be mad all the time if you want your shit to work.
I'm like 90% sure the actual hard in doomsayers are paid posters hired by the fossil fuel lobby.
It's become obvious that Millennials and Zoomers see fossil fuels as a curse upon the land and if they get into power they'll do everything they can to kill the industry outright, so what's there to do instead except to burn them out to the point that they give up?
Where they can't get approval, they'll instead force apathy.
Edit: see below convo with doomsayer insisting they're saying anything worthwhile when they push the fossil lobby line.