why not use this emotes instead so we dont over use dean too much?

down for whatever, but i'd also like to forward a relentless bullying campaign as an option until we do whatever it is we do

for funsies

As much as it would be nice to have around for the few posts that are relevent to me I'm gonna hae to go with

The admin's response is just very strange. Why does British law matter here? No one expects or wants forum rules to have a formal legal basis. It's something you make and enforce based on what kind of community you want to have, and if they're fine with transphobia because it's legal to be a transphobe, they clearly don't want the kind of community we do and we should defederate.

once again i am asking moderators to allow weighing in without requiring users to use site emojis. Jerbora does not support emojis and I am therefore unable to participate

i refuse to be outflanked by blahaj lmao. have we acquired the nuclear warheads yet? britannia delenda est

Also campaign to refederate with blahaj.

Assuming we defederate, how long will we have between the decision and the defederation itself? Because once we defederate, post edits and deletions won't federate; changes to profile picture, display name, or bio won't federate; and account deletions won't federate, right? Will we ask the Feddit.uk mods to purge Hexbear profiles or?

I'm fine with defedding them because I don't recall ever seeing a non-annoying post from there (mostly just the libs and chauvinists in their Buy European comm and formerly some cryptofash comm/clout farmers that are now banned here.)

Buuuuuuut, I will say we have very little to go on on this topic besides just bad optics and the fact that this one admin ghosted Ada for a couple days, and I think people are jumping to conclusions without really understanding the context (not all of which is even available). And even Ada is saying they will refederate if the policy is clarified to be definitely not allowing transphobia in dogwhistle form.

There is no link to the offending comments because ada doesn't want to trigger "brigading" against anyone, even a transphobe. I don't doubt it exists and wasn't removed promptly by mods but the context would really help make this situation clearer to me (plus the transphobe deserves whatever attention they get for this)

The feddit admins also have clarified that they at least do not intend to allow transphobia (not that this is enough on its own, but it's relevant). What they are "considering" is how to deal with this comm of theirs which has a rule that basically boils down to "bad take = downvote, heinous shit = ban/remove". The mods of that comm basically thought they could get by with just social pressure (downvotes, dunking in replies) for certain kinds of "disappointing" behavior that didn't rise to the level of instant removal.

Now, that's lib shit, and was destined to fail after contact with bad faith bigots, fascists, etc. but they don't seem to put transphobia in that "just disappointing" category, and admins are seemingly reconsidering even allowing that comm rule to stand (in my reading of the posts) in response to the wave of transphobia brought on by the recent court ruling. I believe that is what they are saying, not what everyone here is assuming, that they are considering allowing transphobia because of the court ruling.

I'm of the opinion that if they make the right call (that comm rule has to go, or at least can't apply to bigotry, even in dogwhistle form), we should stay fedded. We gain users from exposure to other instances and people realizing we're cool and not a boogeyman, which is good for the community, so we shouldn't defed at the drop of a hat.

If they don't make the right call, then defed away. I won't be mad either way, they contribute very little to our instance, but its the principle of the thing, wouldn't want to punish them for ultimately growing and making the right call.

edit: I also find it important to note there's only been like 2 or 3 mod actions from hexbear against feddit.uk users in the past 2 weeks. That's a very manageable amount, and the only instance of transphobia specifically appears to have been dealt with by feddit.uk's admins themselves (siteban)

I don't think I've ever interacted with anyone from fedddit. What communities do they have?

Not voting either way here. But I'm further of the opinion that we are still attempting to compromise by having two mutually exclusive goals in one instance - Propagandising libs and having a safe space for our comrades. Achieving both on the same site doesn't really seem possible.