Why isn't anyone helping?

you are absolutely welcome to complain, however i would advise you to complain about actual real issues, rather than "black hole issues" like "The DNC didn't personally target me and now i feel left out" because let's be honest, nobody fucking cares. We have problems to be solving, not shit to be moping over.

So disingenuous. The DNC targeted voters that don't even exist. Their strategy on the economy was to gaslight voters and tell them that nothing would change from the president who had a 38% approval rating. A president who spent 4 years yelling at then that everything was fine in the middle of a housing crisis with record inflation.
The whining about "unfair" criticism is unbelievable. Give me a break. The Democratic leadership is completely out of touch with voters. Kamala never should've let them run her campaign.
Can I complain about the fact that the Biden/Harris admin prioritized continuing a genocide over beating Trump?
- You can, so long as you acknowledge that them taking an anti Israel stance would most likely also lead to Trump due to other democrats feeling alienated, and thus, a Trump administration that will do even more genocide.
  The sad truth just seems to be that not even among democrats that position is a majority. No matter what you voted for, it would most likely not have changed that. The US needs like 20-40 years of progressive change before the majority is ready to take on such positions, and the way to ensure that timeline becomes longer and longer, is by making choices that undercut even small steps there.
  Don't vote for the lesser evil, vote for the path towards that eventual US where your opinion is held by the majority.
  
  vote for the path towards that eventual US where your opinion is held by the majority.
  Been trying that for decades and it hasn't worked.
  The only reason I started voting for the Dems in the first place was because they were anti-war, now they are pro-war so things have moved backwards
- You could have if Trump was going to actually end the genocide instead of explicitly saying he was going to make it even worse.
  
  How bout the fact that the Biden/Harris admin absolutely refused under any circumstances whatsoever to do their number one job of defending the country against domestic threats and a criminal regime? ...and even used notorious opposition party members are their mascots?
  
  I didn't say her campaign was good. But the choice was obvious. Either make things at home better while avoiding escalation around the world, or make things at home substantially worse while also escalating conflicts around the world including in Gaza.
  Harris could've just stood there and said "I'm not Trump" and I would say the exact same thing about the idiots that couldn't bother to vote for her.
- No.
  
  Why not? Shouldn't beating trump have been their top priority?

I think if you voted for Democrats you get to complain, but if you were eligible to vote and didn't have to jump through a ton of hoops to do so you don't get to complain. This could have been avoided.

edit: to be clear, I don't think Democratic leadership really cares that we've got a dictator. But voting for them was harm reduction and too many people couldn't be bothered, whatever the reason.

Why do people pretend that each election is in isolation? That if somehow we had all just voted for Harris even harder that America wasn't headed down this path anyway. This shit has been a plan of American politics since Ronald Reagan.
I'm not an "accelerationist" by any means. But it's just silly to act like this is a problem with voter turnout and only if we had "voted harder" it would all be fine. No. The entire system is fundamentally broken. That's how we got here.
- And the Democratic leadership allowed that to happen. The GOP did all of this in full public view.
  The Democrats aligned themselves with Republicans on economic and labor policy under Clinton, they deregulated the media under Clinton, and they did nothing at all to counter the massive GOP controlled media empire. That's on them.
  The Democrats are weak. Even now they blame everyone but themselves for their political failures. Mainly trans people and progressives. It's always the voters ' fault when they lose.
  They completely ignore the fact that most Trump-voting independents voted for him because of the economy, not because of social issues. They gaslit us about having the "greatest economy in the world" while we're living through a housing crisis, record inflation, and a job market full of shitty work and a completely stagnant white collar sector.
  Fuck the Democrats. We need to take them out like MAGA did the GOP.
  
  Unfortunately I don't think that that's possible. MAGA was able to take over the Republican party because they still fundamentally defend the interest of capital. It's why you still have career Republicans that criticized MAGA as a part of MAGA today.
  The Democrats refuse to move left because leftist are anti capitalist and pro worker. They will never move that way because it is against their class interest and against the class interest of their donors. The most they will do is "allow" some slightly progressive voices like AOC into the party at "tokens". But they will never platform them or allow them to grow.
  The Democrats will gladly lose elections if it prevents anyone left of Reagan from winning.
- I don't claim this election was in isolation but I agree with everything else you've said. We need people to vote for the harm reduction, and we need people to organize because our system of government is trash. Biden being in office gave us four years to organize with the usual amount of opposition instead of the federal government being ordered to go after anyone the fascists don't like; his response to the Gaza camps last year was fucked up but if/when something like that happens again, Trump's gonna have the military kill people.
  I think this was inevitable too, it would have taken the people at the top choosing to fight fascism like the threat it is and I didn't/don't see that happening. I voted for Harris because it gives us breathing room, and if Trump doesn't survive the next four years it would be harder for the fascist movement to retain its power if they didn't have complete control of the government. At the same time I've been involved in activism for the last few years, because we need people to do both.

