German football coach condemns 'racist' TV survey that asked participants if they wanted to see more white players on the national football team
German football coach condemns 'racist' TV survey that asked participants if they wanted to see more white players on the national football team
Julian Nagelsmann condemned the poll, which asked if people wanted more white players on the German team.
The poll by the ARD public broadcaster said 21% of respondents agreed with the proposition.
"It is racist. I feel we need to wake up. Many people in Europe had to flee.. searching for a safe country," Nagelsmann said on Sunday.
The 36-year-old said he agreed with Germany midfielder Joshua Kimmich, who described the questionnaire as "racist" a day earlier.
“Josh [Kimmich] responded really well, with a very clear and thought-out statement,” Nagelsmann said at a briefing at his team's training base.
“I see this in exactly the same way. This question is insane.”
“There are people in Europe who’ve had to flee because of war, economic factors, environmental disasters, people who simply want to be taken in," he went on.
"We have to ask what are we doing at the moment? We in Germany are doing very, very well, and when we say something like that, I think it’s crazy how we turn a blind eye and simply block out such things."
ARD - the German public broadcaster - said it had commissioned the survey to have measurable data, after a reporter working on a documentary on football and diversity was repeatedly asked about the make-up of the national team.
The poll was conducted among 1,304 randomly selected respondents.
Karl Valks, sports director with the ARD station who commissioned the poll, said the company was "dismayed that the results are what they are, but they are also an expression of the social situation in Germany today".
"Sport plays an important role in our society, the national team is a strong example of integration," German media cited him as saying.
The current national squad has a number of players with mixed heritage, including captain Ilkay Gündogan and winger Leroy Sané.
Germany is hosting the Euro 2024 tournament later this month, and Nagelsmann said his team would be playing "for everyone in the country". They will kick-off the competition with a clash against Scotland at Munich's Allianz Arena on 14 June.
The controversy comes just weeks after the team's kit manufacturer, Adidas, was forced to ban fans from buying German football kits customised with the number 44, after media raised their resemblance to the symbol used by World War Two-era Nazi SS units.
The SS was responsible for many of the crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis. Members of the SS ranged from Gestapo agents to concentration camp guards. SS duties included administering death camps where millions of Jews and others were put to death.
Not a football fan, but good answer to a stupid racist question. Journalism needs to reflect on how their reporting is enabling the far right and legitimising racist talking points in society. At least here in Germany the media plays a substantial role in the rise of the AFD and normalising right wing policies.
The main point is that the starting question is so stupid that it is an offence to the stupid questions.
In a national football team you should get the best of the best, whatever color the skin is. You want to win, not to parade.Journalism needs to reflect on how their reporting is enabling the far right and legitimising racist talking points in society. At least here in Germany the media plays a substantial role in the rise of the AFD and normalising right wing policies.
I think that the rise of AFD (and the Right in general) is tied more to the failures of the Left than to the journalism. If people have (or think to have) a problem they will vote for the party that will promise to solve it, not for the people who say them that they are too ignorant to understand that they have not a problem.
I don’t agree with your last paragraph. We face many crises today and to solve them is challenging our way of life. The political (far)right answers with simple, populist sentiments that will not solve anything: Just drive your car, just eat your meat, we need growth — look: migrants!
The left tries to explain very complex concepts, but all people hear is „you have to change your way of living“.
At least here in Germany the media plays a substantial role in the rise of the AFD and normalising right wing policies.
You are suggesting incompetence where there is malicious intent. The capital in this country owns the mass media, and as they did in the past, they would rather sacrifice democracy than their wealth and power. Our conservatives are right wingers when push comes to shove, believe me.
I don't think a survey question can be racist. An answer can, and I'm not sure that not knowing the answer is better than knowing it.
Edit: No wrongthink on feddit.de, got it.
I get what you are saying but I disagree. Such a question comes with an implication that whoever posed the question thinks both answers are valid, unless the context implies otherwise.
Edit: No wrongthink on feddit.de, got it.
Oh come on now, people disliking your opinion is not the same thing as you being silenced, get over yourself.
Asking people if something is "white enough" is extremely racist, reproduces stereotypes and normalizes this bullshit. Nationality isn't a matter of skin color.
Sorry to see you downvoted, but hear me out. If I create a survey, for example, asking: "do we need to carry out a ethnic cleaning on a certain ethnicity of this country?" It implies that:
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The survey creator and people who approve of it think that there is a substantial chunk of people who will say yes.
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That the idea is a valid one and if you don't agree with it, it is valid for others to think that it is reasonable.
The idea of killing/kicking-out of people based on their race, is a part of what defines racism. The survey which validates such an idea, is racist.
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A question can be wrong (Have you stopped beating your wife?). Especially in a questionnaire, you need to be careful when formulating a question, so to not skew the results. A question can also be 'wrong' when the outcome is useless no matter what results you get (in scientific research you actually try to achieve the exact opposite, so that even if a hypothesis is invalidated, you'd gain some useful knowledge)
If you are posting in good faith, please look up push polling.
The right questions can be used to influence public opinion.
It can be. Great question from German media would have been if they asked the audience something to reflect on the treatment of Mesut Oezil in the past for example. It was a complete racist shitshow at that time and nobody was bothered.
That Adidas part made me curious …
Well in adidas web store you can choose a player whose number includes #4 and it does not seem to be this typeface.
That's because they changed the 4-design.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
German head coach Julian Nagelsmann has condemned as "racist" a recent survey that asked participants if they wanted to see more white players on the national football team.
Many people in Europe had to flee.. searching for a safe country," Nagelsmann said on Sunday.The 36-year-old said he agreed with Germany midfielder Joshua Kimmich, who described the questionnaire as "racist" a day earlier.
"ARD - the German public broadcaster - said it had commissioned the survey to have measurable data, after a reporter working on a documentary on football and diversity was repeatedly asked about the make-up of the national team.
"Sport plays an important role in our society, the national team is a strong example of integration," German media cited him as saying.
The current national squad has a number of players with mixed heritage, including captain Ilkay Gündogan and winger Leroy Sané.
The controversy comes just weeks after the team's kit manufacturer, Adidas, was forced to ban fans from buying German football kits customised with the number 44, after media raised their resemblance to the symbol used by World War Two-era Nazi SS units.The SS was responsible for many of the crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis.
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if only the poll was a plant by the German cia/fbi equivalent to root out racists and put them on a watch list. that's 274 people on a do not fly list or something.
it wasn't, isn't and won't be. But if only...
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So when germans want to have more white people again on the football team it is racist.
When black people want to have more blacks on the german football team it is ok.
Ok, I get it.
No, you don't.
Apples and oranges. More like apples and steel nails.
Oh, yes, please, tell me more about how you feel underrepresented in football/sports.
<sarcasm>Want to talk about marathons or any long distance run ? </sarcasm>
Please keep in mind that all (neo)colonial powers have a history that is intertwined with racism. Germany is no exception.
Racism in German history is inextricably linked to the Herero and Namaqua genocide in colonial times. Racism reached its peak during the Nazi regime which eventually led to a program of systematic state-sponsored murder known as The Holocaust. According to reports by the European Commission, milder forms of racism are still present in parts of German society. Currently the racism has been mainly directed towards Asian and African countries[1] by both the state and through the citizens which includes being impolite and trying to interfere in internal matters of African countries by the diplomats...
One is a repressed minority, the other is a repressive (in some parts) majority.