Donald Trump vows to lock up political enemies if he returns to White House
Donald Trump vows to lock up political enemies if he returns to White House
Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’
I was wondering if the actual quote was something more weaselly than that but nope.
Beck: "If you become president will you lock people up?"
Trump: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”
Fascists always do the ole ‘he hit me first waah’ gambit. All you can do is ignore it and treat them like the crybabies they are.
Perhaps if someone gives trump a dummy (binky) and rocks him gently we’ll all be able to sleep for a while.
‘It’s okay, you were the bestest president, sleep now, everyone lubs you. Shhh.’
Followed by a brick.
Can the trial get any faster? This is ridiculous...
This dude absolutely cannot get near the white house again.
Vote. And get all your friends, coworkers, and families to vote. That's how we stop this bullshit from happening. And vote at the state and local level too. It actually can make a hell of a difference.
I've voted on stuff that passed by a mere 1,250 votes, and restored bus lines that ran past my house by voting and organizing. It's kind of amazing to see it in action.
Well he campaigned on "lock her up" and despite nearly a dozen investigations and her testifying in front of Congress for 10 hours, guess what happened? Zippity doo daa
Sure, 39 times, yet no evidence was found of wrongdoing other than business as usual when sensitive into was involved iirc. I've never liked her but you gotta give it to her that she's not exactly the evil that people made her out to be, and in contrast to the rest of these terrible fuckers running the country to the ground
You're thinking of Reagan testifying before Congress about Iran Contra.
It worked for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney when they talked about vote manipulation in 2004.
It was also the only way Spiro Agnew got through his corruption hearing in front of Congress while Nixon tried to do the same for Watergate until the taped conversations were released.
It's a time tested conservative play when confronted by a request to tell the truth: don't lie but deny the allegations. Weirdly, I can't find any time a democrat, Hilary or otherwise, repeated "I don't recall" for their entire testimony. It just seems to be a conservative play.
And how do you think Trump has been handling his questioning?
Which is exactly how she beat those 91 felony indictments, right? Oh wait, it's TRUMP that's going to prison. Maybe Hillary will bring him some cookies in the slammer when he becomes someone's butt buddy.
Proof?
His entire campaign in 2016 was 'locking up' Hillary. If he wasn't able to accomplish that in 4 years, what makes him think he can follow through with this promise now that he has numerous enemies on both sides of the aisle?
Nothing short of a full-blown Shutzstaffel will fulfill even a fraction of his current campaign promises.
Playing devil's advocate, the Trump team didn't expect to win and quite frankly had no clue how to pull the levers of power for a large portion of his presidency. If, God forbid, he is reelected that will not be the case. They will know how to play the system much more effectively than they did last time.
If that happens then my grandchildren will be living in nearly the identical series events my grandmother escaped from.
We have learned nothing from our past mistakes.
Furthermore, they've been bleating about the left doing exactly what he's saying despite it not being the case, so his followers and acolyte will 100% back him when he does it for real. Another Big Lie
They learned some of what didn't work. That does not translate to being able to any better ability to lead a nation. Authoritarians always fail on the fatal flaw of believing their own BS, and sycophants reaffirming that delusion. Kings, Popes, Hitler, Putin, Dear Leader, and now Xi all were inflicted with that delusion.
Haven't most abandoned him and bad mouthed him. It will be new incompetents and deplorables. Some will be the same, but they are the background people.
I wonder if seeing the problems some allies now have seeking alternative employment or opportunities will give them pause. Then I remember they are not great critical thinkers.
The more moderate Republicans stayed away and rightly so. I don't think they will be tempted to rejoin. Luckily, he's got much less chance. His base is shrinking, albeit at a much slower rate than it should. People are more aware of what a terrible person and president he will be. Those paying attentiyalready knew.
He's never believed that he'd be able to lock up anyone other than PoC and migrants. His base bought into it. I don't thing this promise is going to hold nearly the same support as last time. Sure, they'll still love him to death and try to elect him but I don't expect that they'll be so sure that he'll make this happen. But it's a re-run and americans are famous for watching garbage television, so who knows.
Can this dude just have a heart attack already
Honest question, but how is Trump still alive? He's in his late seventies, apparently eats McDonalds most days with an ungodly amount of diet coke, and looks like he hasn't exercised since the 80's.
He'll be in his 80's if he gets another term, and given his lifestyle, the stresses of business/politics, and the constant travel, I simply cannot see him continuing. I know Biden is 80, but at least he looks like he's looked at a vegetable or had a brisk walk this year...
These geriatrics need to fucking retire. Gen X basically got shut out of federal politics, and the best-known millennial didn't take federal office until 2019.
