6mo ago

I'm Greganent?

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There was a theory that roughly 15 years after Roe v Wade crime started decreasing because people who weren't ready for or didn't want children could now have an abortion. Many of those kids that were previously born "unwanted" were in poor households and so the kids getting to about 15 years old in those conditions would start getting into trouble and start committing crimes.
For any fuckwit that says "make better decisions then! Use protection!" I'm the result of a broken condom, that shit absolutely happens. I was a "pleasant surprise." Honestly I wish they'd have just had the abortion.
- My sister had her first child because her birth control failed due to another medication making it less effective.
  No one warned her about that being a thing that can happen with that particular med. Not her doctor. Not the pharmacist. No one said a thing.. which is super fucked up. She was married at the time, but still. They were not ready for a kid(their words)
  This was almost 20 years ago so I don't remember which med it was, and I'm hoping the medical community is better about this now.
  
  It's really honestly amazing that there are so many people in this world that don't understand that, A, married couples use birth control and have regular sex and, B, that birth control can fail.
  Are they all incels are something?
  
  "Your child its a miracle from god!" - anti abortionists
  
  Unfortunately, a lot of people who are under the influence of religion believe that marriage is for creating children, and many of those people received very little to no sex ed.
  The ideas that "every child is a blessing" and "God will provide" are used to handwave away the importance of people's bodily autonomy and to deflect the reality that people can and should have access to the resources to chose if, when and how many children they have.
  I've taken to calling them reproductive luddites. They're afraid of contraceptive technology.
  
  PSA: Antibiotics will make your birth control less effective.
  Also no they do not warn most people about that.
  
  I thought I read that grapefruit can also cause problems with certain ones
  
  Wait a moment, antibiotics will break condoms? /s
  
  I have been called a weirdo many times for always reading the information that comes with medications. I still do, even for stuff i have taken many times like Tylenol.
  Of course doctors and pharmacists should inform their patients and have an eye on these things. But the full legally required known documentation is always with the medication. And humans are prone to error, especially in a field as complex as medicine/pharma.
  Read the things before starting the medication. Always.
  
  I read them too after what happened to my sister.
  However, I think that certain types of side effects(life altering ones Tardive dyskinesia) and medications that are known to mess with hormonal birth control should have their own little text box right on the front where people can clearly see it.
  Throwing a long ass pamphlet in there and calling it informed consent doesn't really cut it for me. There's a lot of room for improvement.
- It doesn't get brought up because it's not useful to anyone politically. Already support abortion rights? Well then lower crime rates is just a positive unintended side effect of a policy that grants women their inherent right to bodily autonomy. Already oppose abortion rights? Then you probably don't care about crime rates because you already think that abortion itself is a crime.
  
  Probably not, but I just thought it was interesting to bring up in relation to young age births that may or may not have been intentional.
- I fail to see how this crime fighting measure involves more cops, guns and racism so I don't think you'll be able to convince the "tough on crime" "pro life" GOP supreme court on this.
- Detailed in Freaknomics where Romania is used as an example.
- Honestly I wish they'd have just had the abortion.
  Asafum, I don't know you, but I am almost certain the world is a better place with you in it.
  Hope you encounter a nice autumn breeze (assuming from the instance) or a nice whatever you like this week. Despite, I agree, the world being a bit of a hole in general.
  Me, I've been enjoying the sun on the leaves this spring.
  Kind regards, This Australian anon
  
  I appreciate the kind words! I was pleasantly surprised to find my phone has an astrophotography mode so I've been trying to enjoy that on clear nights :)
  
  Oh that sounds neato, thanks for sharing friend
- A debunked theory
  
  Absolutely not, Slovakia saw the same thing. When abortion was strictly outlawed, crime skyrocketed in 18 years due to children being born in awful conditions.
  The prolife movement is a probirth movement only. Because they don't give a fuck about the kid after birth.
  Edit: Romania not Slovakia
  
  I think you may have the wrong country. I can't find anything about a complete abortion ban in Slovakia (except for a rejected proposal in 2020), nor a sharp increase in crime, apart from that following promptly after the overthrow of the communists.
  
  You're right it wasn't Slovakia but I know it was one of the countries that formed a theocracy after communism fell. I wanna say Yugoslavia or Slovenia. One of those countries.
  Found it, it was Romainia. My mistake.

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