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  • More of a notedump than a sneer. I have been saying every now and then that there was research and stuff showing that LLMs require exponentially more effort for linear improvements. This is post by Iris van Rooij (Professor of Computational Cognitive Science) mentions something like that (I said something different, but The intractability proof/Ingenia theorem might be useful to look into): https://bsky.app/profile/irisvanrooij.bsky.social/post/3lpe5uuvlhk2c

  • The 'energy usage by a single chatgpt' thing gets esp dubious when added to the 'bunch of older models under a trenchcoat' stuff. And that the plan is to check the output of a LLM by having a second LLM check it. Sure the individual 3.0 model might only by 3 whatevers, but a real query uses a dozen of them twice. (Being a bit vague with the numbers here as I have no access to any of those).

    E: also not compatible with Altmans story that thanking chatgpt cost millions. Which brings up another issue, a single query is part of a conversation so now the 3 x 12 x 2 gets multiplied even more.

  • Uber but for vitrue signalling ().

    (I joke, because other remarks I want to make will get me in trouble).

    : I know this term is very RW coded, but I don't think it is that bad, esp when you mean it like 'an empty gesture with a very low cost that does nothing except for signal that the person is virtuous.' Not actually doing more than a very small minimum should be part of the definition imho. Stuff like selling stickers you are pro some minority group but only 0.05% of each sale goes to a cause actually helping that group. (Or the rich guys charity which employs half his family/friends, or Mr Beast, or the rightwing debate bro threatening a leftwinger with a fight 'for charity' (this also signals their RW virtue to their RW audience (trollin' and fightin')).

  • Well it is a LLM, it is going to make up some strange claims when you ask it about why it was trained. We know LLM output cannot be trusted and it gives answers that are often not true but convenient for the people asking the questions. I'm a bit disappointed so many people who should know better now trust the output.

    E: I'm sad that this was all on the guiding prompt level and not that they just dumped more white genocide related training data into the model causing it to collapse.

  • Yes, this just makes it worse. 'People are thinking we are a bunch of clowns, and for the record maximum truthseeking that is a lie, we are amateurs and clowns. Anyway we are now going to post some technically true but not relevant to the incident information, and as you brought up the highly debated subject of white genocide in South Africa we are going to give all our white South African employees giftcards.'

  • Building a gilded capitalist megafortress within communist mortar range doesn't seem the wisest thing to do. But sure buy another big statue clearly signalling 'capitalists are horrible and shouldn't be trusted with money'

  • Re the blocking of fake useragents, what people could try is see if there are things older useagents do (or do wrong) which these do not. I heard of some companies doing that. (Long ago I also heard of somebody using that to catch mmo bots in a specific game. There was a packet that if the server send it to a legit client, the client crashed, a bot did not). I'd assume the specifics are treated as secret just because you don't want the scrapers to find out.

  • lol that tweet. But yeah why don't the people who write dystopian fiction about the torment nexus and the people who want to build torment nexusses together? Don't they want to understand why we cannot make life slightly better for the poor tortured kid?

  • Yeah, the image was quite tame and I don't think we should ban all female robots, I do agree with the point that there are too many conventionally attractive bald female coded robots being used as imagery next to robots, but I also don't think we should overreact and remove them all. Not like pivot has not used a lot of other robot images, including Rosey. And part of the problem pivot is talking about is that the pro robot/ai people see robots/ai as doing the roles beneath them (ai as maid/nurse/secretary), so an image like that while being critical also fits. And it also is just part of the American cartoon artstyle the Russian artist is going for. It was just a small badly timed thread on bsky anyway (as it was at the same time as the other guy here), lets not make a big thing out of it.

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