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Ukraine peace deal proposals set out by US at talks in Paris

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Ceasefire:

Permanent ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine
Immediate initiation of technical implementation negotiations

Security Guarantees for Ukraine:

Robust security guarantees for Ukraine
Guarantors: a group of European and willing non-European states
Ukraine agrees not to pursue NATO membership
Ukraine may pursue European Union membership

Territorial Arrangements:

Crimea: U.S. grants de jure recognition of Russian control
Luhansk: U.S. grants de facto recognition of Russian control
Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, Kherson: De facto recognition of Russian control of occupied parts
Kharkiv Oblast: Ukraine regains territory
Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant & Kakhovka Dam: Ukraine regains control under U.S. administration, energy distributed to both sides
Ukraine gains full navigation rights on the Dnieper River and control of the Kinburn Spit

Economic Provisions:

U.S.–Ukraine economic and minerals cooperation agreement
Full financial compensation and reconstruction of Ukraine
Removal of all Russia-related sanctions imposed since 2014
Resumption of U.S.–Russia economic cooperation, including energy and industrial sectors

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Lol, everything r*ssia ever wanted and more.

Long way of saying "give Russia time to regroup."
- Peace was always a prelude.
  Si vis pacem para bellum.
  The "full financial reparations" part is interesting... I wonder if it's intended to be unilateral? possibly actually an underhanded attempt to get compensation to all the Russian oligarchs who had their fancy boats and other property confiscated?

Russians won't go with this. They think can gain full control of the four heavily occupied regions.
Russians are incapable of good faith negotiations. To deal with them you need to be able to show that you are willing and able to use violence against them.
If you think I am wrong, show me a recent example of good faith actions from russians in the foreign policy sphere since the creation of the modern variant of the russian empire.
- Peace deal or ceasefire that becomes permanent will need to be policed to have any meaning. That means boots on the ground a la South Korea ...
- They may pretend to agree tho, start the ceasefire, then assemble their forces and right before the guarantors set up camp, they do a massive sneak attack. You can't trust those backstabbers.
  
  Exactly.
- I don't even think they can afford to stop the war.
  
  I don't even think ~~they~~ Putin can afford to stop the war.
  FTFY
  Putin has wasted so much blood and treasure, that If he stops the war, he's as good as dead in Russia's mafia state.
- Russians are incapable of good faith negotiations.
  I believe you mean Russian heads of government and military.
  
  Have to disagree with you on this one, with the clarification that I am refering to matters of geopolitics. What you are implying doesn't align with factual research and well, historical fact (do not forget that the russians occupied Moldova as far back as the early 90s, putin was no where near power back then).
  Happy to share; there are some really interesting approaches that lay bare the childishness of typical arguments on this topic. "How can you do polling in a country like russia, they are all afraid!" Turns out professionals in this sphere do have methods. 😀
  But I am curious if you have something more concrete that you wanted to expand on with respect to what you are saying or if this just a general thought on your part.

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