Four Democrats Pass Bill Making It Harder for Married Women to Vote

This headline is horseshit so I've only read enough to establish that much and am ignoring the rest of the article. Someone post a different one.
Here's all you need to know from the article:
Republicans, and apparently some Democrats
many have warned that it could even make it harder for married women to vote.
The only conclusion you should draw is this: Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever. You may conclude as you wish about all other matters based on other sources.
- I'm going to conclude blue MAGA is angry and can't take criticism.
  Attacking the source when NPR and plenty of media report the same thing.

It's not these four cowardly DINOs that make me lose faith in this country. It's the people continuing to defend them.

I wonder how the republicans voted?

But that means something like 204 democrats voted against. Maybe if those 4 hadn't of supported the bill, it might have failed, but you can't blame the democrats for a shitty bill when 97% voted against.
- Someone doesn't know abaut the rotating villain system.
- It still would have passed. 208-212

Time to vote with guns.
- Or at least vote for the progressive in the primary first.
  
  Pretty obvious from the election they want progressives kept of the ballots by all means, and mostly by the dems.
  Can't challenge the uniparty monopoly.
  
  Nah, people running under the progressive name need to know we're done fucking around.

Wonder how much they’re getting paid?

No Democrat should vote for a single Nazi bill, ever.
- Scratch a liberal...

“Four democrats passed this,” but we are just going to ignore the 216 conservatives that passed it?
So when do we get to start calling bullshit like this propaganda?
- "man bites dog" vs "dog bites man"
  We all know what the Republicans unanimously stand for. Apparently some democrats do too, and that's worth noting.
- My initial reaction to this headline was: "what now?", and my first reaction on reading the article was "oh, it's a continuation of the horror show that calls itself US government - not actually something that four democrats are responsible for"
  So I'm totally with you. Stop the sanewashing of the continued and systematic madness rising to ever new heights of depravity, should be the headline.
  Republicans built the foundation for what's happening now for decades, and it was always like you said in your other comment: "Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do." Well, slightly more differentiated.
  This bill is yet another voter supression tool. This is what they ultimately want: you have to be rich, male, of a certain ethic, and "white" to have a say. And they're almost there. If voting was really made easy for everyone, do you really think the GOP would still win?
  This is yet another piece of codified and systemic racism, misogyny, homo- and transphobia, richism.
  The hollowing out of what was once a working, relatively democratic system to a point where even the empty shell is starting to break up.
  All that said, Democrats should start wielding what power they have (both in the government and in media, public opinion etc.) way more decisively. Between elections we must talk about how fucked up both parties are.
  This comment (from this post) puts it best imho:
  https://lemmy.world/comment/16414382
  https://feddit.org/post/10702307/6001640
- People expect the representative they voted for to vote how they want. Conservatives' representative voted as they wanted. Whereas Democrats' representative voted against their wishes. Hence the outrage.
  This is a simplistic explanation, 4 Democratic representative might have voted as their constituents have demanded.
  
  I'd bet most conservative women didn't vote to have their ability to vote taken away as well. Having to have a "real ID" license accepted in every state not be accepted to vote is pure ridiculousness.
  
  Based on what I hear on local news, Perez at least probably is doing what her constituents want. She won a very red district as a Democrat by appealing to the people in her district. I don't like her vote, but I get it.
- Everyone expects the scorpion to stab the frog, it's in its nature.
  Everyone expects Republicans to be totally corrupt monsters.
  The people we are supposed to depend on to fight monsters keep helping them pass bills when they could be blocking them.
  This means they are complicit. There's always enough traitors to make the bad things pass, never enough cooperation to make the good things pass when they have a majority.
  The Democrats have been playing this game for too long and it's saf you haven't started to notice too.
  
