The abs that shook the pillars of civilization

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- Yup

The """alpha male's""" masculinity is so fragile, they threw a conniption when seeing a picture of a fit woman.
- I have a personal hypothesis that self-proclaimed alpha [males] may feel the same gender dysphoria that trans folk do, only it is the sensation that they present less masculine than they actually do, so in their effort to attaining a little bit of machismo they go way overboard.
  It's similar I think to the way Donald Trump can be President of the United States, and still feel fragile and unworthy.
  
  Lol, so if I'm hearing you right, people who yap endlessly about "being alpha" are "beta to alpha trans"?
  
  That's toxic masculinity in a nutshell. See also the author of The Game describing sex in the most mechanical terms - coming reeeal close to acknowledging he does not actually desire women sexually, he's just conditioned to see them as a goal.
  
  This is an understatement. History tells many tales that have passed through the ages that men in this instance have still not learned.
  
  I'm pretty sure it's dysmorphia rather than dysphoria. Dysphoria is rooted in an accurate picture of yourself and dysmorphia in an inaccurate one. If a guy starts going to the gym because the idea of not being able to bridal carry his girlfriend makes him feel unmanly, I'd agree that's some flavor of gender dysphoria. On the other hand, someone like the liver king thinking he still doesn't have enough muscle is definitely body dysmorphia.
  But I'd agree that (similar to dysphoria) the so-called alphas often have dysmorphia of more than just the body - they worry they come across unmanly in all ways of their presentation, regardless of how much "masculine energy" they're already putting out.
  
  Yeah this is a favorite pet theory of mine as well, partly because I like imagining guys like Andrew Tate protesting being labeled “trans alpha” or whatever, but also because it’s just a fact that many cis people experience a form of gender dysphoria and commonly seek hormone therapy for it at early ages.
  I’ve found that comparison usually clicks with uninitiated cis people immediately, even when they’ve only heard othering and alarmist narratives up to that point.

What part of this great picture got them scared?
- I thought it was a little unsettling that their legs appear to be on backwards.
- I guess, because its very hard for biological women to get abs like that. The muscles are just different. Not impossible, but way, way harder then for men and therefore quite rare.
  And we all know, its very scary for bigots to even look at trans people. They might have to wash their eyes with soap now.
  
  just wanna add that it is easier to get them with testosterone. i think it makes sense to make that distinction here since there are literal cis women body builder who take it as performance enhancing drugs.
  
  I think it's less that the muscles are different, and more about body fat percentage and maybe distribution. You could have the strongest core in the world, but if there's a layer of fat on top of your abs, they won't have this visible definition.
  Also... Really rare to have boobs that big AND such low body fat, but all sorts of women get implants.
  
  Could you clarify for a sec what you actually mean by "biological women"?
  
  I thought it was just regular old sexism; woman getting stronk has the men with fragile egos feeling scared.
  
  What do you mean by biological women?
  
  In future I'd advise using the term cis woman instead of biological woman because biological woman has a history of being used as a transphobic term by TERFs to delegitimise trans people, especially in the UK.
- sweaty 6 pack made their pants tight, and monkey brain confused as only men should have 6 pack abs...ergo they may have caught the gay

If the West falling means we get more fit women with abs, good. Let it all crash down.
- I don't find abs in women attractive. But if women want to have them, and others want to admire them, who am I to stop them?
  
  If more people had this attitude towards harmless things that don't suit their tastes we'd live in a far less hostile world. Thanks for being a decent person!
  
  I find abs in women damn attractive. Actually surprised me as I didn't used to. I think something in me changed on my own journey which has made me respect and admire the qualities that lead to their abs more than it being a superficial "that looks good".

Fellas, is it gay to think women are hot?

drooling, sweating, crying, moaning, throwing up, flying, levitating, spinning, turning inside out, achieving enlightenment, ...

Why do podcasters hate attractive women
- Because the woman makes an effort to take care of herself and it makes them feel shitty about being lazy.
- Some guys feel emasculated when they can't make a beautiful woman like them. So the only way they can feel like they've taken some power back is to belittle and talk down beautiful women.
- because they won't touch their peepee
  
  Because they can choose whose peepee, if any, that they want to touch. And yes, they choose not to touch said podcaster.
- Because they are afraid she'd absolutely dominate them? Freaking AlPHa MalEs.
- gender

Yup, reinforces my love for women.

the west IS indeed falling, just not for the reasons the chud podcaster types think it is.
the irony of it is that its probably more to do with the aforementioned podcasters than with [shuffles cards] women who go to the gym.
- Women who go to the gym will save us from the system collapse with their mommy muscles 😤
- I think the podcasts are a more a symptom of people attempting to rationalize how real issues are the fault of anything but the systems they are personally invested in.

If this is the fall, I am ready for the fall.
- Falling in love, maybe.
  
  Love both the usernames here

What is so crazy is that a lot of these folks look up to Sparta because of its dedication to physical conditioning. But of the people that traveled to Sparta we know that they wrote of watching the women of Sparta exercise because they were known to be strong, fast, and beautiful because of their exercise and physical conditioning was expected of them even as slave owning elites.
This person should be lauded for their dedication to conditioning and feared for their ability to Kegel a steel girder asunder. And they probably don't even own one slave outright so it is even that more amazing.
- Spartan men where also known to be regularly fucking each other. It was seen as a way of bonding between men when training.
  