Pretty sure a bunch of them live off spite and hatred. My kindest grandparents passed away first, and the meanest one is still somehow kicking.
Evil never dies
I've always said, when he dies, the right wing nutters are going to go fucking BALLiSTIC with conspiracy theories, and De Santis or whoever takes over will fan the flames and accuse Biden or Hillary or whoever the fuck of having him assassinated and shits going to melt down fast.
What else would this douchebag do, really? He had 4 years and the only thing he "accomplished" was tax breaks for the elite.
Of course this tiny petty man will use the power of the office to exact revenge. He's not going to do anything for Americans.
I was looking into this. Obama added roughly 8 trillion dollars to the national debt. Trump added the same amount in half as much time.
While both of these statements are true, Obama did it to get the US out of the recession hole where the previous 8 years of unsecured mortgages and crazy walls street bets from investment banks created endemic risk and failure propagation.
Very different outcomes of the same moneys, specially considering we even turn some profit on sellin the bailed out car companies and once they paid some of these loans.
it's important to understand each of their reasoning:
Obama added to the national debt in order to jumpstart a stalled economy that was deep, DEEEEEEP in the shitter after Bush just noped'out after letting the housing market explode and adding two wars to the bill. Paying all that shit off, PLUS, what was planned to be damned-near-universal-healthcare but became JUST a huge expansion to most people's health benefits (the ACA).
Those are things Obama's admin paid for and we saw actual, tangible returns on. The economy roared back to life. Medical costs and insurance costs went down.
What benefits did we see from Trump's deficit ballooning tax cuts? hmm lemme look here... ah, the report says JACK SHIT.
Unless you're a billionaire.
So yeah, they both added to the national debt but at least most americans received a functioning economy and a chance for healthcare from Obama. Genuinely, Thanks Obama!
They aren't even hiding that they are wanna-be dictators anymore.
And "freedom" loving conservatives just cheer this on.
They "love" America so much, they want to destroy our democracy.
The level of hypocrisy amongst the Right is astonishing.
Most of the followers can't see past "we're going to save America from the evil Democrats". It's not as if Fox News or OAN put the fascist behaviors on display. They genuinely believe Trump when he says the Democrats are persecuting him, rather than that the justice system is prosecuting him for crimes - his only "crime" was trying to save America from those evil commie Democrats, after all. They take all the BS at face value because ... tribalism and fear or something?
The only people in the Republican party who actually understand what's happening are the rich and the powerful. Everyone else, the voters especially, are just useful idiots.
They want freedom from accountability, like King Leopold's congo free state.
Doesn't this completely violate the terms of his release on bail?
Maybe, but who's going to do anything about it?
So they screech about the justice system being weaponized because they're being tried and prosecuted for their crimes, and then turn around and in the same breath just flat out say they'll weaponize the justice system. Classic case of saying the quiet part out loud.
Project, deny, gaslight, then project again. The GOP maga play book
Gaslight Obstruct Project
Most conservatives, as in all of those not in charge, have issues with empathy; specifically imagining the inner world of any other human being. That's not to say that cannot do this very simple human activity, rather they specifically cannot imagine any other human on the planet thinks any differently or has any other motivations than them. Therefore if they would do something in a situation, then everyone in that situation must be trying to do the thing that they would do.
They believe democrats are weaponizing the justice system, because it's what they would do, and thus they assume anyone that failed to do that before now was simply prevented from doing so -- now that they see 'weaponized' justice happening, they think it's fair game for their guys to do it.
MAGA supporters are far beyond caring whether or not you think they have shame.
If you (in the general sense) don't believe that Trump and his cronies committed crimes, then you would likely believe that the justice system is being used to attack him. If it's being used to attack him, then him doing the same to his opponents is equivalent and fair.
Whether or not you believe he committed crimes is dependent on your news sources, ability to fact check and think critically, and your trust in the justice system.
A very significant portion of the population doesn't believe he committed crimes.
They need to ask ab9ut this during these republican debate/PR events. Do you support tump's call tto arrest his political opponents?" Yes or no,
Stop pretending you can debate fascism away.
If by ‘debate’ you mean ‘execute by hanging’ then you can debate fascists away.
Trump doesn't do debates anymore. He doesn't have to. I think he has saturated his market.
Didn't Ramaswamy basically say he would rule through executive order and ignore the courts and congress?
The language of every abuser and totalitarian ever: "Look at what you made me do."
Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.
Pretty sneaky trick really.
Say your enemy is going to do something
Do it
Get told "Hey you're doing X"
Tell them "Projecting much? Everyone knows you're the one who's doing X, I even said so before you accused me of anything!"
Do unto others as your narcissistic brain thinks others are doing on to you.