  Easier to paste my response to someone else that responded with the same thing:
  I have a hard time accepting that just because, conserves are being conservatives, it’s seemingly fine that they do this shit. We’ll just all be outraged at the audacity of four idiot democrats that voted in lock-step with them.
  All of them need to be held accountable. ALL of them.
  But here, when all I see are people ignoring the villains, it makes me wonder why I ever bothered to question how we got here.
  Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do. And seeing everyone focused on holding four democrats responsible for their joint effort with 16 conservatives and not even mentioning the assholes that drew this up to begin with-
  I guess it all makes more sense now how thoroughly we are fucked.
  It’s totally Democrats fault.
- Everyone already knows all the republicans supported it; anything under their jurisdiction is already a lost cause. What I want to know is how many people from the "left" party can't even keep their own votes on the right side of history. It's not news when villains are villains - it's news when the people who say they're here to fight back against the villains are caught supporting them, and it's important not to drown out that important detail among a bunch of already-known regressives. People need to see that the current democratic party isn't a viable defense against conservativism, and that we need to do something more to get things moving in the right direction again than simply trusting democrats to fix everything.
  
  This is exactly the trick that has got us to this point, and you are giving the average news consumer way too much credit.
  Yes, democrats being villains on this is novel and republicans being villains is not, but news reports bias our attention and skew reality. Viewers who are only exposed to this unconsciously end up completely turned around, saying in general democrats are the problem. This is how we end up with elections where voters stay home. And young people have internalized the disproportionate criticism of democrats, and that is probably helping give right-wing influencers credibility.
  Objective and credible news should NOT just report on what's novel. They should report on proportional responsibility.
  
  I get what you’re saying… but have a hard time accepting that just because, conserves are being conservatives, it’s seemingly fine that they do villain-shit. We’ll just be outraged at the audacity of four idiot democrats that voted in lock-step with them.
  ALL of them need to be held accountable.
  But here, when all I see are people ignoring the villains, it makes me wonder why I ever bothered to question how we got here.
  Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do. And seeing everyone focused on holding four democrats responsible for their joint effort with 16 conservatives and not even mentioning the assholes that drew this up to begin with-
  I guess it all makes more sense now how thoroughly we are fucked.
  It’s totally Democrats fault.
- Four centrists centrist-ing.
- I've been calling out this propaganda since 2016. Dividing the left is an extremely successful tactic.
  
  What do Democrats have to do with the left? Especially the Democrats in question.
  Establishment Democrats have shived the left a million times and I never hear this pearl clutching about how they are "dividing the left" from folks like you. When a progressive primaries a corporate Democrat we get told that we shouldn't mess with incumbents. When a corporate Democrat challenges a seated progressive, the establishment pumps tens of thousands of dollars into the challengers campaign.
  We aren't "dividing the left", we are acknowledging a divide between the left and third way neoliberals. Establishment candidates want our votes and especially our donations, but then they want us to sit down and shut up.
  
  Calling people who voted to disenfranchise millions the 'left" is an insult.
  Havent you heard the term "It goes without saying"? I just don't need to tell you that the sun rises in the east, 2+2=4, or Republicans are evil. But apparently, some of you insist on giving a pass to Democrats, who act like they're on our side, but continually help make things worse.
  The point is that it's all kayfabe and just enough Democrats will vote to make things worse or prevent something from getting better. If you only blame Republicans, you're not paying attention.

im not surprised these DINOs are here, theres like 10 in then senate and probably just as many in the house.

IANAL but in my reading of the text of the bill the only way for a married woman that took her partner's last name (that wasn't in the military with her married name) to be able to vote if this becomes law is for them to spend at least $30 to get a USA Passport card. This would tick all the boxes the bill requires for these women:
Government ID
Shows citizenship status (by nature of it being a Passport)
Shows place of birth
Shows the married last name
...or as I'm calling it:
This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.
In this case, its a required fee married women must pay to be able to use their Constitutional guaranteed right to vote granted by the 19th Amendment. How is this not a poll tax by another name on married women?
- Consider this too. A woman has all of her ducks in a row with her married last name, and then divorces her POS republican husband. Now she needs to re-establish her identity all over again.
  For the ladies out there (or anyone getting married) keep your last name. My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.
  
