Kamala Harris statement on Trump's promise to end democracy

thank you harris and dems. this is much better than the "he's weird" approach. ratchet up the pressure on the fascism aspect, all the way up, and keep it there
- Why not both? "Weird" gets politically disengaged people to notice, then follow up with how a Trump or Republican facist presidency would be dangerous.
  
  It also doesn't get as pilloried as Hillary's "deplorables", even if she was right about that.
  
  good point. they have a lot of people of all ages who need to be addressed in their own language
- I am so glad Biden stepped down and Harris is actually running the campaign the Dems should have been running since 2016.
  
  I think Biden was the best person to run in 2020.
  His prior experience with the office + familiarity with world leaders is what allowed him to actually work from day one and also get NATO back together.
  Remember that trump didn't hand the power peacefully, was blocking intelligence reports and our relationship with our allies was in the shitter.
  Putin started to preparing to invade Ukraine in April 2021 (or at least that's when or intelligence noticed it), putin was certain that Biden won't be able to reunite West on time.
  All other 2020 candidates would need some time ramp up as they did not have the same experience.
- There's a multi-pronged approach here now.
- The "He’s weird" is the equivalent of "Doesn’t she look tired" in Doctor Who, when the Doctor decides to end a bad politician’s career. That sentence, as it starts spreading, destroys her career.
  This is what they aim for, and it’s meant for MAGAs, to crack them open.
- He's still hella weird though...

Also love that she’s factually calling him out as a criminal.
- I was hoping for 'convicted felon', but I'll take what I can get.
- He's just going to call her "lyin'" or "crooked" or something like that, so she might as well call him what he is...a criminal.
  It's that kind of tit-for-tat that you wouldn't get from Joe Biden, who was worried about looking polite and respectable. It just wound up making him look weak.
  
  I think the most streamlined nickname the lab-coat wearing neurons in his swollen, cancerous amygdala could come up with is "laffin'" and he had to fucking explain to the sheep he's trying to herd to he wanted it spelled.
  Flailing. Bigly.

I'll tell you all a secret:
Win this for us all and we can do almost the same thing. In four years we could make voting easier. We could collectively push to end gerrymandering and implement a fair and true foundation for a stronger and better system. If Trump and his cronies truly believe they can take down everything that has been built, I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals, working together towards a more positive future.
Let's pay to deliver our future and not get robbed to repeat the past.
- I bet we can begin building a better tomorrow through the action of each of us as individuals
  I'll bet we can do it by working together as groups.
  
  No OP, but yes, volunteer and get involved too!
  Here's one site to find volunteer opportunities around you (for campaign related opportunities and also things like climate action there)
  
  ...working together towards a more positive future.
  See? Teamwork!
- Yeah, but don't stop at Trump. Get the fuckers out of the House/Senate too. Vote against Trump-lite mayors, , councils, and civil positions. This doesn't mean always vote D, but stop letting insane candidates win via voter apathy, whatever the riding.
  Where you can, make a difference yourself. Run for HOA, school board, etc yourselves and get the power-tripping fucktards out.

I'm sure Republicans are all going on about how he's "just joking". Sure, that obviously was a joke but it's not like conservatives don't want exactly this – they always hide behind "it was just a joke maaaannn" when the heinous shit they say causes a negative reaction
- "it's just a joke man....... unless you're cool with it. In which case yeah we're totally serious"
  Kinda like joking about having a threesome with your significant other.
  
  Yup, "haha only joking. Unless…?"
  
  "I'm just Kiddin' like Jason... unless you gon' do it."
  -Cornell Haynes, Jr. (2002)
- It wasn't a joke, which we know because they doubled down after failing the 2020 electiom coup.
  Yes, they hide behind joking when they say heinous shit like mocking the military or the disabled. They also hide behind it when when they are open about wanting a dictatorship.
  
  Yes this is exactly what I meant. It was said in a manner that they can just claim it was a joke, even when it's clearly not
- It doesn't help that Trump's speeches are full of semi-coherent rambling and tangential sentence fragments, and that his entire style has always been to speak entirely in ridiculous hyperbole. It makes it easier for people to interpret statements in whatever way best fits their point of view, because you just get used to filling in the context and reducing his absurd claims down to a vague generality.
  I'm sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying "you won't have to vote" only meant that the next election won't have such high stakes because Trump will fix America's problems and yada yada yada.
  
