PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them] @hexbear.net

2y ago

Look at my succdems dawg, we're never getting socialism at the ballot box dawg

"Bernie's supporters have been very, very damaging to him, and it's really frustrating to see and experience. They don't realize how influential they are. It's frustrating to feel like they are hurting him," Ocasio-Cortez said in the midst of the 2020 primary, according to the book. "I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate."

She also worried that the behavior of Sanders's supporters were "forcing an unnecessary choice between class analysis and race analysis" through their "behavior, not so much policy."
Ocasio-Cortez made those comments as she mulled whether to endorse Sanders's 2020 campaign, even though she had worked as an organizer on his 2016 campaign.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ocasio-cortez-bernie-bros-reactionary-left-wing-book-2023-12

It's socialism or barbarism dawg

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- Yes, because the "BernieBro" thing was mostly an online thing. In other words, that was just very online Hillary/Biden/Warren people crying because young people cared more about another candidate. But it was made into this huge issue by the mainstream media, I am betting that it received more TV time in 2016 and 2020 than the Iraq war and climate change combined.
  
  Is the Bernie Bro in the room with you right now, Hillary?
  Just a made up demographic to discredit as a proxy for discrediting all Bernie supporters.
- Black people ain't having no Bernie
  
  Thanks for bringing the mental image of this photo back to my memory.
  
  I love when people do blackface on social media. It's so cool and not at all weird to roleplay as a minority to try and own other white people.
  
  Warren really was the high water mark for 'Twitter is not real life'
  
  I winced from the secondhand cringe reading this. It was probably him saying that and everybody telling him to shut the fuck up.
  
  That barber's name? Albert Einstein.
- Didn’t Warren get like third place in her home state?
  
  Yes. And it was at that point only a three person race
- yep, AOC is just a warren-ite college cracker professional set-type so she doesn't see this pattern
  
  She just "feels" like everyone else should agree with white college cracker professional set.
  Her 6month bartending gig is stilen valor
- Yeah in the middle of the 2020 primary there was definitely discussion of Warren getting polite Bernie hand-me-downs. I can't blame anyone for "feeling" like that during the midst of 2020 - there was a concentrated media effort to make that case and propaganda/advertising actually do work. It turns out, real people didn't actually behave that way though. If aoc is still concerned about that now or anytime after Warren washed out then she's a dumb ass but who cares if an electoral politician was aware of and in some way responded to electoral political punditry in 2020
- Also the difference between his support from men and women was only 5%, but the media always stressed he was specifically "the candidate for young men"
I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate.
Did it feel that way??? Cause it definitely was not that way in reality
- Got her ass
- Thanks God she consolidated all those votersnornshe might do aonething really embaressing like come third in her home state. Then it would be really obvious the only reason she was still in was to split the "left".
- Naw naw naw naw! Not in my house! I don't want to hear about it!
  
  Stop being disrespectful!
  7 years later.....with his VP now president Record number of anti-LGBTQ bills have been introduced this year
  
  It's not his fault! He can't do anything he's only the president!
  
  I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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I used to support universal healthcare but then someone was mean to me online
- We now have no choice but to be racist
Didn't she literally do a show with Hasan?
Like, is there anyone that is more of a Bernie Bro than Hasan was? If I was going to describe a Bernie Bro to anyone back when that election was happening I would have pointed at that himbo.
- She was just being a very good politician.
  It was good exposure for her brand and she was quick to capitalize on that younger generation audience.
- maybe this is a power play to eliminate Bernie as the face of the social democratic movement in the US and become its leader in a machiavellian way
  lol, but its probably just her calling for "civility"
  
  I think she's realised that she won't go into the next election season as a progressive hero, but as a sell out, so she's trying to get out in front of it.
- She also did an Amongus Stream. Little did I know how sus she actually was.
AHHHHHHH THE WHOLE THING WAS A SMEAR, BERNIE SUPPORTERS WERE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE THE LEAST RUDE OF ANY OF THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES' PRIMARY VOTERS
DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB
- REMEMBER PUMAS
  REMEBER WHEN 25% OF CLINTONS SUPPORTERS PROUDLY VOTED FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE TO SPITE OBAMA FOR BEATING HILLARY
  REMBER WHEN THOSE SAME PEOPLE TURNED AROUND AND ACCUSED BERNIE SUPPORTERS OF DOING THE EXACT SAME THING EVEN THOUGH EXIT POLLS EXIST
  
