Ads are a plague

The NCAP score for these should be -5, no way that is safe!

Just buy an old Japanese Honda or Toyota and keep it running forever. No one needs a "new" cat at this point.
Edit: car not cat but leaving it for lols.
- Fr, they scratch up your furniture too
  
  Doh!

I just bought a Toyota and they locked a lot of features behind an app with a monthly fee, absolute fucking pricks. The whole auto industry is going to shit.
- Seeing as cars and computers are increasingly shared platforms, where is the car-hacking community? As distinct from the car-optimizing or car-modding communities.
  
  Modern cars, I think because of safety laws and "trade secrets", can be quite a pain the reverse engineer. It's notoriously difficult to even interface with any of the chips in any of the onboard computers in the first place, let alone reverse engineer what's going on and modify it. On top of that some car companies, like Toyota, are starting to add HMACs to all the messages they send on the CAN bus, so even if you did figure out everything, unless you get the signing keys every message will be ignored. On top of that, it'll void your warrant, which I know some people don't care about, but for a new car that you are having to depend on, its another hurdle.
  
  where is the car-hacking community?
  In jail
- Join and/or fund Right to Repair advocacy organizations people. For my fellow Canadians: check out CanRepair, they are currently registering members and will have their first ever AGM March 18
- What things are subscription?
  
  https://lemmy.world/comment/15350150
- What did they lock behind the paywall?
  
  The main things that bother me are maps, remote start (which can be done from the keys but it's a pain in the ass). When you start the vehicle a screen comes up that asks you to subscribe for maps, and then Android auto connects like 50% of the time and randomly disconnects when you are driving.
  There's a bunch of other little features that are mostly convenience things, but I bought the vehicle, and I understand they have to run some infrastructure but it's not much and I could just connect through wifi or Bluetooth and they wouldn't have to run any infra.
  https://support.toyota.com/s/article/Subscription-Plans?language=en_US
  Also, it's $15 a month which is a rip off. If it was $20 a year, thats annoying, but it's more tolerable. $15 a month to be able to use the maps that are built in is a crime.
  The big ass screen is worthless unless I'm using Android auto.

I can deal with ad when watching TV or YouTube. But ads in the car, even while stopped, is just begging for someone to get killed. Will never even consider getting a jeep. I'm probably gonna have to get a new car in a couple of years and I want something new, but dumb. I want as little smart shit as possible, which is probably not going to be a thing.
- I can deal with ad when watching TV or YouTube.
  i can't! i really hate ads, they're so loud and obnoxious, they're like jump scares every time they come on! ugh! this car would be like my idea of a nightmare!
  
  Those are full page ads with audio. It's amazing how you can disregard that.
  
  I use ad breaks in vids to answer texts/emails or take a piss or whatever. Intrusive ads that take up entire pages on a site are the worst tho. Those can fuck off.
- Agreed. Designing in a feature that presents users with something that's deliberately designed to be as distracting and attention grabbing as possible during a time when they should have their undivided attention on driving is asking for trouble.
  On that note, LED billboards run up along the side of roads should be illegal and at very least have dimmers to prevent them from blinding drivers at night.
- There’s still Caterhams and Ginettas.
  Although on second thoughts they’re probably not allowed in a country where the inhabitants can’t be trusted with a Kinder surprise egg.
- The ads aside, nothing from the Stellantis family should be on your radar anyway
  
  But I quite like the latest Maserati.
- Get an old Jeep 40s-2001 were prim- ya know what don't get an old Jeep. I don't want the competition.
- How hard up for money could they possibly be? It's such an insane move.

Stellantis? More like Stale Anus

The best thing about Saint Luigi is that one doesn't have to endorse an incel eco-fascist like Teddy K to call for "direct action."

"Wanna be furious every time you stop?"
"BUY A JEEP."
- *BONUS ongoing electrical problems AND rust
  
  It really makes me sad, jeeps used to be awesome till Chrysler started getting bought out, around 2000. It was like when the AMC 4.0 and the Chrysler 318 went, so went Jeep.
  Yes, they are inefficient, and slow, that's not the point, you could offroad in a ZJ with 250k miles on it and be ok.

Turning everything you use into a fucking ads platform is peak capitalism. Burn it with fire.
- everything you ~~use~~ own
  Consumer already paid for the damn vehicle. At least market that ad-bullshit as the cheaper freemium rental version and offer a no ads purchase version... They are not at all thinking about the consumer, only about filling their ever growing pockets.

