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Reddit will tighten verification to keep out human-like AI bots
Reddit will tighten verification to keep out human-like AI bots
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Reddit will tighten verification to keep out human-like AI bots | TechCrunch
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http://msgbrd.42web.io/7645238/index.php
No register nor login, anonymity allowed. Messages having no date. The perfect place to publish one's intimate thoughts, dreams, fears, fantasies.
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No TLS..
@themachinestops-
are you afraid a NSA agent reads your wet dreams or your favourite bands list ?
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Unauthorized AI bots
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100%. Reddit loves bots that they control, like the ones that go back and constantly re-post years old top rated, traffic driving content, complete with a replica of the entire comment section posted by hundreds/thousands of bots, because they can use it to do their bidding in pushing agendas and/or driving traffic/engagement.
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Reddit: User content belongs to us. You can't scrape, collect, use, or have bots interact with it... unless you pay us.
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Also reddalso Reddit: since all users have left, most of our traffic now consists of posts from AI bots that we're really really blocking!!
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I don't believe that for 1 millisecond.
Spez won't be able to stop himself from enshitifying reddit in any way he can to appease those VC pump&dump scammers he's spent the last decade ruining reddit for.
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Fuck reddit, It's a shithole.
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Sometimes I have to return for various reasons. God. Some of them have absolutely bled over to the fediverse, but holy HELL are the people and the culture there messed up. I don't know if it's getting worse or I'm healing.
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What's the difference between Reddit and Lemmy culturally? I thought that the people who moved over here held opinions fairly typical of Reddit.
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Personally I feel like I am healing. I haven't signed into reddit since they bent the knee to musk. I have noticed that I have become less toxic. I still go off half cocked like an idiot but I have been more tactful about it. I hope to keep working on it because I honestly never noticed until I had been away from reddit for a few weeks.
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I always get 'Blocked by Network security' for trying to access Reddit from a VPN
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Yeah they've blocked VPNs because they want to be able to know exactly who their users are. They don't want anonymous anymore.
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If only they accepted the reality of massive residential proxy networks..
A shitton of apps not only sell your data but also use your device as a tunnel.
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the users that posts links,a re using rotating mobile proxies, plus other sophisticated methods to hide thier browsers.
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No they won't lol
If they didn't do it already, it's not gonna happen now. This is lip service to the shareholders
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They want more users to make accounts. Blocking nsfw content to non-users was a start but now they can make a bigger push.
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Nsfw Still works in old.reddit as a non user.
Or so a friend tells me
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It's in their best interest to suppress non-human conversations. What are you talking about?
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Is it? Reddit has been full of bots for years.
And if the r/CMV thing didn't make it apparently, the recent wave of them weren't "caught in the act" and only became a "problem" when the researchers announced their shitty experiment.
If realistic chat bots can fool the masses, why on earth would reddit get rid of them? It helps their metrics. "Look at how active our site is! Buy stock!"
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No it isn't and they have openly talked about doing this practice back in the early days of reddit to make the site appear more active than it really was. Nothing has changed.
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Where on Earth have you gotten that bizarre idea? It is in their interest to promote engagement, human or not, by any means necessary.
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Only their own bots are allowed.
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No they wont. Just those who haven't paid them first.
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What, like Xitter did?
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Like "closing the gate after the sheep already escaped", but in reverse?
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like: Closed the gate after the wolf got in?
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Closing the gate after the wolves have got in eaten all the sheep, had a nice rest, and then left. And then about 30 years past.
Sure maybe small trees are now growing in the now ungrazed pasture, but I guess late is better than never.
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step one: ban everyone who writes an emdash
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I like em dashes. I learned the alt code for en and em dashes just so I could use them easily on a computer. There is a difference between a hypen and an en dash, and a double-hyphen is but a simulacrum of the em dash!
- Hyphen is just for double-barrelled words
- An en dash is useful – at least sometimes – for inserting side thoughts
- ah boy I sure hope an em dash doesn't interrupt m—
But let's be real, I type kinda formally, like an AI, sooo
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I love em dashes. Fuck AI.
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What and destroy 90% of their traffic?!?
“That’s a bold move, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ’em.”
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AI bots.
Not the rest of them.
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Yeah the manual bots are ok (humans?) I guess
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Yeah it's definitely the bots and not the fashy admins that drove me away from reddit.
