Dolph is prime human
Dolph is prime human
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Nye is more of if an educator than scientist. A lot like your average science teacher in high school.
Dolph is usually posted in this manner to put down Nye's support for climate research, anti creationism, and other 'political' stands.
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He's a science guy, not a scientist.
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He sure does like to pretend he’s the latter
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Based on what exactly? I've gone to one of his events, he's pretty explicit about being a science educator. I can't say I've seen him claim otherwise anywhere, though people definitely like to put those words in his mouth.
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He's explicit about being a science communicator and welcomes that discussion.
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citation needed
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aw did the science guy hurt your feefees?
show me where the bad man TOLD YOU SOMETHING OBVIOUS THAT RUINED YOUR DAY.
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bill nye is not a scientist, and he never claimed to be one. He is a science communicator, a role he has done well for some time.
Same with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
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He specifically claims to be a science guy. Not a scientist.
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BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL!
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NDT is a pompous ass
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Sure but watching him on nova when I was a kid is a big reason I got so into science and engineering so I don't really care
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Unfortunately same with Bill Nye. He seemed so pissed at getting recognized by people at a symposium.
Like geeze dude sorry you inspired people as kids and encouraged them to pursue science and they're excited to meet you.
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It's a downside of being educated and fascinated by what you've learned.
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Not the same with Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
I'm not his biggest fan, but I fully respect his scientific credentials. He has a PhD from Columbia. He published at least a dozen papers. There's no question that he's a scientist, a manager of scientists, as well as a science communicator.
The problem is that his success seems to have destroyed his humility. It's not that he brags about being so incredibly smart. It's more that he doesn't ever seem to sit back and say "hey, maybe this isn't something where my contributions won't be appreciated". I think his science communication is doing more good than harm. I think he's a great role model for little black boys who think all scientists are white, or that they're all stuffy nerds with no personality. But, I think he's at his best when he's in a show where there's a script and an editor. On social media and on free-form podcasts, he comes off as a know-it-all ass.
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He is a know-it-all ass. He's a self-important dickhead. But I appreciate his role in getting young black kids seeing a role model that they can relate to. That's far more important than his ego.
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But, I think he’s at his best when he’s in a show where there’s a script and an editor. On social media and on free-form podcasts, he comes off as a know-it-all ass.
^ This. I still am miffed at his attitude in regards to considering the issues of AI on I forget which talk show, but he took the attitude of "we'd just pull the plug".
Maybe when in a scripted format or in writing, he might be able to extrapolate a bit, but he just sounded like a layperson when it comes to the topic, and I honestly have no idea if he's read or considered the kinds of things that, say, Nick Bostrom has put out there. It just sounded like some hot take man-on-the-street kind of response, talking about the problem as if we are talking about someone's server running somewhere. It was just....facepalm.
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Neil DeGrasse Tyson has a Phd in astrophysics and he has published a lot of papers. He is a scientist and a science communicator. Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye are not the same.
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Sure, but he has a Bachelor of Science degree. :)
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Yeah, but that's BS
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And he is a Trump and Putin supporter. Fuck him.
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I could only find this:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2013/06/dolph-lundgren-putin-sniper-rifles-interview.html
It mentions only Putin (which also sounds like a joke) and it's from 2013 (before the annexation of Crimea).
Is there any more, and preferably recent, info?
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I don't care much about this guy specifically, but I wanted to chime in and say that I appreciate you looking for a source.
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Maybe they're confusing Dolph with Kevin Sorbo?
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2013 was still after 2008 invasion of Georgia and many other signs that Putin is a ruthless dictator tbh. In 2017 he said Russia is lucky to have Putin.
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Oof. Didn't know that
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There's no evidence for that anywhere. Always ask for a source.
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He took his role in Rocky IV too seriously.
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Source?
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to be fair bill nye is using his degree and teaching rather than someone that just ditched his degree after he got it. in a job setting they will take bill nye over someone that hasnt used his degree in a while. some people. one is passionate about the stems while the other ones wasnt, some people get higher degrees just because of pressure in thier social circles and then end up hating it and leaving, there were alot of those people in college.
they are seeing someone as having more prestige and degree means they are more qualfied than someone that has more experience in the field.
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If anything, in my 30 years I've learned degrees only mean so much. Someone without a degree but with actual on the job experience will out perform a new grad any day of the week.
Frankly the university system has become a way to make sure the poor stay poor.
