MooDengist [he/him] @ MooDengist @hexbear.net

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What does being ethnically Russian have to do with the language? Ukraine is perfectly fine with people who were born in Soviet or post-Soviet Russia

Except if you speak Russian then......well not so much now right? But this is also nonsense if again Canada banned French in schools and government institutions it doesn't matter if someone like Céline Dion is beloved when normal people are negatively impacted by their protections being taken away. Do you think that some 50-60 year old ethnically russian person that maybe learned ukrainian as a school kid but since they never used it again or not often enough doesn't really speak ukranian anymore and now has to go to their municipal offices to renew some permits or their passport or whatever and they are shit out of luck because Poroshenko did away with all of that because he was and presumably still is a far right nationalist.

Again while the latter is not outlawed when you pass laws that clearly do away with protections and you not so subtly say 'You know it's ok to be cruel to those people' then people will be cruel, like look at the USA currently under Trump where a lot of people are a lot more comfortable being cruel towards minorities.

But hey let me just quote a part the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages:

Part II of the Charter

Recognition of regional or minority languages as an expression of cultural wealth.

Respect for the geographical area of each regional or minority language.

The need for resolute action to promote such languages.

The facilitation and/or encouragement of the use of such languages, in speech and writing, in public and private life.

The provision of appropriate forms and means for the teaching and study of such languages at all appropriate stages.

The promotion of relevant transnational exchanges.

The prohibition of all forms of unjustified distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference relating to the use of a regional or minority language and intended to discourage or endanger its maintenance or development.

The promotion by states of mutual understanding between all the country's linguistic groups.

Protections of minority groups is again like one of those things most nations and people agree on this isn't radical stuff because if those existing protections are being taken away then it's often a one way trip to ethnic repression which unless drastic measures are taken to put them back in will inevitably lead to mass killings or worse.

WTF Yes.

Around 30% of the Ukrainian population was ethnically Russian before the war, that is 30% of the population whose mother tongue is Russian and that language was forbidden. Like let's not get into the many languages still spoken in Canada but just imagine if they said 'Sorry no more french being used as an official language or in our institutions, and the amount of french speakers in Canada is lower at 22%, if Switzerland said 'fuck you french speakers and italians only swiss german from now on'.

Like I thought this shit was obvious to everyone that ethnic minorities should get protections which include speaking their own languages. What are you some freak that walks around in the US that yells 'SPEAK ENGLISH' at people?

Lancer is ass because their idea of utopia is like nordic socialism with some slavery sprinkled on top

The place I grew up in was right next to a border which is a river, during the summer me and my friends would sometimes swim to the other side to get an ice cream and a coke, now over there I could still speak in my mother tongue, they didn't have a different culture really they were pretty much the same as me and no one was mad that a few youths didn't care much that they crossed some imaginary line.

'Nationalities' and 'cultures' are often even younger than literally '19th century political philosophy' like the German empire didn't exist until 1871 so someone like Karl Marks wasn't German he was Prussian at least according to his nationality, France had to spend centuries to eliminate other languages and there's still pockets of speakers of different languages in it speaking Basque, Occitan and even Dutch, this is such an ignorant take that only a yank could come up with because you live in an actual wasteland and it's not even true for your own country you just never bothered to look further than the little kingdom that is your lawn in suburbia.

I'm saying it's much much later and it wasn't industrial capitalism kicked into high gear that did it this is just you going. "The British woke up one day and found themselves at the helm of an empire." You now saying.... "Well of course I also was saying all those other things."

But here's the kicker you said and I'm going to quote you

Europe was pretty much a backwater until the late 1400s* and England had the unique conditions to develop agrarian capitalism and later industrial capitalism.

*Even at 1500 CE, China and India's estimated domestic production massively outstripped Europe and it wasn't until industrial capitalism kicked into gear that this changed

You are quite literally off by more than 300 years giving people just like wrong timeframes and you haven't adressed the main point which is this:

The usual sterotype of nineteenth-century economic history is that Asia stood still while the Industrial Revolution propelled the West forward. That's only true in a superficial sense for one asia lost it much later, around 1850s, and it was not because one region industrialized while the other didnt but that there was a deliberate attempt at deindustrialization of Asia through policy.