  My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.
  Same here. :)
  
  But doesn't this mean you now have to get a passport card if you took their last name?
- It always seems to me that this wouldn't be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy. I know $30 can be a significant sum (plus the pictures and other expenses) but it would be less of a hurdle if
  relevant offices were within reasonable distance
  they were sufficiently manned
  all or part of the process could be done online
  the government actually strives to make these processes as user-friendly as possible
  This is something Americans rarely talk about because it's just assumed that everybody knows? Maybe somebody could explain to a EU dweller.
  edit: maybe I didn't phrase this properly. I'm fully aware that preventing people from voting has a long "tradition" in the US; my question was more general I guess, and meant as an "in addition to the points already mentioned".
  
  It always seems to me that this wouldn’t be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy.
  As a European I have no expectation you'd had this nugget of US history, but I can fill in the gap. After slavery was outlawed in the entire USA in the 1850s (post civil war) racist bigots enacted laws preventing black Americans from using their newly gained Constitutional rights. There were lots of examples of this. In many of the southern state local leaders instituted poll taxes, which was a required fee that someone would have to pay before being able to vote, but these same laws gave exemptions to anyone whose grandfather had voted in a prior election. Because whites had a long history of voting they were exempt from these taxes. Because newly freed slaves whose grandfathers had not been allowed to vote hadn't, the poll tax applied only to blacks. This disenfranchisement was deliberate on the part of white leaders with the intent to suppress black voting.
  This is obviously fairly fucked up way to run a country, so the people of the USA passed an amendment to the US Constitution banning poll taxes on everyone. This is the 24th Amendment (passed in 1964). Better late than never.
  So this new requirement on married women to pay at least $30 to get a passport card is a de facto poll tax which is outlawed by our Constitution (24th Amendment) also because it violates the 19th Amendment (the one that gave women the right to vote) as this law specifically targets married women (and not married men).
  
  Those in power absolutely know these things but making things more difficult is the actual point. Voter fraud is extremely rare. The justification is all bull shit.
  It's ultimately about preventing people who might vote Democrat from voting. If it affects a ton of Republican voters that's fine so long as it hits disproportionately more Democrats.
- Worse getting the card is a major pita with the documentation and photo and having to mail it for first time.
- At this point the constitution is more of a guideline.
  
  To the GOP it's just rough paper to wipe their asses.
- They could waive the fee as part of it?
  
  They could do that but besides still being shitty, it may not satisfy the 19th Amendment. The text of the Amendment read:
  The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
  source
  Making married women jump through the arduous hoops of obtaining a passport card (and indirect costs associated with it such as postage and photography costs) could still be possibly considered "abridged" in violation of this Constitutional Amendment. This is especially true when this new bill effectively singles out married women. Married men don't have to do any of this so it could also still be a violation on the "on account of sex" portion of the Amendment.
  
  How about making Bubba from bumble-fuck Arkansas have to drive to some major city to register for his right to vote?
  See how that can be seen as an undue burden on voting?
- here's the issue.
  There's been a tax on the second amendment for decades. Having to pay the fees for licensing, and the classes, means there's a cost to exercise the right. Since people with no knowledge about the subject made sure to make it as expensive as possible to enjoy a right, the psychopaths in office now have precedent.
  one cannot tax one right and hand wave another. So . which do you think will fall first?
  
  So which amendment bans taxes on gun ownership. Must have missed that one.
  
  Is there an amendment that bans a tax on gun ownership?
  If not, then your argument has no standing
  
  one cannot tax one right and hand wave another
  Clearly you're wrong because ones been being taxed and the other hasn't. There's a direct ban on poll taxes in the constitution, there is no such things for guns
  
  Oh shut the fuck up.
  
  Dont stop! I'm playing sad violin music to back you up! keep typing, think of the children who wont get to fire guns without your continued effort.
  
  There’s been a tax on the second amendment for decades. Having to pay the fees for licensing, and the classes, means there’s a cost to exercise the right.
  I looked at the receipt for a recent gun purchase, a rifle, and there are zero taxes or fees on it except sales tax which applies to nearly all items (such as video games or automobiles) for sale. There were no required licenses or classes to purchase or own this firearm.
  