We need laws on how intrusive ads are allowed to be. Advertising is out of control. Personally, whenever I see an ad too many times, I make sure to avoid purchasing that item or anything from that company. You're trying too hard to sell me junk.
- "how intrusive" ?
  We need laws to ban any sort of tracking, profile generation, etc.
  Bring back contextual ads. If I'm on a gaming website show me a gaming ad ffs.
- Ban advertising entirely.
  
  Vandalize ads where safe to do so.
  
  But then line stops going up, or *shutters at the thought, it could go down
  
  Ok, honest question: In a world where all advertising is banned, how do I know who makes something I want/need?
  Like, is a website you find in a search result an ad? Is putting something in your local Yellow Pages an ad?
  Maybe we need to qualify "No advertising" with something?
  
  Hear hear
- "You know all those fake games you keep seeing?! We turned it into a real one that you can actually play! Oh, maybe I can get this machine gun!"
  Bro, stop. No. Also, fuck you advertisers.
- True. Also we need to regulated the spaces that the ads can occupie. Or the possibility that "sky is a billboard" might happen becomes too high
- Same here. Also if the add is : giving an horrible child candy / do they think i am stupid talking / 'real' examples

Careful with ol Ted there, all his good points were accidental, dude bombed university offices because he heard a plane fly over in the woods.

Everytime
Not a word. Nice journalism grad.
- What is and is not a word? If it's being used by writers, and is understood by readers, it kinda is a word.
  Linguistics is a desceiptive field, not a prescriptive one.
- I'm seeing very simple grammatical mistakes in articles more and more. It's bizarre. Even if the author makes a mistake, where are the editors? Do we have a shortage of English majors somehow?
  
  It only matters that ads get impressions. That's it
- I thonk this one is pretty forgivable. Everytime should be a word imo. It has a lot more justification than some of the words that have recently been added and accepted into common use and vernacular. Everywhere, everyone, everyday, everybody are all words and set a hell of a precedent. How is everytime different, besides being a poster word for pedants to pick at.
- Lang shift has snuck up on us, tsk.

Wait until Musk gets permission to use their Neuralink chips world wide!
- With the opposition he's facing in the EU, no matter how safe it'll be (lol), it'll never be introduced.

Is this real? I'd jail break my car immediately if this happened.
- I'd take it back and demand a full refund. This is a dangerous, irresponsible product that does not fulfil the purpose it was marketed for.
  
  How do you prove any of those points for a return? Presumably they don't show anything while in motion and it does drive so how does it not fulfill its purpose?
  Instead, you can return it in 6 months when the engine is blown because it's a piece of Stellantis garbage.
- Yes, its real
  https://slashdot.org/story/438631
- yep, the good thing about capitalism is we can now watch the capital pivot away from jeep 😃
  
  Like when everyone pivoted away from gas stations that play ads on the screens? People will keep buying their emotional support SUVs, they don't care.

It ain't right.
But i also don't get why people are still buying Jeeps? Most cursory search while doing research for a new vehicle should bring up red flags quick.
- It’s a kink thing you wouldn’t understand
  
  So... masochism?
  
  No, that's an engine knock
- They wave to each other! Owners of Jeeps wave to each other, as if you say, "look we're both suckers together." Look up Jeep owners waving.
  
  They give each other ducks....
- You're making the mistake of viewing a car as a reliable means of transport and not a way to show off how cool and rugged you are.

I would never buy a jeep anyways, but thanks for the warning,
- I'm not buying Jeeps... But harder now.

Just Stellantis doing Stellantis things.

Reason 2378 to never buy a Stellantis vehicle

Maybe pull the fuse for internet

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Somewhat related to how bad it is at that company right now:
Yesterday my brother and I drove by a brand new Jeep Wrangler (had a new car plate) that looked like a 24 or 25 that was burnt to the ground from the engine (my guess as the burning was much worse there than the cabin.) Emergency services were there still putting water on the engine bay but the ambulances were already gone. Hopefully everyone is okay.
- It's a trend with jeeps. I already know 2 people that have had the burnt Jeep phenomenon
  
  Damn, that sucks. Hope they're all okay!
  
  It's the only way to get your money back.

Did it happen during the test drive before buying?
- I guarantee that dealerships will disable that shit until it goes home, and then somehow it won't qualify under the lemon law.

"Hi I'm here about your cars extended warranty..."