5mo ago

Sony Delists Original Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, Forces PSN Requirement for Remaster

www.ign.com Sony Delists Original Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, Forces PSN Requirement for Remaster - IGN

Sony’s controversial PlayStation Network requirement for its PC games is once again in the spotlight after the company delisted the original Horizon Zero Dawn on Steam and the Epic Games Store and added the PSN requirement to the upcoming single-player remaster.

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5mo ago

Sony Delists Original Horizon Zero Dawn on PC, Forces PSN Requirement for Remaster

www.ign.com /articles/sony-delists-original-horizon-zero-dawn-on-pc-forces-psn-requirement-for-remaster

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They're really digging in on this shit, huh? Here's hoping enough people pass on their games because of it that Sony regrets the decision.
- I remember being "sorry" for doing so to Helldivers 2 🤣
  
  Nah, they said sorry, they didn't do anything different. They still restricted the purchase regions of the game to those that can get PSN. I expect a return of the PSN requirement for Helldivers 2 eventually.

I knew Sony would double down on this shit. They always make these stupid business decisions.
- It's sad because they actually had a fairly decent run with their PC ports until now.
  
  The ports itself are good. It's the suits are fucking shit up. Typical capitalism enshittification story.
  
  Wow, I was going to argue by bringing up the atrocious performance of The Last of Us, but looking at reviews, it seems all its major issues got fixed.
- Nahhh, not like they have a history of being shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ
  
  We are talking about the company that installed rootkit back in the age of CDs.

Wait a minute.
WHY TF IS HORIZON ZERO DAWN GETTING AN REMASTER!?!?!
WHAT IS THE POINT? What stupid idiot thought this was a good idea????
And that bloody price tag! €50 for accessibility features and slightly better performance? Why... Why is this a successful way to make money? ... I... I'm sad now.
- Because if they remaster it, they can also remaster the price.
  Which is probably why they've pulled all the old versions.
  
  I think they are actually asking, "if this is such an obviously stupid move, and there aren't enough stupid people to buy the game, why would Sony even bother working on this?".
  Either the costs were incredibly low, or they figure they will profit off the data they collect enough to make up for it, in my opinion.
- I'd pay $10 to forget facial animations of the original one.
  
  I've got a bat. It may take a few tries, and you might forget some other things, but you get what you pay for.

Edit: Looks like the game is still on GOG without PSN requirment.
- Sadly, based on reviews for the game on GOG, while the game is technically DRM-free (in that it doesn't Emily any of the traditional DRM like Denuvo), it still requests either full or limited data collection.
  
  It requests it but doesn't require it. True, you need to select "limited" or "full" but you could just disable the network or firewall it. I run it in a container without networking on linux mint and it works perfectly.

Kinda wanted to pick the game up at some point. Weird, I seem to have suddenly lost all interest. Huh.
- Get the original on GOG without DRM or forced PSN.
  
  Game still requires either full or limited data collection in order to play. It apparently asks you for permission after the intro cutscene.

Cool. I force a no-psn-requirement for games that I buy.
- There is no psn requirement for this game (on the gog version at least)

So glad I didn't buy any Sony PC port yet. I will pirate every single one of them.
- Just don't play them at all. Pirating still gives their games attention that will lead to extra sales when compared to a complete flop.
  
  I want to play them. Sony PC ports are objectively good games. Maybe you subjectively don't like some but you are a minority.
  They lost sales from me. Given time, I would probably buy all of them. I usually always buy games. I have 800 games on Steam.
  
  Problem is, the games are fun. Had a hell of a time with the second game, and unleashed the 100%er in me
  Edit: The games are genuinely high quality, with interesting and constantly evolving mechanics and often good stories. That's not something you see in big titles anymore.
  
  They are great games and I want to play them. Their pricing policies just suck.

Yo fucking ho my boys

Microsoft should find a way to capitalize on this. Sony is really fumbling here.
- Behold, the Xbox Series X Ultra for $899*
  *Charging cable sold separately
- I don't see how they could capitalize on this specific bullshit other than to just keep on keeping on and not joining Sony in requiring a new login for a service you, as a PC player, might not even give a shit about.
  Unless they can get away with porting Bloodborne to PC or something... 🤔
- Don’t they do it too? (I don’t know because I don’t have a PC)

Ok. I'll still play the game with no PSN. They'll just not get any money x it. 🤷‍♀️

This happens when there is a lack of competition. If MS didn’t shit the bed with xbox in this generation, Sony would be trying harder
- They're competing with PC now and simultaneously trying to turn this into a vector to convert people to PS5. It won't work, but the fact that there are PC versions at all show how they can't just do what they want with impunity.
  
  It'll be interesting to see what Sony will do considering they're not going to pull PC players to PS and PC ports open to door to piracy which is definitely going to increase with the PSN shit. I doubt the PSN data is so valuable they're just going to let people pirate their games. Either they're going to pull out the PC market to prevent piracy or they're going to get rid of the PSN for PC. The latter makes too much sense so it's probably going to be the former.
- I'm curious: How do you think someone "shit the bed" with xbox, when Gamepass is incredibly popular and successful?
  
  Sony has sold double the consoles this generation (60 vs 30 million I think). And the Series S is very unpopular with devs, increasing the complexity of developing games for Xbox to get just half the PS market.
  Game Pass is popular, but it’s just one stream of revenue, and a lot people are only using it on PC. Sony is selling consoles, 70 EUR games, and in addition their own subscriptions.
  I understand MS’s strategy, and maybe this was the best they could have done for this gen, but Sony and Nintendo is dominating console gaming, with MS lagging far behind.

Keep re-releasing it so I can not buy it again and again.

- Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft, ea, Activision/Blizzard, rockstar, Nintendo and Square Enix will never see a dime from me until they change face.
  I will never pay for anything they produce. it's all trash.
- For real, up until Horizon, I had never played a Sony game at all. What a shame. For them.

Now I don't feel so bad about buying it a few weeks ago and barely playing.

How does this differ from a forced Microsoft login in eg. Forza Horizon 4 or Halo?
- this is why
  
  Totally missed that part. That is nuts. Thanks
  
  Keep in mind that microsoft services are restricted in a lot of countries too.
  
  176 countries? wtf, why?

I never played this game; is it really so good that fans were clamoring for a re-release? What am I missing if anything?
Also, I may be misremembering when this was launched but isn't it a bit early for a re-master on this one?
- It's good, but not good enough that I would be willing to have DRM on it. And yeah, it's too new to have a remaster.

Why we need psn for offline game on PC ?

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