  I have multiple guns. Never paid for a class, don't need a license. Only cost was in the guns and ammo. Now, I WAS taught at an early age how to handle guns safely, and am damn near brainwashed to handle them thusly (I never leave a bullet in chamber and I still clear my weapons every time I even touch them.) That said, I do need to stop being a lazy ass and finish building my ak47 instead of leaving it half assembled. Still needs a couple of American parts and I will not risk being dinged with an illegally built firearm.

I love how they never once mention in the article that Republicans wrote the bill, proposed it, and 100% of them voted in favor of it.
But, despite all that...the headline still reads, "Democrats passed it".
- I was thinking the same. Like what? 6 dudes didn't pass the bill, half of your representatives did.
- Because we expect that from Republicans. It’s the democrats defecting that is the worrisome part.
- The fact that Republicans want to take away peoples' ability to vote isn't really news, but the fact that any Democrats supported it is.
  
  It fucking should be news, and anyone trying to shift blame to Democrats is a goddamn shill.
  
  the fact that any Democrats supported it is
  No one paying attention would have expected anything different. Its been 13 years since the VRA was struck down and democrats have done nothing meaningful, other than fundraise, off protecting voting rights. Doing nothing is worse than taking rights.
- When are you doing to hold these fucking pro-Trump Democrats accountable? So such of the constant whining and crying every time the Democrats are called out on their bullshit.
  
  I'm fine calling out the 2% of Democrats that vote against their own constituents interests. But what I find hilarious, is the total lack of focus on the fact that 100% of Republicans are behind this.
  This is what Chomsky was talking about when he wrote manufacturing consent. The framing here is massively deceptive, to the point of being completely backwards...and folks just eat it up this way. They swallow this narrative whole, and spit it back up for others to swallow.
  
  What's Anyone doing to hold Republicans accountable?
  The headline should read 216 Republicans ensured passage of this bill.
  My God, part of everything we deal with these days is no one holds Republicans accountable. Media, voters, commenters, etc. Maybe try that for once instead of focusing on 4 Democrats who DON'T MATTER.
  
  They never will. They will defend them because even when they vote in agreement with stripping the rights of Americans because of Trump, they're on the blue team, so it's always valid and justified.
- Republicans tell us who they are, so theres no need to point out what theyve already told us. Democrats however always claim to hold the high ground as if they are not collaborators in regressive legislation.
  
  This explains it so well.
  
  So the trick to getting away with doing shit like this is to just be open about it? Weird. If that was the case, then why not give these Democrats a pass, as well? They aren't exactly hiding it either.
  Or are you just getting these four mixed up with the 200 others that didn't support this legislation?
- Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense. "Democrats" is fair. Not all Democrats, but the party establishment is rotten.
  
  Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense
  Who fucking cares what the establishment says. The nominees is whoever won the primary vote.
- Republicans wanting to ban women from voting isn't really news.
  
  It really shouldn't be news, but remember....there are most likely a lot of morons out there who would still be shocked to hear about it. The ones who don't like to talk or read about politics, the uninformed voter. These are Americans we're talking about.
- Actually only 216 Republicans voted Yea, 4 of them didn't vote at all, and 0 Nay but yes you're 100% right that the GOP should own this and the DNC are the resistance.
- Honest question, if those four hadn't voted for it, would the bill have failed?
  
  It passed 220-208, so no it wouldn't have changed anything.
- They did pass it.

Jared Golden, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, Henry Cuellar, and Ed Case
- Marie Gluesenkamp Perez sold out the US on another important vote at some point in the recent past. Her name was unique enough to remember. Are the other three also habitual free agents?
  
  Yep she’s a piece of shit and it’s pissing me off. I get the alternative would have been voting the same but now I have disappointment as well.
  
  Yeah, they all suck. Ed Case is a world class piece of shit as he's representing urban Honolulu, in a SOLIDLY blue district.
- This is why democrats worked so hard to keep coathager cuellar in office. They need people like him to vote how they want.

they are called collaborators. Nazi Collaborators..