And over one third of voters didn't vote for anyone. This is talking about them:

https://www.environmentalvoter.org/updates/2024-was-landslidefor-did-not-vote

The people complaining hardest are the ones who called democrats genocidal fascists and refused to vote. This site was filled to the brim with anty Democrat posts at election time, now it’s filled with “why aren’t they doing anything??” Posts, it’s the same people

TBF I voted extra hard for Harris and I'm still wondering why Democrats are voting yes on Trumps cabinet picks and why an 83 year old Bernie Sanders is out drumming up the masses while Hakeem Jefferies tells Jon Stewart that we're all too stupid to know how amazing Democrats are.
ALSO, Democrats don't seem to give a shit about the genocide, including you. So IDK what the fuck you expect me to say. I voted for harm reduction because I knew exactly what Trump was going to do, but that doesn't mean I gave up all of my rights to complain about the shit job that Democrats do.
- You need to understand that American non-voters are unironically fucking stupid. They heard you complaining about Democrats and that just reinforced their decision to not vote for anyone.
  Its simple cause and effect.
  
  Wait, so it's up to me to sweep all of the bullshit under the rug so we can trick people into voting for the lesser evil instead of the Democrats being responsible for giving the people what they want and need?
  Wtf
  
  Yes. Unironically yes. Unless you enjoy what we have today.
  
  I'm not saying that. I'm describing cause and effect.
  You need to ask yourself what is more important, consequences or virtue? Because sometimes you don't get both.
  
  What's more important to me is that we demand better from our elected officials and stop accepting "at least it's not the very worst" as acceptable.
  You can Susan Collins at me all day but you're never going to convince me to go out and cheer on "could be worse, bro". I KNOW it could be worse and that's why I vote against republicans but I'm going to demand the people I vote for DO BETTER.
  
  Our officials mostly lost this election. And might not even have a chance to run again.
  Demanding better can be phrased in a way as to not encourage people to abstain form voting them in.
  It doesn't really matter anymore.
  
  Maybe the Democrats should prove the complainers wrong. The Democratic leadership has had plenty of opportunity to build trust amongst the voters, and decided to ignore them instead. They've spent years letting their voters down, which is why they aren't trusted.
  
  "Why should we prove the complainers and voters wrong? We should stick to the guns that made people sick of us in 2016, 2020, and 2024! Nothing will fundamentally change, and that's final!"
  And they wonder why people are sick of neoliberalism and willing to listen to a lying fascist saying he'd change something, just not for the better of anyone but the 1%.
  
  I agree.
  We still should have prevented Trump from winning by more people voting Democrat.
  
  And then what? Get 4 more years of a genocidal Cop in the white house further normalizing "tough on the border" policies and genocidal foreign policy. And then follow it up with another Republican with even more of a "mandate" to murder immigrants and bomb brown kids? America has been a dictatorship of the capitalist class since it's founding. Voting for president is like voting for a temporary court jester. It doesn't change who runs this country. It only changes which interest of the ruling class are served.
  
  Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can't see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.
  Liberals trying to not side with brown shirts challenge impossible. God, it's amazing how history repeats itself. It's ok. They'll round up all us "Larpers" first. I mean it's the first line of the poem.
  I guess I was LARPing when I went to protest that blocked shipments of weapons in the Seattle docks. Bombs that kill 45% children. I guess I was LARPing when I joined protest for Palestine in Vancouver. I guess I'm LARPing when I organize with the PSL to protest against ICE raids.
  I'm sure you'll say "none of that matters" because resisting fascist with actual material actions is LARPing. But voting, voting in a system that is controlled by the interest of the capitalist class. THAT'S what makes a difference. /s
  Maybe come join the live action role players. At least we go outside more than once every 4 years. At least we prepare our neighborhoods with ways to resist ICE. It sounds like you just wanted to fall asleep for 4 more years while actual activist in this country continue to resist fascism and Imperialism whether it's a blue or red guy in the Whitehouse. Maybe come join the "LARPers" and make actual material impact.
  Or you could just cry on reddit that "Leftist" aren't doing enough. When the only political action you seem to have ever done is cast a vote.
  I mean your comment admitted it. You want to hide your head in the sand. Go ahead. Go hide your head in the sand. I'm sure there's a new Anime you can go watch.
  
