Thoughts on the Hasan Piker / Ethan Klein Debate

I watched, but it was just unpleasant watching Ethan steer the conversation towards petty slights.
Also, for a guy who's received flak for having noticeable tics, he was sure comfortable mocking Hasan for stumbling on words.
Didn't finish the video, but I hope Ethan's kids find it when they're adults.

On rednote I saw a man from Palestine calling Hasan an idiot for debating a person who is clearly mentally unwell, all while he and his people are being killed. I am inclined to agree with him. I think this does barely anything to move the needle on Palestine
- I saw that same video. He said that he was a fan of Hasan and watched Hasan for news coverage but didn't like that Hasan engaged in the debate. That guy is allowed to have an opinion.
  Hasan has done a lot of things to move the needle on Palestine. He's been doing news coverage on Palestine for over 10 years. I started watching Hasan during the first Trump presidency and he would do coverage on the Abraham Accords and Israeli raids on Al-Aqsa Mosque. I would try to talk to people about it at the time and people would always say like "Why do you care about Palestine? you live in America." There are many people on Hexbear right now who don't know what Trump's policies were on Israel and Palestine during his first term.
  I don't think Hasan was able to turn down the Ethan debate. Ethan had been harassing Hasan and Hasan's friends for months. There was a lot of pressure for Hasan to do the debate.
- They are former friends, so there’s probably a personal dimension to it.
  
  I followed some of it (regrettably) and I think it's pretty clear Ethan is acting in bad faith and has no intention of changing his mind. I think Hasan also knows this and was using the debate to try to reach to his audience, but from what I've watched I'm pretty sure any Ethan viewer is already set in their ways and will just project whatever they already believe in on the debate. They're also dumb so they probably think Ethan's gotchas owned Hasan, cause they don't understand anything besides drama and normalize Islamophobia so they can't even identify it.
  The best thing Hasan could do was just ignore him, becuase he was crashing out on his own and was heading to irrelevancy. The debate put him back to relevancy while doing nothing for the causes Hasan is supposed to care about.
  Anyways, I wish I could forget these people exist because internet drama is so pointless

No

this is the content version of drinking someone's pee after they had a bunch of kopi luwak
- I don't know. At least you can finish the pee in under four hours.

The drama in general and the debate has resulted in a half dozen leftwing channels exploding in mainstream popularity
Hasan, Denims, Mike from PA, Badempanda have over the course of a few months converted hundreds of thousands/perhaps millions into Hexberian style leftists
Ethan Klein triggered the second western leftwing media explosion of the 21st century lmao
- Hexberian style leftists
  This is not a good thing lol
  
  lmao come on we're not that bad
- Hexberian-style leftists
  You mean terminally online liberals?
  I'm the only real leftist here.
  
  Who u callin libral?

I'm glad it's helping badempanada grow

the slop treadmill continues to chug along (i don't know about this channel im just tired of this televised or rather streamed catfight).
- The OP of this this hexbear post has the same name as the Youtube channel. It's the same person.
- human centipede of slop

Idk, I've been busy either working or working out.

who care

Gonna have to purge Hasan from my slop feed until this dies down.