IT FUCKING PASSED?
We have long crossed the Rubicon.
- It passed the house a few days ago, from my understanding it is less likely to pass the Senate
  
  Why wouldn't it? GOP are 53 seats in the senate, this is their bill with unanimous support in the house.
  
  If this is likely to pass its not just the Republicans who are compromised.
- What's the difference there won't be an election
  
  If everyone that said this pulled together we could probably stop the Silicon Valley coupe on our own.

Pretending to be a democrat seems to be more and more common. We need a way to vet them.
- Fuck vetting. We need a way for citizens to recall these lying fuckers.
- More people need to vote in the primaries.
- Unfortunately, if you try to vet them you'll be attacked for not voting for the lesser evil.
  
  Yeah, at this point it's beyond clear that it goes beyond "a few bad apples". Any attempt to primary these fuckers will have to overcome a tidal wave of Democratic establishment and AIPAC money.
  
  Someone has no idea how primaries work.
- DINOS, alot of them had to make deals with the DNC, because otherwise they get outed in a red district, or state. much like manchin is, since he wont be winning against a maga anytime soon.

Democratic leadership is a joke. Jefferies and Schumer need to step down. This is pathetic.
- 216 conservatives voted for for this. But you’re going to blame this on democratic leadership.
  This is how propaganda is so effective folks!
  
  I didn't think I'd have to spell it out for you but here we are.
  I'm not blaming the Democratic leadership on this bill passing. The Republicans have the majority, it's to be expected that their agenda gets passed. What I'm blaming the Democratic leadership for is being consistently incapable of unifying their party in steadfast opposition to the fascist and authoritarian agenda they spent the entirety of the last election cycle insisting would destroy our country as we know it.
  That's not to say I don't hold any blame on the Republicans. But what use is expecting better from people who've already sold their souls to an authoritarian demagogue?
  
  How is your party better than the other if you don't hold it to a higher standard?
  
  Is the general IQ on Lemmy dropping that rapidly? I've seen your name before but can't remember the context so I'm going to assume this is in good faith.
  Leadership positions....wait for it.... lead and address the members of their party and their actions. You know, like the republicans currently have on lock and shit on anyone that steps out of bounds. These individuals should most definitely be called the fuck out
  Rep. Golden's Tweet
  “I voted for the SAVE Act for the simple reason that American elections are for Americans. Requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote is common sense,”
  Some claim that requiring proof of citizenship is too onerous a burden, or that it will "disenfranchise" those whose names have changed for reasons like marriage. The truth is the SAVE Act ensures name changes will not prevent anyone from registering to vote.
  But most importantly, it requires state leaders to establish protocols to allow citizens to register even if there are discrepancies in documents, such as name changes.
  State's Rights.... The "real" truth is.... Common Sense, if that isn't the fucking republican playbook I don't know what is. Best part is the end,
  Maine's voting culture is the best in the nation. I am confident that under the SAVE Act, our state can both ensure that only citizens can cast ballots and that no one faces unnecessary barriers to registering to vote.
  fuck you, we got ours. No protections for those outside of his state, he doesn't fucking care lol. Every single one of these fuckers needs primaried and taken out of office. The actual fucking DNC shutting down funding and kicking these losers from the party would be a miracle we all need but won't happen.

They ONLY did That because they had NO CHOICE! If you WANT them to NOT Vote for it you have to DONATE and VOTE! Well maybe Not VOTE anymore if you're a Woman or Disabled or in a Rural Area or Poor but DEFINITELY DONATE!
- No choice? Nah, that's s fucking cop out. Democrats talk a big game about opposing Trump, but when the chips are down they vote for garbage legislation like this or vote for the budget, etc. We either hold them accountable for any support whatsoever that they provide to this regime or we let go of the fantasy that Democrats give a shit about being any thing other than a token speed bump to fascism.
  Edit: It has been pointed out to me that the post to which I'm replying was probably sarcasm. My bad. Too much reddit rots the brain apparently.
  