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I mean the bots don't help. The sheer number of obviously AI subreddits and response farms is crazy. There's like 6 prominent "Am I the Assholes", a bunch of text message "screenshot" subreddits which have always been easy to fake, and a bunch of "explain the joke" ones too. I stop reading halfway through most text posts and comments because it's obviously AI
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Por que, no los dos?
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I mean it's definitely both, but the fashy admins were the last straw.
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Everyone has their own reasons. If you disagree with their management, then you should celebrate other people choosing to leave, even if for different reasons than your own.
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I'm not complaining about people leaving, just saying the bots are not the biggest problem.
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*reddit will tag their own chatgpt bots to prevent them from being banned, and then through false positives will ban the last of the real users from the site.
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i bet they also ignore half of the propaganda bots to look fair in thier moderations. the only signicant bannings we see is actual users, and the low hanging fruits, of and people posting links to thier businesses.
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The bots post better comments than most of their users.
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Today one said they brought shame to their family line by having a giant tattoo on their wrist of an ex (who was actually dead). Boyfriend just now noticed said tattoo after a year. Picture looked like every letter of the tattoo was in a random healing stage and they were standing on a tire with a random toe censored.
It’s bad over there.
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Someone could create a forum for bots to discuss with each other. Call it Redbit. The bot could generate every possible questuon to ask and even steal questions from quora, reddit, Xitter, and every other forum, various AI bots can then reply to those questions with the best replies.
It can help put reddit out of business. Since most people are just looking for answers when they search google and get a reddit hit, most people don't even bother to sign for reddit and etc.
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This has nothing to do with bots. Verification comes with more info provided on your part, which they will sell.
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And they'll be able to hand over to the government on demand when you say something the government doesn't like. They started all this during the previous administration, when the government were pressuring all social media companies to push their agenda and censor things they didn't like. X changed course, Facebook has now changed course, but Reddit is staying the course and will do whatever the government of the day tells them to.
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I got ecchi dolls (China knockoff, cheaper but decent) from a site called OtakuCrate once, they've emailed me to confirm that the R18 loot is back under new US regulations, which means future orders just require your legal identification. I live in Europe, so there's no damn way I'm conforming to any privacy-invasive law, and I'm also not stupid.
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It can be both. Reddit has a history of fabricating conversations. The way they sell advertising implies a certain level of engagement from their user base which can lead to bots pushing products in the form of reviews or by mention.
I think it's worth noting that Reddit, at one time, did have third party bot protection; however, it only protected their advertising. I can only imagine what the rest of their traffic looks like, but I would not be surprised if they were using bots of their own.
Like you said, they can make some money selling your information but they can also control the narrative how they choose.
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what about their own Ai bots lmao?
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Oh no! Anyway
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Lol, they're the ones using the bots to fake engagement in the first place.
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I Think Thies weil continue to work. Only foreign bots are exkulpiert.
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Hah, yeah. One could say it's a form of digital nepotism.
"Only our bots get go work here!"
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Too little, too late
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It's already happening, I see I opened accounts but none of my comment gets posted with accounts I don't know why , this is with new accounts
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sounds like you got shadowbanned, you can check your username, by not logging in and click your profile.
it usually says "cannot find profile" on a browser, which means shadowbanned.
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That's a shadowban
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Same happened to me, all my old accounts which I had for years got banned for no reason and new accounts gets banned as soon as I comment.
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Your IP address/device fingerprint has been blacklisted. They do daily (possibly a few times throughout the day) automated bans of any accounts that visit the site from IPs of users they have banned. Commenting automatically triggers an IP check so you're banned instantly, but if you didn't even comment your account would be banned by the end of the day.
I tested this after I wiped and deleted my accounts back when they made all the API changes. They undeleted my account, undeleted all of my posts, and then permanently banned my account. I then signed in to one of my alt accounts that has never commented to see if they had banned it, and they hadn't - until a few hours later when it was permanently banned for "ban evasion". I created a new account to see what would happen - same thing. I then turned on the built in VPN on a browser and set it to always be active when on reddits domain and made a new account, and that account to this day is still not banned.
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"Drink verification can to continue"
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They’re doing this to better identify you
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Don’t think they’re doing this out of the goodness of the hearts, they’re just trying to avoid the “shit in, shit out” affect of their data sample.
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Too late ~
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Suuuurrrre they will...
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Bots are all “f spez, I’m switching to lemmy!” Ever relatable, they are!
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