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i believe that too, unfortunately for stems its still archaic in the way it gains experience, plus its also gatekeeped too in a way too, like they gatekeep MD salaries, although not as aggressive, the profs at my school you can gauranteed one of them had money to go to harvard or some expensive school and come out with a job in hand, you can tell which one came from these top schools because they also give off an elitist attitude. one the gen chem prof was like that.
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Bill is just a science guy after all. Not a science lord.
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...Does Bill Nye need more qualifications to be an effective science educator?
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He does not. This post is gatekeeping bullshit. The only thing that matters is knowledge of a subject. This shit reminds me of the worthless dumbfucks who immediately start asking for credentials when I tell them that their understanding of AI is nonsense.
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the post thinks having more degrees means your more qualfied in that profession, and also prestige. experience and basic qualification> more degrees and prestige just because your an actor.
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Whoever made this meme doesn’t know what exponentially means.
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This is science, not math.
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I, too, spent longer than I ever should have thinking about this. My first thought was, they're just using it in a linguistic sense, so it doesn't matter that the exponent would have to be something very small to go from 1 qualification to 4. But then I thought, hm, I guess since there's only 1 qualification for Bill, no exponent would be enough. But then I realized that grammatically the value in question is "qualification" and not "number of degrees". The number of degrees is merely standing in as a heuristic proxy to illustrate qualification. This "qualification" scale makes the most the most sense if it's between 0 and 1, representing percentiles of qualification. Therefore, the exponent applied to Bill's qualifications must also be between 0 and 1 in order to increase the value to Lundgren's. For a moment I thought this was the nail in the coffin for the original text, but of course the word "more" there again refers to the qualification, not to the exponent itself. This interpretation has the nice benefit that no matter what the exponent is, we always get a qualification value between 0 and 1. Hence I can conclude this is the only viable headcanon for this post.
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What do you guys think is so special about a scientist.
They measure things and record data really well. They apply scientific principles and such.
They use lab equipment and usually have a very narrow scope on the things they are working on.
Do you think every scientist gets a nobel or something?
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Scientist isn't a thing. It's like artist, a self-designation.
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No, its a thing, people have the title "scientist." Its just a job, tho.
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What kinda essentialism is this? Artist is also absolutely a job title. Sure, you can self-describe as well, but there are people that get paid to be an artist.
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Bachelors of Science? I know you could argue that is applied to a lot of degrees, However one of my kids is a Materials Scientist. It is the Diploma and Job. https://americanprofessionguide.com/materials-scientist-career/
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It's tragic that he never got to play a scientist who could smell crime.
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More educated, you mean? Cuz to my knowledge only one of them works in science
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He quit the Fulbright thing after two weeks though.
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Yeah, but look at why he quit:
However, while preparing for the move to Boston, he was spotted in the nightclub where he worked in Sydney and was hired by Grace Jones as a bodyguard, and the two became lovers.[18] He moved with Jones to New York City, where he dabbled in modeling at the Zoli Agency but was described as "a bit too tall and muscular for a model's size 40".
It's not like he said "this is too hard for me", it's more like he said "wait, I can have this other life instead?"
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I'm not complaining or anything. Bro was banging peak Grace Jones and saw a better life than chemical engineering (maybe he saw god, she was smoking hot). Before this meme I thought he had a PhD and then I had to look up the scholar stuff.
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Choice. A bold choice. Not a negative.
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Exponential in which variable?
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im not a scientist but my data points indicate that this meme fucking sucks
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"Bill nye the science guy"
Fair enough.
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Dolph lundgren the Science... Dungeon?
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Curmudgeon?
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This is the way
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What about a masters in engineering and a bachelor's in chemistry makes him even double more qualified? Yeah, maybe if he had a doctorate you could make that argument, but you could easily learn and do as much science work in 6 years outside of a university than you would in a BS and MS program at a university.
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Dolph, Dolph, Dolph!
Dolph Lundgren the science front man.
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Carl Sagan, Neil Tyson, Dora the Explorer. All very important. Be interested in things.
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Its not the size of your knowledge. Its what you do with it that counts.
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He's a science guy.
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He still audits classes at MIT occasionally.
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Stephen Hawking fell into the same role in his later years. If your first introduction to him was trying to communicate science to stupid people, please read Black Holes and Baby Universes, or really, any of his works before he was getting ready to die.
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IQ 160, speaks 6 lenguages, Black Belt in several martial arts, in the making of the Rocky movie, Stallone wanted for realism that Lundgreen give him a real punch, after this he woke up in the hospital.