  Their post was clearly sarcasm. Excessive capslock is not a sign of seriousness.
  
  I, who do not have a single rat in this race, would like to mention that the post you replied to might be implying /s.

Ok whew, we are truly almost back to the 1890's, Trumpublicans apparently favored era of America.
19th Ammendment was passed back in... 1920.
Basically this undoes women's suffrage, so married women either just can't vote, or will face massive uneccesarry hurdles voting.
And of course transfolk as well, they're now pretty much ~~formerly~~ formally (ducking autocorrect) disenfranchised.
I wonder, do we have bootleggers (smugglers) for abortifacients, birth control, horomone therapy drugs yet?
I guess that'll be the 'growth market'.

You can currently vote in the US without ID?
I don't understand what the controversy is, providing ID along with your voting card seems normal to me.
What am I missing? I scimmed the article.
- You can vote in a lot of countries without ID dude.
  A birth certificate is a static document. In my case it was issued 47 fckn years ago. Why should i pay to update a half century document to match my current legal ID (passport, license , etc) I shouldn't and it's ridiculous
  A friend changed her surname after being adopted by her stepfather. She's fucked by this as well. Anyone who's ever changed a stupid name, broken from a bad parent, been adopted, anglicised, or even had a fat fingered nurse typo is now fucked....because idiots are hysterical over 0.6% of the population.
  
  Oh hey, that's me! Nurse swapped my vowels around. Literally hasn't been an issue for 37 years and now, it just might be.
  
  Could you name these "a lot of countries"? Since it's a lot of them, shouldn't be too difficult to mention 20 right?
  They say it's to prove citizenship, a passport is proof of citizenship isn't it? So that is enough no?
- I live in Canada, I can vote using my free government issued healthcard or I can bring a friend to vouch for me, or i can bring a student id and a bill. While most people probably vote with their drivers license or photo ID this enables people who are homeless, very old, or in my case in 2021, just moved. (Here's what's needed for the curious). You'll notice in that link there are special exemptions for people who live in long term care homes, for whom it is much more common to have no form of id.
  People who don't have easy access to id are societies most vulnerable people and I think it is especially important that they have access to voting.
  America does not have a free form of id (in most states anyway) and does not allow someone to vouch as a form of identification.
  
  I'm Swedish. Don't know if someone can vouch for me. Never tried. Pretty sure I need an ID.
  Everyone (18+) get a voting card in their mail sent to their adress. You bring the voting card and ID, like passport or drivers license. Someone ticks your name off a list and you can vote. (No registrering to vote or anything)
  ID isn't free, but a passport costs like $40-50.
  You can also get a national ID card. But that's even more expensive and I still don't quite understand why you would want one rather than just getting a passport.
- Getting an ID is a barrier to access. Since you have to pay to get that ID and you have to jump through various hoops to prove who you are, and can get stuck in bureaucratic hell.
  And given that the United States has record levels of homelessness, this increasingly disenfranchises a larger and larger population of voters every year.
  Let's not even talk about the current administration weaponizing bureaucracy to deny rights and access to people who they view unfavorably. Which will further disenfranchise voters even if they are capable and have documentation.
  
  Providing ID to vote is quite normal in most countries. Getting an ID also costs money in most countries. That's not unique to the US.
- Imagine a woman being born a Smith. She marries a Jones and changes her name and license. Her birth certificate is still Smith. She will be required to have the same name on her BC and License. She will have to choose and change one of them at her expense.
  
  I don't quite follow the last part. "She will have to choose and change one of them at her expense"
  Obviously you need to update your license if you change your name.
  So she can update her BC to match her new name? Or is that impossible, thus making her unable to vote because of it.
- We make people pay to get an ID partially because it's outsourced in many states to private companies.
  
