proletarians_must_suffer @ proletarians_must_suffer @lemmy.world

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they need it more?

And why do they take precedence over people close to you?

hobos are humans?

They are, but being human doesn't entitle you to anything.

We would probably be fine if people who wanted to work just kept working

And what if we wouldn’t? Is there a statistics on how many people work just for the sake of work?

But even if not, you could still offer money

Not a lot of money, bc taxes are gonna be hella high to sustain universal income.

because it’s no longer a question of labor or suffer

Yeah, it's a question of labor or just chilling. Who tf is gonna choose labor? Seems like your ideal society's gonna be supported by useful idiots.

Hmm, ok. Let's say you can afford to spend some of your wealth to help others. Why tf should you spend it on fucking hobos? Isn't it more reasonable to help your friends and family?

Ah, so it's not that people should willingly give up their belongings. It's that people with guns don't forcefully seize their belongings from them.

How do you give up a house without loosing too much? Are you a billionaire or something?

In this context, successful - wealthy enough to own a house, or maybe a few.

That problem would quickly be solved if humanity had to.

...and if humanity existed

Yeah sure, it's much more easy to colonize Mars than to do something about the Earth.

Nooo, how could that be. It's the fault of the successful wealthy people who refuse to share their stuff for free with complete strangers.

The scarcity is artificial.

Artificial in a way that people don't want to give their houses for free to a complete strangers?

Yeah, scarcity is created artificially by people who don't want to give their stuff for free to complete strangers.

Justification is needed for action, not inaction. I don't need a reason to do nothing.

REDUSTRIBUUUUTE

Mlyntsi

Why should we?