💀
Apart from the whole dictator thing, they had the presedential power for 4 years and managed to lock up exactly nobody.... Not saying they're not dangerous but why would their base believe them this time, action should really speak louder than words with those simpletons and Trump has been all words.
They didn't lock anybody up, but they DID drain the swamp. And then they put the sludge dredged off the bottom in cabinet positions.
They drained the swamp and refilled it with their own hot piss.
They dumped food pellets into the swamp.
Last time they didn't expect to win and their base wasn't nearly as far down the fascism rabbithole. Now the mask is off, and the GOP knows that magats are more than willing to turn and eat them alive if they try to tap the brakes on the Trump Train. He who rides the tiger can never dismount.
He'll have to find a way to get Congress to approve a bill that eliminates themselves and the judicial branch of government first.
Has nobody on the internet ever read a history book? Who cares what Congress thinks when you have an autocrat jailing his political opponents? It's not relevant anymore.
This. Far too many sympathetic fascist-curious, fascist-adjacent, and outright fascists in the Republican Party (and the police, and the army and the FBI, etc...) that DGAF about institutional norms.
We still have not even gotten to the bottom of their coup attempt - just WHY did they issue stand-down orders for J6? What was Flynn's involvement, as well as his BROTHER'S involvement?
These people thought they were going to get away with it. We already nearly lost our country - these assholes are likely to make sure they don't fail next time.
In order for Donald Trump to become an autocrat, he'd have to dissolve 2 of the 3 branches of government. In order to dissolve the branches of government, he'd need one of the branches of government that he doesn't control to agree to be dissolved. Then the SCOTUS would have to rule on the constitutionality of Congress being eliminated, which, if they're acting ethically (har har) they would immediately halt. He can sign executive orders, but the more EOs a president signs, the more they create tension within the voting population, potentially leading to unrest and if left unchecked, worse.
He is a dictator... I feel like if we get to that point... Congress agreeing to bills is the least of our problems coming
Agreed.
Trump has a very good chance of making it back, and when he does, everything he did up to and including 1/6 will be validated. We will be an overtly fascist country for at least four years, but likely longer.
Step one is to pack congress with republicans. Mostly with total disregard for the law or morality, as that's Trump's modus operandi.
you mean a republican controlled Congress to pack the courts with?
That's why he thinks it's a witch hunt. It's always projection.
I think all the other Republicans use projection. I don't think Trump protects at all and legit believes what he is saying. He thinks everything he did was legal because he believes the presidency is infallible and rules above all else.
You've got it backwards. Trump is the one projecting. The others are using accusation in a mirror.
I mean, I believe he will try.
All that’s missing is him huffing “don’t you know who I am??” While clutching his pearls.
He belongs under a butterfly net.
Trump is just a lying little fucking pussy who will never be president ever again.
If you want him to shut the fuck up, send Stormy Daniels over with a magazine to beat his ass.
He will shut up.
You mean piss on him, by all accounts that's his bag baby... Yeah.
Well you see donnie boy being a democrat isn't a criminal offense but trying to overthrow our government to install yourself as a dictator is.
I wish somebody would push him out of a window already
I would but I'm afraid I cannot without a forklift
Say "Yes absolutely, you giving us those names grants you full immunity." Once he has given those names just send him to jail. He's okay with lying to the public why wouldn't it be fine to lie to him? He has ruined a country when the country needed him.
I see your point but doing that would undermine legal system.
Because Americans are better than that. And the country needs a good example, now more than ever.
That's hot. I see the clowns have blown in for the quadrennial clown show.
Glen beck is still alive?
And brainwashing the elderly. Such a slimeball. He peddles fear based on his sponsors and his "books".
Well yeah. That’s what fascists do. Are we surprised?
Jesus Christ...
Just like the Nazis did. Anymore questions about where Trump and the GOP are heading?
Of course it's horrible and fascistic to declare you're planning to use your power to lock up political opponents, as opposed to letting the justice system play out.
...but if appropriate decision makers can prove actual wrongdoing in a court of law, I have no inherent qualms with Donald Trumps political enemies being prosecuted.
I don't think many people are pro-corruption so that's fair, but Trump is insane. He isn't pursuing justice he wants revenge.
He's a freak of nature.
Putin: Amateur!
I'm sure there's more pressing matters for a President to address
He knows he's fucked
Fascist
There's the witch! Let's hunt him!
Stable genius
That should certainly be entertaining. Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't try it last time. But why the half measures? Why not just have all his political opponents shot?
He…. Did try it last time.
He didn’t have all the yes-men in place so it failed, though,
Don't worry. They plan to fix that with the 2025 project.
If they win again, they plan to never give up power.