  I'm sure Trump defenders will argue that he was saying "you won't have to vote" only meant that the next election won't have such high stakes because Trump will fix America's problems and yada yada yada.
  I despise the guy but I'm not sure how to say this without sounding like I support him...I honestly think this IS what I think he meant. The dude can't put together coherent sentences. Words just kind of fall out of his mouth.
  With that said, eliminating elections is definitely what his puppet masters want so it's kind of a moot point. This is their long game and Trump is just a piece of the puzzle.
- “He’s just joking”
  Uhhh, Maybe we shouldn’t have a joker as president?? Maybe vagueness is bad???
  
  Unfunny Donald
- Their interpretation is that he was trying to motivate a bunch of old Christians to come out and vote for him so he can fix all the problems with America, and then they can go back to not voting because it'll all be fixed.
  
  Christians voting for Trump...sigh.
  Look, I'm atheist. But...if you're claiming to be Christian and voting for Trump, what exactly are you worshiping?
  
  Thanks for sharing this interpretation. Assuming for a moment that was his actual intent in saying that (I watched the clip several times and I simply could not decipher his actual intent), I would suggest that it should still be essentially campaign-ending to say something so closely resembling a call for the end of elections once you are elected. People should be so repulsed by the idea that it makes all candidates feel obliged to speak carefully and clearly enough to avoid even the insinuation of saying such things.
  
  Ah right, that does sort of make sense
- Tom Cotton already said "he's joking"
  You can set your watch to this shit
- Refute anyone that says that "he's joking." He's not.

It's weird that I knew all this but it's way more chilling to have Harris' campaign tell us.
- They've realized that ignoring the face-eating-leopard doesn't work. Neither does giving it pets and the occasional soy-face.

Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account.
- America has a death penalty for treason(i think) Maybe use it if you gonna keep it on the books

Where was this posted? I want to be able to open the blue links! I just searched for it and found nothing. There's nothing in the official Whitehouse.gov Briefing Room page. There's nothing on Twitter from her official account (and shame on you for making me go to that shithole to look!)
- I had the same question. Apparently it was an email newsletter sent via the campaign website, "take action" section.
  Links in order
  Previously said https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bloodbath-loses-election-2024-rcna143746
  Termination https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
  A lot of people like https://time.com/6972022/donald-trump-transcript-2024-election/
  Dictator day one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0iAmz9iLM
  Watch https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490
  Vowed to end democracy https://x.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490
- Campaign material like this would not be on Whitehouse.gov

- It's gonna be interesting to watch Republicans turn on each other in the resulting power vacuum in their party.
  
  Unless they all coalesce around a younger, more smarter man with Trumps ideals.

Is 'Harris for President' directly connected to her? Or is it just an independent group?
- It's her campaign team.
  
  Good to know!

This is exactly the energy I want! Take him to task!

Hate to be picky but that isn't a Harris statement, it's a statement by an official of her campaign. Not that that she (and I) wouldn't agree

VOTE!

Yea, the more shit Trump says like this, the more money I send to Kamala's campaign.

Where did you find this statement OP?

They keep calling oligarchy a democracy.

Additionally, I will be voting Kamela, however I will continue to remind everyone that we don't actually vote for president. There's no need to advertise anything to us. We will all pretend voting for president as we are expected to.
I suggest that the campaigns find and focus on electors...you know, the actual real people who choose who our president and leader of the free world will be. They, out of their own freewill, and not due to our suggestive votes, will choose whoever paid them more. So purchase your presidential seat wisely!
As for the rest of us, I really do hope Kamela wins! I know my vote is 1000% completely just a suggestion for some asshole to vote Kamela. But I hope she wins. I also hope the Republican party keeps Trump around for a few more elections just to watch him grow....chi chi chi Chia! If he makes it to two more election years l'd be impressed and probably will feel sad for whoever has to push that sack of shit around on a wheelchair in the next few years.

Why do you guys trust these people that just are using things out of context?
- Not real context, but I imagine the mental gymantics are going: it will be such a tremendous presidency, incredibly great, really, that nobody will ever vote non-republican again. You won't need to vote anymore. Everyone else will do it for you.
  
  The context was that he is going to do such an amazing job that voting wont be important because things are so good. I get its silly, which it was probably meant to be, but obviously he was not claiming he was going to be dictator. Why would you believe he would claim that?
- Oh god I’m gonna love to see this pretzel get made.
  What exactly is out of context here?
  
  If I understand it right (I only read a comment claiming this he says that specifically for/to Christians that don't normally vote, trying to convince them to vote this one time. I keep planning to confirm this but have not taken the time to do so yet.
  Anyone have a link to this speech or his?
- Just a reminder when you see bad faith shit like this, report and block.
- We have four entire years of context. Trump isn't an unknown quantity by any stretch. We know what he wants to do, even if he wasn't saying these things.
  
  We have years of them writing bullshit headlines, why do you trust them when they lie over and over?
- What was the context?

