After Trudeau's resignation, Trump doubles down on the 51st state idea.

Happy new year 2025...

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It was a subtle declaration of war the first time he brought it up. After repeating it a dozen more times, we really shouldn't be ignoring this as a country.
The United States under Trump is a foreign threat with hostile intentions.
- I better hit the gym and get back in shape just in case...
  
  Hit the ripper and upgrade your chrome, choom.
  
  I've been losing weight all winter so far by fasting. Built a home gym out of used stuff off locals. Next is navigating that whole gun ownership thing I ignored my whole adult life thus far, and signing up for training. My mom's friend teaches at a Canadian Tire that has a gun range.
  I'm getting prepared for hard times, whatever they bring. Hopefully not the USA invades Canada scenario. We'd get rolled.
- He literally just said he wants to take over Canada by "economic force", I wish any articles included the full quote/context though.
  At this point anyone advocating for or supporting Trump in Canada is guilty of high treason against Canada.
  https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca/national/trump-threatens-to-use-economic-force-to-make-canada-51st-state/article_157f3b30-d8e7-5e49-8e10-a1b39d680c16.html
  
  minor ancedote, high treason is a term reserved for people already within the government or positions of authority. *

Trump can get fucked. I'll fight tooth and nail before we become a 51st state.
- Start learning how to resist his nonsense now. With Trudeau's resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.
  The fuckery is about to ramp up.
  
  With Trudeau’s resignation lil pp has adopted an election stance.
  Oh, it's been going on for a while.
  I can't find it right now, but there was a graph posted a few weeks ago showing how much the CPC outspent the other parties on campaign advertising in 2024. It was astounding.
  
  I think all parties have at this point...
- Me too. I don't want to be a part of the U.S.
- I'll do what I can to help from the US side!
- I think it’s time you accept your orange overlord
  
  No. I won't. Fight me. 💪

If the US is willing to adopt a Westminster parliamentary system, the Canadian charter of Rights, official bilingualism (or, well, trilingualism, because Spanish) and give up silly ideas like the 2nd Amendment and life tenure of SC justices, something could be worked out. What do you mean no?
- Don't forget health care.
- (Charter of rights is a sham, nothing in it but removable privileges, it's very obvious the person who wrote it wasn't much for actual rights, and legal scholars back then decried this)

That stupid Nazi fuck may discover just how vicious Canadians can get when defending their country.
- It's not a war crime the first time...
  
  And damn if we aren't ready to be great authors of the next Geneva convention update
- I just hope we don't get to that point.
- If that were true, it wouldn't be the mess it is today.

There is little growth left in the US. The natural resources are allocated, the population rinsed for $2 for every $1 they earn. National debt runs at numbers that are practically unimaginable by humans.
What is an expansionist empire to do ?
It’s not coincidence he’s talking about Canada, Greenland in this way. The oligarchs have been going after Europe for a decade.
These aren’t the ramblings of an idiot . It’s Americas plan.
- Canada Mexico Panama Greenland now president Musk is talking about freeing the UK. America is on the war path it seems. I think the world is going to be blind sided by this. Europe should get off of US tech. Everything the US says about China is something they can do also.

I will say that I think a lot of people are about to get a taste for how much worse we can do than Trudeau.

It might happen if pollievre gets elected. Conservatives are little America worshippers.
- The Bloc Québécois might start getting elected outside Québec to form its own country... with other provinces.
  
  You know, I would consider them if they ran outside of Quebec. Francophone issues make no difference either way to me.

Don’t feed the trolls! He’s only repeating this because it got attention the last time he spewed this bs.

I like how he says "Many people in Canada LOVE being the 51st state", where did he get that? any polls he did recently?
Let him talk as much he want, nothing he can do IMO.
- Those are meaningless questions to ask someone like Trump. It doesn’t matter and never will matter where he gets the statement. He just needs to never admit that he pulled that out of his ass, and accuse every fact checker of political bias or lying. Those are the rules in his playbook.
- He is manufacturing your consent for the takeover.
  
  Anglo FLQ is going to be interesting.
- It's the same reason that Russia used for invading Ukraine and China is using for it's threats of invading Taiwan...
  We really need to stop laughing at this.
  
  This.
  Dictators love to pretend they are a saviour and use that pretext to invade and mutder
- "Many" equals literally thousands
  
  Thousands of idiots who would sell out their family for a red hat. all because they're mad about bathroom signs.
  if push came to shove, those people would be taken care of pretty violently.