  Privatization doing its best work here...
- I think many states require you already to provide an ID to vote. ID/Drivers license aren’t free.
  I believe what they passed now, the SAVE Act, results in additional identification like a Birth Certificate or Passport. You have to prove citizenship in some manner. If you got married your last name won’t match your birth certificate, I’ve read of that being used as an example for reason to deny voting access.
  I personally feel this is a waste of time and money to implement and will just be used for voter suppression.
  Among the most notable changes outlined in the bill is the requirement to prove U.S. citizenship before registering to vote. Acceptable documents will include a birth certificate, U.S. passport, naturalization paperwork and certain versions of the Real ID that indicate citizenship.
  (https://www.npr.org/2024/10/11/nx-s1-5147732/voter-fraud-explainer)

4 out of 213 (1 not voting and 208 Nay) Democrats
and 216 (4 not voting and 0 Nay) Republicans.
Let's be clear about this, if anybody tries to blame the entire DNC over this they're morons complicit with the GOP.
EDIT: LINK for the curious

"The SAVE Act passed 220–208"
It was going to pass regardless, better blame 4 Democrats...
- Doesn't matter if it was always going to pass, Nazis are always going to Nazi, most of us know that and understand that.
  What does matter that there are four Democrats that help the Nazis keeping on Nazing and shows how ineffective Democrats are in being the opposition.
- Each of these small betrayals, whether they are decisive or not, erode trust that voting for them matters at all. Surely you can see that?

Hopefully republicans are still more religious, more often married and therefore more affected by this stupid bill...

What has this country become, requiring ID to vote? What is this Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, France, Mexico, or Canada, most of Europe, most of South America, or Most of Asia?
- And these countries have compulsory voter registration and the onus of verifying a prerson's ability to vote is on the government, not the individual.
  Don't try to pretend that Republicans here are like Europe here buddy, if these assholes want to follow European style voter ID and government then by all means, do it. Otherwise take your disingenuous argument elsewhere.
- I have never once shown any form of ID to vote in Denmark in my 10 years of voting. Kindly fuck way off.
- These comments and reactions are so interesting to me. Like, who are you? If you're a progressive, you don't want more blocking for a citizen to vote. If you're a conservative, you don't want laws being passed that aren't necessary and add to the government's control.
  There is absolutely no on-going problem with voter fraud. There is absolutely no reason for this to be a problem for any legislative body to be focusing on. But, you and other commenters always have the same response, "Well, country (A,B,C) do it, what's the big deal?"
  Like wtf is the big deal to begin with? It never starts with that, it's "what problem do you have with this extra legislation that isn't needed?"
  EVEN ONE PERSON NOT BEING ABLE TO VOTE BECAUSE OF THIS IS A PROBLEM TO ME! ONE PERSON BEING DISENFRANCHISED FROM RUNNING DOWN TO THEIR LOCAL ELECTIONS TO VOTE BECAUSE OF A REQUIREMENT THEY CAN'T REACH IS A FUCKING PROBLEM FOR ME!
- The problem is the requirements around it that prevents people from voting. If the US actually had a good piece of ID it would be a non issue, it doesn't.
  Also, you can vote in Canada without a piece of ID.

Everyone who changed their name, not just women
Are we seriously complaining that requiring ID with your current name on it is unreasonable?
- Did you read the article? Did you read the law? ID is not sufficient for proof of citizenship. Your birth certificate is your proof of citizenship, and if you were married and took your spouses name, then your name does not match your ID. You must at this point apply for a US Passport. Many citizens of the US, especially poorer citizens, do not have one because they have never traveled. And, I hear there can be long lead times to getting one, because the infrastructure is not in place to support processing the quantities of passports that we would need if every American citizen now needs one. So, are we going to stop firing federal workers so that we can get everyone documented proof now so they can vote?
  
  I've read it. Americans find a way to make everything as divisive and as convoluted as possible to the point it's not even possible to discuss. Other countries have long solved these problems. I can't even find a coherent description of the US voting process but it's clearly not just women who are affected.
- A birth certificate? Yes. What’s wrong with a driver’s license?
  
  Non-citizens can attain a drivers license, so republicans believe there is the chance non-citizens might sneak there vote past unsuspecting poll workers.

This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.