I dunno, guys.
I feel like we pretty much nailed the ending of Democracy when the Democrats argued in court that they're a private corporation and don't have to honor primaries.
What we have isn't a democracy.
- I picture you typing this comment with a smirk and then taking a sip of coffee. Then to yourself you utter, "Hah! Got 'em", before you hit the save button.
  
  Are you saying you don't think that court case was relevant?
- BotH sIdES
- Man, how fun must it be to log into the internet dot com and try to convince those that you agree 95% with not to vote against the people you disagree 95% with, or throw their vote away.
  
  At this point I'm just honestly curious as to how badly the Democrats have to fail for you before you'll consider voting differently.
  But yes, it is a bummer that I'm stuck with the crummy decisions of 99% of American voters.
- The democratic party IS a private entity. You are welcome to run anyone you want.
  We had a primary: Biden/Kamala made the pick. We have less than 100 days to election day. No one is going to set up staff and offices in that time.
  You are so transparent it's not even funny any more.
  
  You are so transparent it's not even funny any more.
  I don't know where you've been the last 40 years, but none of this is funny to me. I have eight year-old parents borrowing my car right now to work for DoorDash, because they have no other options in Biden's America.
  And what's worse is you're not too far from that yourself and you're voting for it, assuming you're someone who works for a wage.
- So imperfect that we may as well throw the whole thing out then!
- What we have isn't a democracy.
  It's more democratic than it used to be. They used to not even have primaries.
- Will you stop with the nonsense? What your own link says is that they argued in court that they are a non government entity and as such has the power to alter their own charter if they wish. This is technically true and true for the RNC as well because they are not government organizations. But if they altered the charter we would see that it is altered.
  ["The court would have to basically tell the party that it couldn't change [the neutrality rule], even though it's a discretionary rule that it didn't need to adopt to begin with."]
  https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DNC-Charter-Bylaws-03.12.2022.pdf
  The charter guarantees that the delegates "fairly reflect" the will of the voters:
  Section 4. The delegates shall be chosen through processes which: (a) assure all Democratic voters full, timely and equal opportunity to participate and include affirmative action programs toward that end, (b) assure that delegations fairly reflect the division of preferences expressed by those who participate in the Presidential nominating process
  The charter says any proposed changes would have to be released to the national news media 30 days before voting.
  Section 1. This Charter may be amended by a vote of a majority of all of the delegates to the National Convention, provided that no such amendment shall be effective unless and until it is subsequently ratified by a vote of the majority of the entire membership of the Democratic National Committee. This Charter may also be amended by a vote of two-thirds of the entire membership of the Democratic National Committee. At least thirty days written notice shall be given of any National Committee meeting at which action will be taken pursuant to this Section, and any proposed amendment shall be given to all members of the National Committee and shall be released to the national news media.
- Eh... While Hilary and her shills definitely rigged that primary, it took her 8 solid years to get her people into all the positions of power throughout the DNC and state Dem parties so they could shove her down our throats... I don't think her minion infrastructure is still in place like it was then... And I think it was more her controlling the party that made the party undemocratic, than about the party itself actually being fully undemocratic.
  
  it took her 8 solid years to get her people
  She doesn't have any people. There is a complete changeover of delegates every 4 years. The 2020 delegates and the 2024 delegates were Biden's people.
  than about the party itself actually being fully undemocratic.
  Here in America reality matters. The Party Charter completely contradicts your Trumpian level of lies. Nice try Ivan.
  https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DNC-Charter-Bylaws-03.12.2022.pdf
  Section 4. The delegates shall be chosen through processes which: (a) assure all Democratic voters full, timely and equal opportunity to participate and include affirmative action programs toward that end, (b) assure that delegations fairly reflect the division of preferences expressed by those who participate in the Presidential nominating process
  
  I don't know that I agree.
  These DNC insiders, more than most, have had a front-row seat for the very public cognitive decline that Joe Biden has displayed over the last 2-3 years, and they crowned him anyway. If he hadn't had that very public break on national television, things would be very different now. They couldn't stage manage his brain melting.
  I think they want a useful idiot president they can maneuver around the board every bit as much as the Trump's handlers do.
- Some of the responses to your comment are some of the most braindead, conversation killing, stereotypically lib bullshit I've seen in awhile.
  
  True. These are the people who vote for whoever MSNBC tells them to and have zero introspection on their own personal politics.
- Blue maga out here being mad at you lol. According to them any criticism of the dems, no matter how valid, is encouraging people not to vote.
  
  Yup.
  A week ago they were arguing for the presidency of a guy whose brain doesn't work properly, but you and I are the problem, apparently.