I hope you realize that by posting this ignoramus' nonsense you are actively a part of the problem.
If you don't, this is me telling you to stop being an active part of the problem by posting this ignoramus' nonsense.

It's getting to the point where I don't think dicking around on internet forums is good enough. Every time trump repeat the phrase "51st state" it gets a little more serious. We need to start organizing irl like, yesterday.
- Bet you don't though.
- Yeah. We have to start having discussions with our family and relatives. We can't keep politics out of conversations anymore. Anyone who plans to vote conservative needs to be convinced otherwise.
- I hate how vague that always is. Specific ideas: Join the military, annoy your MP, volunteer for a political party. If it's America that we're worried about none of the edgelord stuff applies anyway.
  
  I'm thinking more along the lines of we might not be able to trust our government (and therefore military) to do the right thing, independent of who wins the election.
  It would be wise to put together some type of organization (reserve militia?) to be prepared for that contingency.
- If only anyone had access to guns actually useful in an invasion. I wouldn't even face off against a herd of feral pigs with a legal gun. Have fun with a five shot pinned SKS or an old bolt action 308 facing off a military

He obviously hasn’t thought it through. As one state, with a proportionate number of congressmen and electoral college votes, Canada would end up as the anti-Texas, dragging the political centre of gravity well into a Democratic majority. A Trumpist annexation would have to split Canada into two states, Alberta and the rest, as to gerrymander the outcome.
- Assuming they have the grace to make us all citizens and allow us to vote. I'm not holding my breath.
  
  At least we'd be a state unlike poor Puerto Rico
  
  Don't worry I think that pesky voting process is a thing of the past.
- canada as a state and voting left, all else the same wrt u.s. presidential election process...
  canada would have two senators, increasing the senate to 102 members. and in a reapportioned house, receive 44 seats, 'taking' 5 from california; 4 from tx; 3 from fl; 2 ea from il, ny, nc, pa; 1 ea from al, az, co, ct, ga, in, ks, ky, md, ma, mi, mn, mo, mt, ne, nj, oh, or, ri, sc, tn, va, wa, wi.
  using 2024 state results (note: figuring ne and me would basically cancel each other out anyway and to keep my 2-minute spreadsheet simple, i just left those two states all-or-nothing), and assuming the great commonwealth of canada, now a u.s. state, would vote left....
  looks like it woulda been 287 for r, 253 for d; with 271 needed to win.
  just adding a state doesn't change how electoral college votes are distributed, it's still heavily skewed in favor of low-pop states because states get equal representation in the senate regardless of population. remember each member of congress.. that's house + senate.. gives their state one ec vote. that's why the hypothetical here doesn't change the overall outcome.
  if each province became a state instead.. things might get 'interesting', then.
  
  Don't forget the territories
- If Canada agreed to become the 51rst state, by that time it'd be Texas.
- You mean that country that regularly elects Conservative majorities, with a lower overall population than California?

This, Greenland... What is Trump's obsession with trying to get more territory? Is he trying to start a war with someone? Does he think if the country is at war he can postpone the next election?
Or is he just copying daddy Putin? Insisting ~~Ukraine~~ Canada wants to be part of ~~Russia~~ the US and that makes it okay to go "Liberate" Canada...
- They’re physically large territories so the map looks very impressive, especially with the Mercator projection.
  This is the man who redirected a hurricane with a sharpie. I don’t think there’s any more to it.
- Putin's his master and handler. If the United States throws the high ground away and starts gobbling up neighbouring nations, it becomes that much easier to say "the West does it too".
- @cyborganism@lemmy.ca
  Maybe Canada will give the bankers and stock traders more thievingsraum?
  In essence Trump is trolling, and people are falling for it. The distraction campaign is working.
  This 'outrage' trolling is being used as a starting point for constant recycling of political and economic talking points.
  
  Even if he's trolling, when you're THE world military and economic superpower and you're making such statements about a country's sovereignty, you have to take this shit seriously. In addition, he's clearly making fun of Canada for not being a military and economic superpower like them. And that's a clear display of his psychopathic personality. Not sociopathic, but psychopathic. He seeks control over others. He thrives for it. He loves to make people run around and sit and beg. And when he can't get what he wants, he lashes out at you.
  Psychopath.

Why are we giving a fuck about this guy?
- Because he is taking the helm of the most dangerous country of the West
  
  the world in 2025 is multitudes more dangerous and volatile than the world the last time he was here. thats the issue.
  We've seen an outbreak of inter-state war unlike anything since the 40s and 50s. With Russia and Ukraine And the rest of Europe, its the biggest state vs state conflict since Iran-Iraq in the 80s. and there are conflicts flaring up all over the world. Israel is going on a spree of settling every grudge they ever had, Syria as fallen, China is making final preparations for Taiwan, Azerbaijan looks like its going to invade Armenia, War is the hot topic of the 2020s.
  Trump is an isolationist, if the world is going down in flames, he thinks it's not unreasonable to suggest consolidating control over North America, just cuz.
  