  Not just voting, but yes engagement with the electoral system in various ways. As well as volunteer work and organizing.
  But I can say I'm done with that now.
  I noticed my post got nuked. Interesting.
  Edit: Also "siding" with the brown shirts? I merely aim to survive them. If not, oh well at least I'm done dealing with the bullshit of being alive I guess.
  EDIT:
  Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can’t see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.
  A mod deleted it.
  I was being a smart ass because I assumed you and your type are trying to drag me into a violent conflict and I wont engage with that, not after this election result.
  Besides realistically they'll come for both of us and then we'll be dead and not have to worry about this shit anymore. Its laughable that we'd be able to put up a fight: we would be turned into red mist.
  
  It's so odd to be upset at people not voting and then deciding that you would rather just roll over and die than resist anything. Yeah dude, that's how history works, people that are oppressed fight against unbeatable odds. But mocking people that want to fight against genocide is siding with the genocide. "If we can't win I won't even bother" is the exact reason that we can't win. So many dumb Americans like yourself are ok with being completely pacified by neoliberalism, give zero shits about what happens to others, and then get upset at the people actually going outside and helping people.
  Get your bull shit nihilism out of here. Don't shame people that didn't vote and then turn around and say you're just ready to roll over and accept fascism. Go enjoy the toys that pacify you then. Why spend time caring if people voted or not? Go watch Netflix and ignore politics.
  
  What has the Democrats offered in the face of growing inequality and increasing power of corporations?
  
  They probably told people, however media and the people where busy watching the Trump freak show, and listening to all the lies about of how bad the Democrats are.
  
  How naive of you.
  
  That is irrelevant. You don't seem to understand the point I'm making. I'm saying the average American hears critiques and only process them at surface level and forms a black and white evaluation on that basis. This is incredibly fucking stupid.
  And knowing that there are so many American's like this: it is legitimately going to make fewer Americans vote to prevent the fascist from taking power (and did!) because they'll feel like they're aligning with the "bad guys" if you critique Democrats in public without a load of additional context (that some wont even absorb anyway if you provided it).
  
  Why is your criticism so heavily directed at voters? Voting for who you want is a fundamental part of democracy. You are spending so much energy criticizing voters but I haven't seen an ounce of criticism for the actual party leadership. It is literally the job of the party leaders to create a platform that aligns with its voting base. They literally turned their back on their base in order to try to appeal to Trump voters with anti immigration policies. THEY HAD ADS TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THE WALL. Do you think MAYBE that has something to do with why the Democrats failed to get voters out to the polls?
  
  I hate the democratic leadership as well. I can hate two groups at the same time. But I primarily hate them for losing to fascists and not taking the threat seriously. Much like I hate the non-voters for basically the same fucking reason.
  The democrats thought that appealing to moderate republicans and centrists would siphon votes from Trump. This was obviously a stupid idea and I cringed as they did so and hoped that it wouldn't hurt them too bad in the polls. It obviously fucking did.
  The thing is, they more or less admitted so at this point that their strategy was dumb as fuck and that Sanders was right all along.
  There are still people who did not vote who are accelerationists, "apolitical", or think "democrats and republicans are identical" and my spite and hatred of those people is so incredibly intense. I hope they get exactly what they did not vote against. I resent that I've put effort where they choose not to and now expect me to continue fucking fighting after they let the difficulty level explode and likely doom the planet to a scorching hellscape.
  
  Why should people vote for a party that do not even want to resolve the most pressing issues that affect their daily lives?
  
  To prevent fascists from taking power.
  
  To prevent fascists from taking over, we should elect corpos who will constantly push us on a rightward trajectory towards fascism.
  
  Instead, we should sprint full speed into fascism. That'll show the fascists!
  
  And what are the Democrats doing to prevent that? Offer Medicare for all? Increase federal wage? Increase taxes on the rich? Offer free college? Build social housing?
  "People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made."- Franklin Roosevelt
  
  Some of them are.
  
  Some is not enough to win people from fascism.
  
  "The masses" do not think like this. They don't even know what that word means except in a passing negative emotional reaction.
  
  I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can't say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say "Genocide is bad, and we won't support it" and they wouldn't. They are the baddies
  
  I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys
  No I'm not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.
  And TBH, I don't want to help stupid people if they're going to keep dragging me into the mud. I've worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I'm done swimming up a waterfall.