  You fight harder for the man next to you when he gives good dick.

i'm a gay man but that's hot as fuck
- I'm a bi/pan woman and yes, that is an objective truth.
- Because it looks manly.
  It's like when they show a man with perfectly round manboobs. Something primal in me would say "I'd motorboard those!"
  
  Why are muscles manly?

She has an absolutely statue-esque physique. These chuds are so fragile. This intimidates them.

I miss being fit. Muscle mommies are underrated. All the endorphins. First thing I'm going to do off a grad student salary is get a personal trainer. Fitness makes me feel normal and happy. I lost my six pack here, foo.
- If I may ask, what stopped you? Because being fit isn't only for the rich....you can do bodyweight and still be damn fit!
  
  I tripped on stairs and my foot got stuck on carpet staples during apt rennovations. They can't find what happened to the soft tissue yet, it is still purple on the side. I can walk and even hike a bit but I really feel it later. I didnt break anything, my foot was stronger than most from sports, so I basically got really bad turf toe plus something is damaged mechanically. It throws off my balance a bit too, otherwise I'd be doing yoga. They thought it would heal but it's not... It's been a few years of waiting and trying different things and tests; but I have a specialist seeing me in a few months if they don't reschedule again (the healthcare here is great, just not enough workers)...
  That being said I hate, hate, hate the gym, it feels too voyeuristic and crowded. I'd rather be outside doing something fun. I know I'll go if I'm paying for a trainer. If all else fails I'll get a little Pelican kayak or find a heated pool in the next place I live and do my thing when I'm not worried about money haha.
  I will say that feeling your muscles atrophy is fucking wild. Fortunately my partner is a trained masseuse that has worked on a lot of athletes!! :)
  
  Dood, Have you done grad school for the sciences? Man, my last 2 years had me hunched over researching/working for 60hr a week minimum, then the study and class time.
- Muscle mommies are underrated.
  Oh I don't know about that. We worship you.

More muscle mommies please.
Edit: realized this is a lgbtq group… I’m a straight dude and love this pic.

Increased demographic of physically fit people *
‘Servies: REEEEE

Beautiful end of western civilisation. Being a doomer finally paid off.
My excitement for the fall of western civilisation cannot be overstated
- Also looking forward to the fall of Eastern Civilization... And Central Civilization...
  
  finland and argentina eating popcorn as they watch the world burn

The west has fallen, my forefathers died fighting against outie belly buttons.
- Hey, it's just an innie with nowhere left to go.

Is homosexuality still politics? Because I’m definitely feeling a lot of that at the moment
- Username checks out
- Well, to be fair, everything is politics. But yes, the ownership class is looking to displace responsibility for mass scarcity and precarity away from them and are choosing the usual suspects of marginalized social groups. LGBT+ and uppity women are high up on the list along with immigrants.

Would . If I weren't ace I guess .
- I'm not sure what I'd do but I would do it

Would.

Penis or not. That's a rockin bod. End of discussion
- Wait she has a penis? 11/10 then
- I'm pansexual, penis doesn't matter to me at all.

The most erotic part of a woman is the abbies

Eh the west has always dealt with male fragility. I thought this article was interesting https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/what-historical-ideals-womens-shapes-teach-us-about-womens-self-perception-and-body-decisions-today/2019-10
- So awful? That poor woman really did have a voice in her ear calling her fat!

That's hot

The west has fallen, long live the west

I sense alot of fragile male egos

So I scanned bolverk15's Twitter and could not locate that original photo and find the actual ab model for research purposes. Someone please help.
- Actually, that took two seconds with reverse image search.
  https://x.com/AphroditeFit20/status/1556194761048031233
  Smh
  
  I'm not convinced that AphroditeFit20 is the person in the photo. They post a lot of different fit women on their timeline.
- Could be a selfie?

- B-but, how else do you grab her belly and pretend like you're blowing up the world's cutest balloon?? 😩😩😩
  
  You see how tight those abs are? It'd be like blowing into a milk carton.

Two things here:
Unrealistic body standards are a known issue. Yes, fit women exist, but I'm betting there aren't plus-sized mannequins in yoga pants next to this one. But there absolutely should because, hey, exercise is good for everyone.
The "west has fallen" angle cracks me up. It's so full of dissonance, I can't even.
Edit: the weird lighting had me thinking that was a plastic mannequin and not a real person. That's just incredible.
- That's not a mannequin. It's just a lady showing off her awesome abs.
  
  In that case, that's super impressive. But that skin doesn't look right. Is it the lighting?
- Unrealistic expectations are absolutely a thing and we should promote normal physiques.
  Also, being fat is absolutely a thing and we should promote not being fat.
  Caveat: some people say "plus size" to mean healthy weight. Some people say "plus size" to mean fat/overweight. Being overweight is a significant health risk, and I say this as someone who is overweight and trying to fix it.

i wanted to make a chain by posting on raddle 😭