2d ago

Israel walks back its account of the killing of 15 medics in Gaza after video seems to contradict it

The military initially said it opened fire because the vehicles were “advancing suspiciously” on nearby troops without headlights or emergency signals. An Israeli military official, speaking late Saturday on condition of anonymity in line with regulations, said that account was “mistaken.”

The footage shows the Red Crescent and Civil Defense teams driving slowly with their emergency vehicles’ lights flashing, logos visible, as they pulled up to help an ambulance that had come under fire earlier. The teams do not appear to be acting unusually or in a threatening manner as three medics emerge and head toward the stricken ambulance.

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Video evidence forcing a backtrack? Sounds like the truth only comes out when they’re caught red-handed.
- The truth didn't even come out. It was "We will investigate ourselfs" type response. And the U.S. will continue supplying this state with the weapons to carry this out.

How nice. After it turns out Israel lied about executing 15 ambulance personell they can "walk back their statement".

They targeted these medics. They targeted the world kitchen people. How much longer are those with the ability to do something gonna tolerate this?
- Tolerate? The "people with the ability to do something", by definition, would have done something if they wanted to. The powerful pursue their interests, just like everyone else. You can either get them to change their minds about what "the goal" is, or you change the people in power for some who align with the population. We should come up with a cool name for this crazy concept, like what if we used the Greek words for "people" and "power"‽
  
  Youre right. That wasn’t the best phrased. Not “tolerate” …”actively encourage and not give a shit about”…
- Forever, unless they start attacking outside of Palestine no one is going to do anything. Especially since Isreal is one of the US' favorite murder toys
  
  They have already launched attacks in Lebanon and Syria.
- Reminds me of a quote from Hogfather (1996):
  Maybe someone said, hey, how’d you like to hunt this evil bastard of an eagle with his big sharp beak and great ripping talons, sort of thing, or how about instead you hunt this wren, which is basically about the size of a pea and goes “twit”? Go on, you choose.
- How much longer are those with the ability to do something gonna tolerate this?
  Until the costs to themselves outweigh the benefits. Otherwise why not tolerate it? Even the word tolerate implies that it bothers them beyond a minor PR issue. Normal people need to gain the ability to think like sociopaths if they want to understand them.

"seems to contradict it"
come on. Why cant we all just admit they flat out lied to get away with a war crime, same as always.

These morons should have learned this lesson from Russia - cell phone cameras are really good at exposing your bullshit.

Fascists always lie. Zios are no exception.
- Understanding that Zionists are fascists is probably the thing that let me understand why they do the things they do. The extent of their depravity, sometimes comical scheming, projection and of course all the damn lying make perfect sense when you realize that they're just Nazis with a Jewish makeover.
  
  Zionazis, if you will
  Edit: I hadn't heard this word before, but figured if I thought of it someone else beat me to it, and sure enough it's been around for a while. Turns out it's considered antisemitic, but I think if the jack boot fits...

Thing is even if they admitted it no-one would do anything about it. Why the wasted effort?
- It's not wasted at all, this is textbook Shock Doctrine (Naomi Klein, 2007). This is Steve Bannons's "flood the zone" strategy that Trump is currently following.
  The lies will be believed by dedicated Zionists. Paid Hasbara trolls will be repeating these lies forever.
  For most news consumers, the story will come across muddled, confused, and open to personal interpretation. From their low-information perspective, a conclusion of "both sides" seems reasonable.
  And for those who are paying attention and have a strong sense of morality, this will be one more battle we will have to repeatedly fight. We will have to expend time and energy to fight this lie, and it is just one of many.

Just another day for Israel.

Every fucking time evidence comes out of some incident, it completely contradicts what they said before.
I'm starting to think they might have a problem telling the truth.

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The reason they give for shooting ambulances is that Hamas has used ambulances to move soldiers.
"On December 19, 2024, soldiers from the 'Duvdevan' unit (Israeli military) took part in an operational mission to detain terrorists in Nablus. During the operation, an ambulance-like vehicle was used for operational purposes, without authorisation and without the relevant commanders' approval."
- Sounds like the Israeli moved soldiers in ambulances, if you read your own quote.
- I think your trying to show that Israeli military committed a war crime but you look like your accusing Hamas of doing the war crime. You got a edit that comment bruv, it's a mess.
- Reading comprehension ain't for everyone
  Edit just in case you think you read it right here sky news on the war crime https://news.sky.com/story/idf-admits-serious-offence-after-using-vehicle-marked-ambulance-in-raid-in-which-a-grandmother-was-killed-13288120
  
  Reading comprehension.
  Reading fucking comprehension.
  I bring up the time IDF used an ambulance during a raid, that time they killed a grandma, in response to the IDF saying they shot these people because terrorists use ambulances... and people think I'm defending Israel.
  Reading comprehension. Come on guys, say it with me. Reading comprehension!
- Come on bruv, they even literally say it's Israeli military
- Half your thought is still in your head. When you read this to yourself, it sounds like what you intended to say. When everyone else reads it, we are still missing context.
  
  The missing context is in the article. If people read it and remembered current events they too would find it utter bullshit that their excuse was "Enemy soldiers use ambulances." And then my comment would naturally follow.
- I don't know if I should report this for obvious misinformation or leave it because it's hilarious.
  
  Are you fucking stupid? I'm saying Israel kills people for using ambulances, and then bringing up the time Israel used an ambulance and killed a grandma.

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