  And we know exactly what he is about. They're just fueling the facist fire. There is a point where it becomes just more propoganda and that has happened long ago. This article has come up in CBC at least 3 times in the past several weeks.
- Because, believe it or not, we can't just toss these statements like they don't matter. The leader of a world superpower, both military and economically, is threatening our sovereignty.
  
  No he isn't. He is directing our political choices as he does, with statements that enrage and divide.
  Edit: and it's obviously working.
- internet and tv rotted peoples brains, been that way for about 10-15 years now. people cant help themselves

Funny, when he recently was announced to be changing political roles I drug out of storage and doubled down on a Never Buy or Vacation in USA idea.

US deficits/debt are too high to be sustainable. Low taxes come with high health insurance costs. The threat of Russia/China has always been complete BS, but they are not "surrounding us constantly"
The best reply to this asshole would be to openly talk of US states joining Canada as a province. Or to have a constitutional convention with 50 states to decide which 2 countries to form.
We can also offer to trade with China/Russia/others more to lower any trade surpluses we have with US.
- I wouldn't trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine. And China would simply flood our market with their stuff and ruin us.
  
  I wouldn’t trade with Russia since they are involved in the invasion of the Ukraine.
  Believing Russia instigated war is a lie that make Canadians worse than a 51st state. We are a NATO colony. Canadian media discussion of responses to this is that "we need to desperately buy more (3% of gdp) broken F35s to defend the Arctic, and be the front line on war on China" and futher acts of pure sycophancy.
  Canadians trusting our CIA allegiant colonial figurehead politicians and media is core to our subservience. Defense pacts with other nuclear powers is best way to have US focus on US-Canada mutual prosperity instead of their destruction and collapse. 51st state, even with the minimal democratic representation that exists in a corrupt US, while less subservient than our current role, also condemns Canada to a worse collapse than US's destiny. We need to be a brake on US empire instead of the willing sacrifice to the last Canadian that the CIA wants us to accept.

You know, I never thought I would be praising Fallout for its prescience in predicting the future.

I'm 2020 52% of Puerto Ricans who voted said yes to joining the United States as a full fledged state. What about them, they actually want to be a part of this shithole country.
- They already are, technically. They just don't have a voice on who their leader can be.

Le Anschluss?

Trudeau resigned from the most powerful position in the country solely to not have to deal with that orange buffoon's BS one second more than he has to.
- Bullshit. I firmly believe that no one in Trudeau's organization cares one whit about that troll, nor would feed it if given a chance.
  Trudeau bailed because of internal trolling from the same 'mean girl' opposition which has focused more on his appearance than anything else this entire time, which has been building the misinformation campaign that WILL influence voting.
  Essentially, he bailed so the scumbag cons had less to distract us from the issues, like the horribly American platform the cons are offering, as usual. Only by focusing the message on that can we convince the facebook-addicted hillbillies to actually vote IN their own best interests instead of electing conservatives.
  
  I still have little hope for Saskatchewan.
  
  Sorry there is no way the liberals or ndp win the next election.
- That could have played a big part in his decision. But he's also very unpopular across Canada. He's hoping they might choose a new face that the people will love, but I doubt it would solve anything at this point.

I feel like Canada would be too big as a singular state, we should break it up and have many new states based on provinces. We'll call Quebec New France.
Greenland can be just one state though, we won't have to divy the land up until all the ice melts and that.
- Québec will remain Québec, thank you.
  It already has a name. No need to give it some colony sounding name.
  Québec would probably break off, taking the Maritimes and big parts of Ontario with it. Maybe even Vermont.
  
  Depends on what fills the void now that Trudeau has stepped down.

Remember, folks, those “subsidies” he’s talking are simply the result of an idiot looking at his country relying so much on importing our oil and other resources that they spend more to buy our stuff than they get from selling their own shit. He thinks that the U.S. is so perfect and awesome that there’s no way they could possibly be beholden to another country like this so obviously it means that they’re giving away money.
Canada has the control here, not those losers.

He’s a turd. That is all.

Who cares anymore? Federal government destroyed any idea of patriotism west of Ontario and east of the lower mainland a long time ago. Pursuing "post national state" wankery has consequences.

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