Old man yells at cloud, every day
Fuck around and find out, asshole. By definition, I'm targeted. Let that cheese asshole come to my house and try to lock me up for my beliefs and my use of the 1st amendment.
Like Trump himself is gonna walk up to your house and try to arrest you, tough guy. He wouldn't even know your name. You'd just be another poor schmuck on a list getting their ass dragged off to jail by the cops or the feds. The truly scary part is that if it comes to that, no one would be able to help you. By that point, everyone will be too afraid of what is happening and/or completely powerless to do anything but quietly hope they're not next.
Fuck him.
Isn't this what the other wing of the American party are threatening to do with him?
I don’t think the law works that way, but let’s just say: Yes. The people who didn’t try to overthrow the government with the help of hillbillies and the Gravy Seals want to lock him up for trying to overthrow the government with the help of hillbillies and the Gravy Seals.
These people who didn't try to overthrow the government are the ones who rigged the last election though right?
Ahhh Gelen Beek, what a fall from HEY I just found this weird wire on my desk, what is this for, OH! We were discussing Mr. Beck, who is NOT a Muppet, or he is legitimate compared to a Muppet as Alex Jones is compared to a Muppet... shit. They're both ineligible substandard non-muppets.
We have Project 2025 out there literally announcing the end of democracy should a republican president be voted in. Their plan is to enact Schedule F which allows the prez to kick people from the senate and place his own chosen people there and to allow the prez to essentially take over the whole executive branch of the government.
LIKE GODDAMMIT, THERE'S A DICTATORSHIP UNDER CONSTRUCTION! WHY ISN'T THIS EVEN NEWSWORTHY? WHY DOES THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOLELY FOCUS ON THE CLIMATE ASPECT ON PROJECT 2025? IT'S LITERALLY THE PLAN TO END DEMOCRACY! AND OF COURSE LGBTQIA+ PEOPLE!
Thought you were joking but it's holy shit it's real. The heritage foundation even has an article about it.
Yeah I was thinking "what in the tinfoil hat is this guy rambling about"... So I looked it up and holy fuck it is legit the Republicans plan for thier next administration.
Here's a PBS article for anyone that wants to read some info on it:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservatives-aim-to-restructure-u-s-government-and-replace-it-with-trumps-vision
Holy fuck. What. I read through the articles on this and they don't touch on much of what it actually says. Most of it is just quotes. But the guardian has this bit about them dismantling the EPA and, among other things, making it illegal for the EPA to raise emission restrictions.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/27/project-2025-dismantle-us-climate-policy-next-republican-president
At least the end of the world will happen in my lifetime...
Jesus fuck, I’m so glad someone else is panicking about their plans. Not too long ago, I finally realized the whole idea of these shitty laws being enacted in red states is a strategy to chase lefties out so that they control enough states to start a constitutional convention.
We fucking should be panicking, this is insane!!!
Do you realize how many people would have to be in on a conspiracy like that?
Dude/dudette, I just want to say thank you for making us aware of this. It's batshit, and it absolutely does need to be blasted on all channels.
Mainstream media wants it to happen and is owned by the very people who designed it.
As bad as Project 2025 looks I couldn't see anything about kicking out senators, "just" federal employees.
Any sources on the more extreme claims?
You kick out the federalist that do things like, investigate overturning elections, and suddenly the midterms are all republican wins.
From there, you have someone who can get power passed to change things like presidential term limits. Now you have a king or an emperor with a bunch of yes men backing him up in decisions. Eventually, they can institute whatever policies they want and force states, by force, to enact what they want with military power and courts who rule in their favor.
Oh, but there are people in the military who will stand up and do what’s right? Well, they will be branded as wackos and enemies of the state who are speaking ill of the totally “legit” election. So they are put in front of a firing squad and all that’s left are those who already believe in Der Fuhrer.
It’s a complete shit show in the making and fucking frightening what they could do with disinformation and no checks.
You're definitely right. I spent a good minute going through the guide but the most nefarious stuff was gaining complete control of the executive branch. This guide is like a first step for a first term. Well brb guys, going to figure how to take over the government with only the executive branch.
Don't lie or spread misinformation. The language says they would find ways to BYPASS the senate in some circumstances. Still terrible but disinformation will cause people to not believe the legitimate warnings.
You are correct. Page 168 has the "An Aggressive Approach to Senate-Confirmed Leadership Positions" section, laying out how to bypass senate confirmed positions. Still nothing about kicking members of Congress.
That book they’re selling is like a modern “Mein Kampf.” It’s very interesting because I know quite a few moderate conservatives who wouldn’t ever support the policy proposed in this book, but they are still going to vote red because they believe it will fix the economy.