  Gaslight
  Obstruct
  Project. <<
  Hillary supporters are here ∆
So she believed the media hype about Warren during the primaries. AOC's peak popularity was during the Trump years when being a snarky Twitter reply guy got you attention. Early interviews after her win revealed how big of a lib she was with how she defended Obama and allowed herself to be restrained just by having a fellow Puerto Rican congresswoman talk to her.
She was kind of promising early on with the Green New Deal and fiery speeches, but Pelosi putting the muzzle on and the January 6 insurrection was all it took for her to shut up and sit down. Now she gets ratio'd by Elon on Twitter and continues to have terrible foreign policy takes.
She's the type of American liberal poc that is all race issues at the most shallow level and will talk a big game about economics while continuing to play the neoliberal game behind the scene.
- All race issues except for systemic solutions to race issues or the economic basis of racial oppression.
Some Bernie Bros made fun of me for voting to fund the Iron Dome so now I no longer believe in social democracy.
She bartended for 6 month for the photo op.
That's what real stolen valor looks like
- Remembering when a bunch of right-wingers ended up boosting that propaganda because they thought "she's just a bartender!" was some kind of own
  
  I'm remembering a lot of libs hating on Maduro because he used to be a bus driver. American politics is uniquely stupid because it has so little class awareness.
The whole respectability politics thing makes me actively want what's worst for the US and Americans at large sometimes. What, everyone else get to be boorish shitheads and i can't even fling a turd or two back at them?
- Respectability politics is when you bomb 8,000 children in Gaza, but clutch your pearls and faint when someone in tictok says that Biden sucks Zionist cock.
- 50-60+ year old AOC is going to be so fucking cursed
  
  I hope she get her consulting job long before, but yeah I see the turn and it's not pretty.
- Nancy Pelosi with the popularity of Obama with Zoomers.
- I just asked this but did Pelosi even get this shotty this fast, AOC is still way too young to already be at where Pelosi was at the end ofnher career.
  At least Pelosi was literally openly making millions from insider trading before she sold out her morals, instead of just being criticized on Twitter
through their "behavior, not so much policy."
ah, you see, the vibes analysis results portray you as a soyjack
Good news! We're not his supporters anymore!
Lmao, fraternal order of the Bernard brethren strike again, this time striking fear into the hearts of sellout AOC (an even bigger sellout than cowardly Bernie)
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
It's either the dirtbag left who donated time, money, sweat, and sanity to get you elected, or the Jan 6 fascist chuds. Which would you rather have breathing down your neck?
- It's really clear she prefers the chuds because they don't call her out for being a fake progressive.
  
  Also the chuds are the ones who elevated her name by making her a centerpiece opposition figure.
- The year is 2030. Amidst popular protests against her failure to enact the promised healthcare reform, President Ocasio-Cortez wept on national television as she promised to restore law and order before the protests further divide the country. She then called in the ~~Freikorps~~ Proud Boys to crush the opposition.
- The chuds
  
  Fr at least they are not going to bother you with complicated policy ideas that will pit you against the imperialists, the crypto fascists, and the fascists.
- "Thanks for the $27, commies!" - Bernie and AOC
"That bastard! We can never forgive him for briefly getting people believing that American politics could be more than just a race to the bottom of "the lesser of two evils". And that they could demand that politicians occasionally think about the well being of the people. He cost Hillary the election!"
I feel like Warren is scooping up LGBT, progressives, women, and progressives of color because of how they isolate
- This brought back memories of that viral photo when the hotel cleaning ladies in Las Vegas came out to caucus for Bernie.
  Moments like this will never happen again in America’s electoral history. The working class has been betrayed. Bernie Sanders has betrayed all of them.
  