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Instead, Lundgren found himself at the centre of one of New York’s most romanticised periods. He dabbled in modelling but was too tall and big for most gigs. He earned a basic wage alongside Chazz Palminteri as a bouncer on the door of Manhattan’s Limelight Club. By night, he hung out with Keith Haring, Iman and Steve Rubell. By morning, [Garace] Jones would bring back as many as five girls for group sex, an activity he describes as “exhausting”. He was a regular at both Studio 54 and the Factory, and Andy Warhol would invite him to do a photoshoot with Jones. But not before Warhol asked him: ‘What are you famous for?’
“It was certainly a shock for this young engineering student,” he says. “I’m pleased to have been part of that scene. It was right before Aids, and the club scene was hardcore. And my girlfriend, Grace, was a big gay icon, so we went to a lot of the clubs. We knew Andy and all the designers, and Michael Jackson and David Bowie. It was simpler in those days somehow. And fun. Entertainment wasn’t corporate in the way entertainment is now. A lot of the people I met back then are not alive anymore. You know, Aids or drugs or a combination of the two. Its bittersweet looking back. Even with Andy. I thought he was an old man at the time but he died in his 50s.”
Point to Lundren for epic party stories.
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The quote in his online biography about his modeling career is a bit more detailed:
Dolph took up modeling at the famous Zoli Agency to make some extra cash. 'A bit too tall and muscular for a model's size 40',
Wow. Can you imagine a bigger ego boost than being turned down to be a male model because you're just too tall and muscular?
Being perpetually exhausted because your celebrity girlfriend keeps bringing back too many girls for the group sex session is a close second though.
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I'mma need to see Dolph in a bow tie...
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Now what?
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Bill Nye is a science communicator, like Kyle Hill
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I wonder if Kyle will ever address his Bill Gates video or if he'll just ignore it forever
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Lundgren the science guy!
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🎶 Dolph! Dolph! Dolph! Dolph! Dolph! Dolph!🎶
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I bet Lundgren is a huge piece of shit irl, no way someone like this can’t have a major fatal flaw
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IIRC he's a Zionist and criticised Sweden for being too socialist, so yeah, a couple.
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I read through his wiki entry and didn't notice anything of import except he made a bunch of flop movies and then he married a personal trainer 40 years younger than him
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If he is a Prime, what does he transform into?
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120ft tall robot version of himself.
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And we are commenting on a device whose WiFi signal was inspired by the work of Hedy Lamaar.
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Sounds like he got him beat.
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Theater is everything. Even in "science".
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Dolph Lundgren also smells crime, and when he's not out fighting crime ...
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He also dated Grace Jones. Prime human indeed.
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Bill Nye the Engineering Guy
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If you read BS as Bullshit, it makes it better.
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My brain has always translated BS to "Bastard Studies." I genuinely have up take a beat when someone says they have a BS in something so I can remind myself science bachelor
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I always read it that way. Why not just call it B.O.S or remove the abbreviation?
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The same reason the National Aeronautics and Space Administration isn’t NAASA.
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Eh, it's more about the enthusiasm than the qualifications. Plus, while Bill Nye is no angel, at least he's not a Putin supporter.
Bill Nye is an entertainer / educator. I've met plenty of people with PHDs and masters who couldn't present a basic concept because they're too caught up in technicalities and not understanding what it's like to teach and get people interested in something.
I'll happily take a minimally qualified Science Guy that inspires thousands or millions of people to get into science than the most sciency scientist in all science that only ever inspired people to punch people.
Is there some controversy around Bill Nye that I haven't heard?
He has been a leading science communicator covering hundreds of topics for many decades, and is only human, of course there are going to be shortcomings.
He has a reputation of just being an unpleasant dick and difficult to work with. Nothing super problematic to my knowledge, just a bad personality.
Having personally interacted with him more times than I would like, and it was only 3, he's just a massive jerk, and a self assured belittler.
He doesn't respect people. I'm not sure he respects anyone other than those that can make his image better, and then it's conditional and stops when they aren't useful.
His AMA was pretty bad.
Source or GTFO. Spreading rumours about people is a shitty thing to do.
I'll be nice, but nobody owes it to you to source everything they say or look things up for you. Googling isn't hard.
There was a clickbait NY Post article that I'd never link to, this article (archive) is more even handed.
This is confirmed by a search that's faster than your comment so where's your anger coming from?