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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 16th February 2025
I randomly remembered crying wolf and decided to make that everybodies problem
Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 16th February 2025
A fried egg cannot code
Prove it. It is more likely it actually can code, but refuses to do so. Perhaps fried eggs have a genetic predisposition to vore?
E: other comment there:
We can't be 100% sure of anything
Are you sure about that?
When I asked Claude if it’s sentient
AAAAAa (it gets even worse when they are gods in the gapping sentience).
My interpretation is that, in current circumstances, cruelty is the principal way to enforce hierarchy. But, I might have to give up on trying to understand US politics because the differences between the two parties are shrinking.
Yes it certainly is the way to enforce the hierarchy (and some just like to do the cruelty and would join a side that allows them to be cruel), and the difference between the parties seems to be more about what the hierarchy is, and a big risk of having one 'the important part of the hierarchy is following the system/rules' that after the system/rules gets corrupted, they will join in. (This explains also why so many organizations are agreeing in advance with Trump/Musks bs). Anyway, I meant this whole post in 'understand your enemies' way, as a lot of things on the right do not make sense if you only look at the cruelty angle (like the popularity of the 'cuck' insult thing which in the past decade really has taken off (the r-slur now coming back is a really worrying development in all this also btw, as people are now 'allowed to be cruel' again)), which is not to dismiss cruelty btw (I'd take special notice of the people who are now using the system to do performative cruelty on people). It just feels incomplete to me. Also there certainly are factions who just want to be cruel, but they would lash out more to all sides (like how 4channers try to trick other 4channers a lot, trolls be trolls). But I'm just thinking out loud here, I have not put this all together in a well reasoned argument, it is more an intuition that they are not totally sadistic nihilists. And hey, 'the cruelty is the point' is good messaging for the leftwing people/people who are open to being convinced to become leftwingers (all these political opinions not being static in people and all), also contrast this message with the 'they are weird' message.
No comments on the article but a "tweet this" button new socialist? Really?
E: One comment, small thing I keep seeing pop up and it is starting to annoy me. The article refers to 'the cruelty is the point' thing a lot. Which yes, that is a point, but I don't think that is the driving force of the right and actually looking at it wrong. I think that for rightwingers the hierarchy is the point, and just that inside this hierarchy you are allowed to do cruelty (as long as it reinforces their hierarchy). I have not worked out how to explain this clearly in a short way (I just deleted several paragraphs here), but I think this explains a lot of problems with the US politics. See also how the mostly rightwing democrats keep upsetting their leftwing base when they pick the 'enforce the hierarchy' option every time somebody lesser speaks out (doesn't mean the dems vs repubs have the same hierarchy, dems like the US system, the (current) repubs the white nationalist patriarchal system. This also explains why the dems keep trying to absorb the repubs who fall out of line (or how the dems deal badly with dems who fall out of line, and why this enrages the 'do less cruelty, fuck the system' left)).
Anyway, im close to getting a 2x2 grid (as astute observers will have noted im leaving out the important 'we must do more cruelty' people) and talking about object vs meta level issues here ;). (For the context deprived, those are r/ssc terms, part of the group of people sneerclub dislikes (and for good reason, while object vs meta could be useful here, it is more about which values are important to people, and object/meta is the wrong frame (my joke does expose that object/meta thinking have an implicit valuation of the meta over the object level in it, so joke not joke! (take your meds people)))).
Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 16th February 2025
For me, I currently believe that the way forward is gathering my Dunbar community of ~150 values-aligned people and dropping out together to live in intentional community
Years ago (sadly I forgot to take a acreenshot, as the posts were silently removed) there was somebody recruiting for something like this on themotte. Something like "you sound like a good match for our homesteading group, check out our blood and soil() voat". Which was a pretty bad sign (wonder how much of that shit was done via dms).
: for the few who do not know, this is one of those undeniable neo-nazi terms.
E: And the universe aligned and reminded me of this tweet
Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 16th February 2025
Standard ML or LLM?
Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 16th February 2025
Okey, what is with these dweebs and never taking their leather jackets off? (Talking about the opening still, have not even started the video)
Now im imagining GPUs being traded like old cars.
slaps GPU This GPU? perfectly fine, second hand yes, but only used to train one model, by an old lady, will run the upcoming monster hunter wilds perfectly fine.
You could question how much the current setting on fire, as in a funny way the nrx creepy nerd Vance has been sidelined by jocky Musk. (I know Thiel helped in getting employees for doge so it doesnt totally fit, but just lol at nrx being benched like this). (Yes, I'm leaning a bit on the jock/creep thing here)
The dark enlightenment is not fascist nor racist is one of those things you can only say if you just started reading up on them, remember the dark enlightenment map from 2013 (on rationalwiki, on the nrx page) contains quite a few open racists/fascists, the worst of all was heartiste, who posted like he was on stormfront (but really overcompensating for being lonely). Also hbd and ethno nationalists.
Also cery easy to go, nah it isnt fascist/racist and then not give definitions.
A long time ago when the whole "should we cctv everything" idea was new and controversial I recall an interview or something with a london police chief, at the time the most cctved city. He admitted that cctv didnt help them stop crime or catch more criminals. He still wanted more cctv though. I think about that every now and then when there is another 'our surveillance tech actually does not work but we want more of it' story
Well here thankfully the fight is over (today it was, tomorrow it will be something else, no wait our fasc doesn't work the weekends, monday it will be) the crisis of not having enough prison cells, which they wanted to fix by letting people with sentences of less than a year out 2 weeks earlier. Which caused a rift between the party 'member'() who wanted to do it and the fuhrer Wilders (whos negative reaction on this was published via twitter of course).
: Technically Wilders party has only one member, Wilders.
Damn you! Still a monitor from 2008, it had a good run.
Lesswrong, launched feb 1, 2009
Thankfully im not American. Checks Dutch news ow fuck our fasc is also infighting
Rest of my electronics have survived so very likely. Guess it got confused as I'm also looking for new glasses and went "dont pick one of those*
Not really my point, but a good one. They dont even have that many kids to spank.
Fun fact, I looked at that article. And my monitor exploded. No joke. I was in sudden darkness, and the mains were turned off. Pc survived thankfully, and I have a secondary monitor but lol wtf. (I need to go to bed).
Is this the family who has a lot of kids and who 'do not believe in the research on corporal punishment' (wonder what that means)? (Rhetorical)
e: lol on them blaming tinder. (Lets make it dumber, the moment that tinder was introduced still falls in within the normal (eyeballed) variance. The moment it breaks is ... gamergate. Gamergate ended the world people).
Yeah very much whoever wins we lose. We should just build a large trebuchet and fire them all into the sun. But sadly the gov does nothing.