  To continue the Vegas motif, you can’t get a blackjack when you’re only allowed one card
  
  The material base for an uprising has eroded, the working class has betrayed mankind and themselves…
- Also of note is that (as seen in these maps) Warren basically exclusively appealed to rich “””progressives””” who wanted roads to be paved more but not for their shares in JP Morgan to tank
- Look at all those white male Bernie Bros on the right.
no more half measures walter
Its Bernard Brothers tyvm
- Brethren of the fraternal order of St. Bernard
  
  BTFO
Hey, Obama boys: Back off already!
Liberals like AOC/Bernie that larp as more progressive than they really are, are so fucking cowardly. Their supporters are worse because they're convinced they're the only ones who are right about fixing the rotten capitalist system.
- I'm genuinely interested to hear what you mean in regards to AOC and Sanders.
  
  They pretend to be "progressive" (which is really just libs + free healthcare) but they're the same as every other lib. They market themselves as being some kind of radical alternative for voters but they're anything but that. It's evidenced by they way they vote; 99% of the time they vote for the same disgusting policies that they claim they're against because they're bought and paid for the by the ruling class. You can't "fix" capitalism from within, you have to dismantle it.
American politics stupid
- We had a good thing going
Jesus fucking christ already punching left at bernie.
Seriously was Pelosi this dogshit this early on or is AOC literally on a trajectory to be this generations Feinstein.
These people got a little bit of pushback from the left once in an entire generation and they completely lost their minds over it. Also, how are you going to "defeat fascism" if you're this soft?
- Also, how are you going to "defeat fascism" if you're this soft?
  by voting every 4 years
insane that this is literally a thing that journalists decided to believe about the people sending them
on twitter and the most gullible "progressive" in politics heard about it and decided it's true and relevant
I used to have an insta video of them hugging that I saved on my phone in 2019. I was so high on that shit.
It's me or a 🥒!
The left should take a leaf out of the right's book, tbh, AOC is correct about that. The way that the right had that campaign to stamp out toxicity and mysogyny was really impressive stuff.
(Not that these things should be excused on the left just because the right does them, mind—I'm just bored of holier-than-thou-definitionally-right-leaning-libs preaching about progress while being not just part of the problem but the problem and also being complicit in trying to genocide Palestine.)
- To say they should or should not be excused is to concede the premise that they exist as more than an MSNBC hit piece narrative in the first place.
  The reality is that it was, as always is, projection from the right. The toxicity they were describing existed. They were Khive.
They don't realize how influential they are
"Ben Mora from Seeking Derangements pocdast is one of the most influential people alive, instead of being toxic by cyberbullying liberal reactionaries such as Pete Buttigieg or Mitski, he should be leading us to the ballot box"
- What did Mitski do.
The year is 2024 and Democrats are still whining about some rando with a podcast calling them fake.
Sanders's supporters were "forcing an unnecessary choice between class analysis and race analysis" through their "behavior, not so much policy."
The Antifada just had an author come on to talk about their article and they also pointed at BLM activists that totally forego a class analysis for race analysis and similarly did dumb shit. It's something in the water man, baby-brain dogshit liberalism in everyone's drinking supply.
But according to reporting in Ryan Grim's "The Squad: AOC and the Hope of a Political Revolution," the New York congresswoman thought the idea had a lot of merit — and that it was hurting Sanders' prospects.
I'm definitely not defending AOC, but I'd like to point out that this quote came from some shitty liberal journalist, and was later quote mined from fucking Business Insider.
- Is Ryan Grim not considered reputable anymore?
  I know he’s lib brained but I used to follow his Twitter during the election season for news from the progressives and never thought his reporting was bad in terms of accuracy.
  
  I think that you said it, he's lib brained. I don't think he'd explicitly lie, but rather emphasise what fits his own bias. Who knows how seriously AOC took that comment in 2020.
😔
Bernie was honestly a large part in my deprogramming, but at this point you can't act surprised when electoralism fails you

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