Again you can say all you want about what you meant or intended but that isn't how it's read how it's read is

*Even at 1500 CE, China and India's estimated domestic production massively outstripped Europe and it wasn't until industrial capitalism kicked into gear that this changed

'A short time after 1500 Europe started to do capitalism with manufacturies and then industries while asia stood still.' When again Asia didn't which I pointed out like sorry you weren't saying that in your initial post and are just now retroactively saying that 'Obviously this is what I meant' when you simply didn't write it out and it read exactly like 'The West industrialized while Asia stood still.' which is doubly ironic because it is something I hear libs say so many times why the third world exists, it just happened. When the reality is that the third world was made.

The usual sterotype of nineteenth-century economic history is that Asia stood still while the Industrial Revolution propelled the West forward. That's only true in a superficial sense for one asia lost it much later, around 1850s, and it was not because one region industrialized while the other didnt but that there was a deliberate attempt at deindustrialization of Asia through policy. The looms of India and China weren't defeated by 'the market' but they were forcibly and violently dismantled through wars, invasion, opium and one-way tariffs.

Bairoch

"It is very likely that, in the middle of the eighteenth century, the average standard of living in Europe was a little bit lower than that of the rest of the world. When the sans culottes strormed the Bastille, the largest manufacturing districts in the world were still the Yangzi Delta and Bengal, with Lingan (Modern Guandong and Guangxi) and coastal Madras not far behind. India along produced one-quarter of world manufactures and while its 'pre-capitalist agrarian labour' productivity' was probably less than the Japanese-Chinese level, its commercial capital surpassed that of the chinese."

Philip Huang

"The overall economic development of the Yangzi Delta in the Qing exceeded that of 'early modern' England"

Bin Wong

"Specific conditions associated with european proto-industrialization - expansion of seasonal crafts, shrinking farm size, and good marketing systems - may have been even more widespread in China [and India] than in Europe.

Pomeranz:

"The lower Yangui appear to have produced roughly as much cotton cloth per capita in 1750 as the UK did cotton, wool, linen and silk cloth combined in 1800 - plus an enourmous quantity of silk."

Maddison

"The Chinese GDP in absoulte terms grew faster than that of Europe throughout the eighteenth century, dramatically enlarging its share of world income by 1820 (32.4% vs 26.6% of europe)

Shit even Marx pointed out that the brits liked to hide their incredibly bloody business when it came to capitalism so I don't know how yours is like materialist. If you are going to correct someone try to be correct I guess?

I couldn't since Trump was going to win. It's the sort of deal where I can only perceive the future but be unable to change it.

Guy is talking about Sid Meiers Alpha Centauri a super old game and Civilization: Beyond Earth the spiritual successor, in fact quite a few people have tried to do a spiritual successor to Alpha Centauri and most have failed, because most fail at the good part of Alpha Centauri which is its story about 7 factions/ideologies fighting it out. Beyond Earth couldn't stay serious and so most of the factions leaders are charicatures that don't believe their own ideology same as Pandora. Like they have an Ayn Rand Hypercapitalist guy and in the original game the guy believes his own stuff fully while in later editions he's the 'I'd buy that for a spacebuck' guy.

Edit: Just a few quotes from AC

Life is merely an orderly decay of energy states, and survival requires the continual discovery of new energy to pump into the system. He who controls the sources of energy controls the means of survival. -CEO Nwabudike Morgan "The Centauri Monopoly"

The popular stereotype of the researcher is that of a skeptic and a pessimist. Nothing could be further from the truth! Scientists must be optimists at heart, in order to block out the incessant chorus of those who say "It cannot be done." -Academician Prokhor Zakharov "University Commencement"

You see in this dome the intermingling of native and earth plants. Outside, they are competitors, struggling over the trace elements required for life. Often, one destroys the other. Here, they are tended with care and kept well nourished. They thrive together, and the native fungus does not unleash its terrible defenses. As you can see, competition is unnecessary when resources are plentiful and population growth is controlled. -Lady Deirdre Skye "Planet Dreams"

Pesto is just some big bird white people made popular because they can't deal with Moo Deng and here's the proof:

-Australian Zoo -Wow look how big -Started on tumblr

Also of course mainstream media immediately was all over their great white hope saying stuff like 'Move over Moo Deng here's Pesto'

In conclusion it's a Moo Deng world and you are all just living in it.

You are fake news

Moo Deng is from Thailand but my name is Moo Dengist issa joke ya know.

You are courting death

I don't I'm a pygmy hippo all I love is water, food and to see the fall of the imperialist hegemony

I mean I got the name two days ago and was trying to get some other people to take it but no bites so now it's me