So like, the complete opposite of what we need?

ITEP
not the same article but same people

A tax increase is never fine and Trump is only gonna use it to fund the rich.
However there will be a tax increase if the US ever get’s social security.

Print, laminate and start ticking this up around your local town centre.
- Spread incorrect info? Sounds good

America, the home of enshittifiction!

making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes
That's like 5.3%, could that be real? That would be ridiculously low. I just checked and with that same income I'd be paying 2480 in Germany, or 8.3%, and that's in taxes alone. After social insurances and health insurance the total deduction would be 6450 or 21.5% total.
- I can’t say anything about the validity of the infographic but it says “increase up to” so it’s relative not absolute. So without knowing the current taxation it would be hard to say that tax is low, unless you think the increase is too low. Or am I missing something?
  
  The text from the OP below the infographic was my point of reference, not the graphic itself.
- I'm speaking from the perspective if you're that close to or under the poverty line it does not help society to tax you any amount.
  
  Google says the poverty line in the US is 13800, what am I missing?

America, the home of enshittifiction!

Solution: stop paying taxes.
- I just started doing this for federal, not state, and I'm curious what happens.
  I'll probably owe a little extra fee at EOY, but I'm not worried about that. They'll have to ask me for this money.
  And then I'll probably try and get a payment plan. Just deny and delay as long as I can.
  Because why not?
  
  Because a defunded IRS will track easy fish like yourself and be quicker to fine you.
  
  Presidential!
- Breaking News: trump signs into law 200% sales tax
  
  No sales tax, currently, where I live. So I would hope that'd see some pushback.

These people have to live somewhere. Why is nobody killing them?
- Americans are brainwashed with an ideology of nonviolence
  
  The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.
  And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.
  And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.
  The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.
  The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be
  
  Maybe it’s because we’re not animals. Had half of this country been educated enough to see what was coming- we wouldn’t be in this mess. Violence will only make it worse.

Is this per household?

IMAGINE GIVING A FUCK ABOUT $36K WHEN YOU MAKE NEARLY $1 MILLION / YR!!!
- Imagine not pursuing all your hobbies and instead opressing minorities and waging war all around the world when you make 100 billion a year. First person to say that is elons interest, and that's valid, can stand in line behind him at the guillotine.
  
  If I had that kind of money, you'd never hear about me again. I'd just stay quiet and fund a whole lot of charities and scholarships.

Don't worry. It'll trickle down... eventually... The cash might be a bit red though... /j
- I feel like these chuds don't know the difference between trickle and dangle.
  This is dangle down economics, where the less well off are dependent on voluntary charity from the better off.

It's like Robin Hood, but in reverse...
- Dennis Moore?
- Hobin Rood or Nibor Dooh?
  
  Hood Robbin' was right there
  
  Sey Yes

Why don’t we just charge the homeless infinite tax money to support the government?
- good luck, do you need any pitchforks or are you bringing your own
- Bug report filed.
  
  Closing, will not fix
- I am unironically working on an idea where negative money is a normal feature of an Economy which is needs first. Production based on the requirement to fill those needs. There would be no tax money required to support a government and the negative balance is simply a transparent measurement of the cost of life.
  It would eliminate the concept of purchasing power. And i know that sounds insane on premises. Hence i am still working on it. May require more then a few pages.
  Anyway don't direct skepticism to it yet. Just know that your joke has been a real life math Problem in my head for a few days now.
  
  Some may critique you, but I think it’s important to dream. All the best ideas started as dreams.
  
  Your idea is kind of sound, but it really depends on how you implement the "negative" money.
  You can just choose not to pay off the public debt. That will, effectively, make you print infinite money, and we all know how much corpos like to use and very much abuse inflation. Your idea'd fall quick.
  An alternative is to charge the provider for the service they're providing, or someone with deep pockets who could. This seems much sounder of a wax to go to me. For example, if someone is building a hotel with 500 rooms, say they have to build an additional 30 apartments meant to house a 4-member family. Or, say you keep the asinine US health insurance system, but for every procedure they charge, they have to make one for free. Who they give it to is chosen by the government. This is effectively a form of "negative" taxation. Shame it's basically a revive of the feudal-era "Wheat tax".

what if we all just don't pay taxes
- 200% sales tax
  If you shoplift, pigs shoot you on sight and get a paid vacation.
- I mean, they're planning to gut the IRS so who would be able to come after us 🤷‍♀️
  
  Gutting of the IRS is only going to impact the massive headcount needed to go after tge billionaires. They’ll still have plenty of people for the poor people.
- Way ahead of you.
- This will be in effect next tax season I think. This tax season's policy is already in place

Also you gotta factor in inflation caused by the injection of $4.5 trillion of additional rich guy wealth into the economy. So even a lot of people making over $300k are probably going to be losing out after you factor in inflation caused by others getting more.

I love basically losing a month of my income when we're already barely getting by. Fuck this fucking shithead administration to hell with a rusty whisk.

For 30k, one expected to pay 7500/yr taxes, although usually that was diverted by the employer and not noticed as much (other than the standard "why is my pay 465/wk instead of 576/wk?" question).
This would knock the takehome down by ~$30/wk due to the increased withholding by the employer to cover that 1500.
And when we look at it from our comfy warm homes, it doesn't seem like a lot. But, I can confirm from when I was working 3 jobs to support a university habit, that $30 was fucking crushing. I think that's 2 days a week of food, when every penny is bled out of you already.
Wanna bet the GqP is looking at it like $30 is nothing, like they're just skipping the appetizer at the clubhouse one day a week?
- Don't be silly. 30 is not even on the gop radar. No way they're skipping an appetizer over it

The complete opposite of what we need is a pretty good summary of Donald Trump
- But that's not what the American people want. They don't want to end suffering. They just want to hurt the right people.

The 'Food Web' of this civilization and many others on this planet make absolutely no fucking sense its morbidly hilarious.

And the toothless knuckledraggers who'll be hit the hardest by this shit will thank the Führer for making America great again.
- They will. Because when they lose everything to his policies, he will toss them the scraps of what they once had, and they will see him as their king.

Well, fuck.

Yes, I can image.even more regressive Republican tax cuts. It isn't like this is unusual for them or something unique to Trump. It is just more of the same shifting of the tax and cost burden down the economic ladder.
- Trump v1 did increase the standard deduction for everyone. It's the only good thing he's ever done that I can list off the top of my head.
  
  There is zero chance that he came up with the idea or had anything to do with that increase that happened while he was in office.

America’s largest, consistently profitable corporations saw their effective tax rates fall from an average of 22.0 percent to an average of 12.8 percent after the Trump tax law went into effect in 2018.
The 296 largest and consistently profitable U.S. corporations in this study paid $240 billion less in taxes from 2018 to 2021 than if they had continued to pay the effective rates they’d paid before the Trump tax law.
While profits for the largest, continuously profitable U.S. corporations rose by 44 percent after passage of the Trump tax law, their federal tax bills dropped by 16 percent.
The number of these corporations paying tax rates of less than 10 percent increased from 56 to 95 after the Trump tax law went into effect.
Many of the largest and most well-known corporations in the country — including Walmart, Verizon, Disney, and Meta — had the largest tax reductions after the Trump tax law went into effect.
https://itep.org/corporate-taxes-before-and-after-the-trump-tax-law/

it's a good thing I'm not paying federal taxes this year then.

Needs a source to go with it
- https://itep.org/a-distributional-analysis-of-donald-trumps-tax-plan-2024/
  The makers of the image are listed at the bottom.
  
  Ty

If everyone collectively stopped paying taxes, this problem gets fixed pretty easily. As it is, I have no plans to pay any more into the Dipshit in Chief fund from this moment forward.
America will get my money when America can show that it can be responsible with it.
- This CAN work for a time but eventually they will catch up with you. I know quite a few people that stopped paying, only to get surprised by the IRS years later and owe back taxes, fines and interests. They can make your life hell, put liens on your home, garnish your wages, all kinds of special tortures. If you are serious about this, no joke, I recommend leaving the country and planning on never returning.
  
  But if EVERYONE stopped paying….
- They can add a 200% sales tax.
  What are you gonna do? Grow your own food?

Is this for individuals or households?

Where exactly is the dividing line between tax break and tax increase? Not at all clear from the diagram
- Downvotes and no answer…morons

Eh, it's what the majority of the working class voted for and I'm not going to assume that I know what they need better than they do. The relative effect on my own taxes is fairly small so I'm also not going to object for my own sake.
- 30% of American adults voted for trump. Millions didn’t vote because of “feelings”.
  I don’t feel inspired.
  I feel like my vote doesn’t matter.
  It all feels too exhausting.
  I feel cheated out of a primary.
  It feels like Gaza isn’t being prioritized.
  
  Only the people who voted matter. Those that didn't were fine with whatever outcome, and can't even be assumed they would have voted the way people wanted them to anyways. Americans wanted this or at the very least completely fine with it.
  
  No, people were factually cheated out of a primary, and Gaza factually wasn't being prioritized. And people told the Democrats for over a year that this would happen, and yet they still made their choices. The Democratic party fucked you, not the voters. For anyone who was paying attention, this isn't a surprising outcome.